Sorry but Simmonds has a way to go before he gets to Hartnell's level. I think you're under appreciating what he does out there.
- JoeRussomanno

not under appreciating Harts at all. I'm simply referring to one specific aspect of their games.

The Preds still have a ton of cap room. They could add pieces and keep Weber happy with a fat contract
- Jsaquella

But they won't. They're Nashville!

They could have signed them both long term last year.

I am sure one of the stipulations Parise had was that Koivu remained with the team. Last thing Parise wants is for them to trade away his centerman.
- Flyers2821

I thought the 5th round pick at the end made it an obvious joke and to not be taken seriously. Should have added the good 'ol 9th rounder instead

Flyers, Pitt, Chicago, Vancouver, NYR, etc etc all are going to want Doan

come on Ek
- Marc D

plus, west coast guys often stay out there if they have a choice

not under appreciating Harts at all. I'm simply referring to one specif aspect of their games.
- FlyerGuy

What exactly is that? Fighting? Hitting? Scoring goals from the crease?

So does that make kovy the devils captain lol

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin

Now @nhlflyers will give Matt Caryle over 5 mill a year. Not sure that's good money spent. Flyers don't like getting left out. Nash or ryan

Kevin Allen ‏@kausatoday

Poile didn't say this, but Matt Carle is the team's focus now because he plays a similar style to Suter.
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keeping Jake is their best move

the only doubts I have is they may be struggling with his agent as to what he is worth long term

the flyers hold all the cards though as he is rfa

the only way I would deal him is if they really believe they can't get a long term deal done at some point and have to maximize his value through a trade

still I want to keep him, I love his attitude and size and skill set, and they are really short on top wingers right now
- Marc D

I don't want them to trade either player. If they can't add what they need through draft of Free agency then stand pat. Simmonds and Jake are both top six forwards. Having a deep balanced team is more important to me than making a monster trade to add some name that hasn't seen a playoff game in multiple years or ever.

So does that make kovy the devils captain lol
- griouxmvp2012

Yeah, he'll woo Malkin if he makes it to Free Agency

HAPPY 4th OF JULY!!!!

Great news, as we didn't overpay for someone with a ridicuous contract AND even though Parise isnt in a Flyers sweater I can now go buy a Parise Team USA jersey with a clean conscious!!!

I don't want them to trade either player. If they can't add what they need through draft of Free agency then stand pat. Simmonds and Jake are both top six forwards. Having a deep balanced team is more important to me than making a monster trade to add some name that hasn't seen a playoff game in multiple years or ever.
- JoeRussomanno

I didn't know we were talking about Simmonds

I would hate losing him too
he is a perfect 3rd liner for the Flyers, and maybe can step up to 2nd line in a pinch
Also good PP guy

What exactly is that? Fighting? Hitting? Scoring goals from the crease?
- JoeRussomanno

Fighting? yeah, no question.


Hitting? hmm, I'd give the edge to Simmonds on overall physical play. Scoring goals those dirty goals? Harts is a monster at that.

It's not putting Hartnell down to say that Simmonds is a tougher hombre in certain areas.

Thankfully, that soap opera is finally over. Now let's get down to some real business.

Homer should get Carle on the horn immediately..."Matt, I've got a five year, 26 mil contract on my desk. Give me your answer before I finish my burger or it's in the can".
- 77rams

Clearly, you work in sales.

Fighting? yeah, no question.


Hitting? hmm, I'd give the edge to Simmonds on overall physical play. Scoring goals those dirty goals? Harts is a monster at that.

It's not putting Hartnell down to say that Simmonds is a tougher hombre in certain areas.
- FlyerGuy

Hartnell out hit him by over 40 hits. as for fighting I think we can agree it's hardly relevant today and Hartnell has done his share then some, if anything that's probably the only category I could see Simmonds surpassing him, but so what?

Forget Carle. Resign the RFAs and bolster the 4th line.

Hartnell out hit him by over 40 hits. as for fighting I think we can agree it's hardly relevant today and Hartnell has done his share then some, if anything that's probably the only category I could see Simmonds surpassing him, but so what?
- JoeRussomanno

I'm not sure how this evolved into a Simmonds vs Hartnell comparison. My original point was that I think what Simmonds brings to this team is more valuable than what Jake brings. At least at this point, considering Jake's trouble finishing.

Thank the lord, santa clause, buddah, baby jesus and joe pesci they both signed in Minny. Keep them out west and off our cap. Tweek and go balls out for Weber

Clearly, you work in sales.
- Pixote Andolini

Whenever I stare at your avatar too long, my wife somehow gets me to do chores around the house that I'd never usually consider.

Interesting that there has been no additional rumors to follow these signings... I thought for sure once these deals went down the rumors mill would EXPLODE.

Quiet so far.

I'm not sure how this evolved into a Simmonds vs Hartnell comparison. My original point was that I think what Simmonds brings to this team is more valuable than what Jake brings. At least at this point, considering Jake's trouble finishing.
- FlyerGuy

You said he brought toughness which the team lacked I brought up Hartnell being a tough player but you told me he's not as tough as Simmonds. I'll leave you with a video maybe our definitions of tough are not the same either way the tape don't lie

You said he brought toughness which the team lacked I brought up Hartnell being a tough player but you told me he's not as tough as Simmonds. I'll leave you with a video maybe our definitions of tough are not the same either way the tape don't lie


- JoeRussomanno

No, I don't think Harts is as tough as Simmonds ... but that doesn't mean I think Harts is a wuss.

Let me rephrase it: I think Simmonds ADDED some toughness to the team that was lacking when Lappy (and maybe Asham) left.

It's not that Hartnell doesn't do his part in that area. He certainly does. It's just that overall the team was tougher to play against with Simmonds AND Hartnell.

Guess were in a holding pattern until Monday waiting for Doan to decide he is staying in Phoenix or going to Dallas...

Yep. The Flyers are losers because they didn't get to hand two very good, but not elite, players elite money for the next 13 years. Oh how (frank)ed we are as a team and fanbase.

No, I don't think Harts is as tough as Simmonds ... but that doesn't mean I think Harts is a wuss.

Let me rephrase it: I think Simmonds ADDED some toughness to the team that was lacking when Lappy (and maybe Asham) left.

It's not that Hartnell doesn't do his part in that area. He certainly does. It's just that overall the team was tougher to play against with Simmonds AND Hartnell.
- FlyerGuy

I can live with that