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Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
FYI.... This "indecision" is all just for the cameras....
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:09 PM ET
would you trade Kaner for Brown straight up?
- eburgio

With Parise on the roster already? YES. Another situation I'd drive Kaner - and his cuz - to the airport, with a cooler filled with beer inside, in my '96 Impala, and unload their bags at terminal 1.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:09 PM ET
Would be a tough pill to swallow. But i would not do it. Kane is a hell of a player and is a better offensive threat. But Brown is the captain. Hes a physical force. Kane is the kind of player I want on a line with him. I know Kane is worth more and has higher value. Its just me. Need the character in Brown.
- poisondhearts37


that's fair. well thought out response. if the hawks were to secure the wonder twins (parise/suter) i think that would be a move that would fall in line w/the new hawks identity. i would take brown in a heartbeat
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:09 PM ET
Hammer - Frolik - Stalberg done

If Stanbow has shown anything it is that he can dump salary and create CBA circumventing deals that fit in. Parise's deal averages 7.5 --- Suters averages 6.5 and bing bang boom hello Stanley Cup how are you doing today

And if Hossa on LTIR doesnt matter
And I would move Sharp for picks way before I move Kane

- fattybeef


Ok well. Sharp can't be traded cause he's got a No Trade. Stalberg makes less than $1MM, so dumping him actually doesn't help. Who's going to take Frolik? Unless you are saying Rocky will dump him in Rockford too. If Parise is getting a $14MM signing bonus, that bonus is still spread out across the life of the contract so I GUARANTEE his cap hit will still be above $8MM unless he signs like a 20 year deal which will then be nixed by the NHL like Kovalchuks.

If Hossa is on LTIR, then yes it could work. But if he gets healthy, you couldn't play him cause you'd be over the cap.

Do people REALLY think the Hawks can be cap compliant with Suter, Parise, AND Kane on one team??
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:09 PM ET
Bickell makes the league minimum. Sticking him in the minors and replacing his spot with anyone else in the entire league would not improve the cap space, only make it worse.
- coldsteelonice

captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:11 PM ET
I love Seabrook. Big, tough, nasty, cannon of a shot and can log big miniutes.
- fiveandagame


Yup! That's him! Bieksa(hate him so much)is really good too,so is Hamhuis too...Were u ticked Vigneault received an extension?
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:12 PM ET
With Parise on the roster already? YES. Another situatino I'd drive Kaner - and his cuz - to the airport, with a cooler filled with beer inside, in my '96 Impala, and unload their bags at terminal 1.
- blackhawk24


there's one caveat...Kaner and his cousin want more than a 30pk of PBR or HIgh Life that you bought at Meijer. Are you willing to step up to Rolling Rock? Maybe Bud Light Platinum?
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
If there is such a thing as an untouchable in the league right now, after this past year's performance, it would have to be Quick. Why are we even talking about this?
- Sundevil

You know I did premise my last statement with "hypothetical".... besides it's fun to talk about this stuff, passing the time waiting for a decision.

Besides it's over 90 outside here in Branson, I'm on a boat on Table Rock Lake, hoping to God we don't wander out of cell coverage, having a beer and watching some spectacular skiing wipeouts...
al_blog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:16 PM ET
I love Seabrook. Big, tough, nasty, cannon of a shot and can log big miniutes.
- fiveandagame


You just listed all the reasons why he's not going anywhere!
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Ok well. Sharp can't be traded cause he's got a No Trade.
- coldsteelonice


I wish people would quit saying this. Sharp CAN be traded...the NTC does not lock him into Chicago forever. Does it make it harder to trade him, sure...but he CAN be traded.
al_blog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Twitter is drastically more quiet than yesterday with no Parise announcement date (as yesterday was supposed to be).
I do hope it's soon so the rest of FA can get moving.
Invest
Joined: 05.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Ok well. Sharp can't be traded cause he's got a No Trade. Stalberg makes less than $1MM, so dumping him actually doesn't help. Who's going to take Frolik? Unless you are saying Rocky will dump him in Rockford too. If Parise is getting a $14MM signing bonus, that bonus is still spread out across the life of the contract so I GUARANTEE his cap hit will still be above $8MM unless he signs like a 20 year deal which will then be nixed by the NHL like Kovalchuks.

If Hossa is on LTIR, then yes it could work. But if he gets healthy, you couldn't play him cause you'd be over the cap.

Do people REALLY think the Hawks can be cap compliant with Suter, Parise, AND Kane on one team??

- coldsteelonice


Actually the numbers would work if you added Parise and Suter for about $14-15 mil total and eliminated Frolik and Hammer (Parise and Suter would replace them on the roster), send Montador down or away and add a player making the minimum to replace him and you'd have a roster of 23 with $1 mil or so to spare. All good.


Sabata
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jul 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Plus:

Best aquarium, art institute, science museum.
Downtown mag mile.
Only city in the US where a ballpark is a top-3 tourist attraction.
Tallest US bldg, >150 year-old water tower.
Best pizza (real pizza), beef sammiches and hot dogs.
Less bodies floating in less toxic waters.
Lake shores you can actually go in most days of the year.
and... not named the garden state because you can't fit "petrochemical and refinery state" on a license plate...

- blackhawk24


While you are slagging Jersey don't forget Chicago's pollution levels. It isn't exactly a clean city.
http://chicagopressreleas...tributor-to-air-pollution
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
there's one caveat...Kaner and his cousin want more than a 30pk of PBR or HIgh Life that you bought at Meijer. Are you willing to step up to Rolling Rock? Maybe Bud Light Platinum?
- eburgio

OK, Rolling Rock I get. But won't the words Bud Light and the word Platinum, when put together form an oxymoron??

Hey, if they want Sam Adams... I got 4-5 flavours of that too: Today it's Cherry Wheat.

If they want Guinness Draught....hey got a KILLER deal on that at Woodman's. 24-pk of 14.9oz cans for less than $18. Literally backed up the truck on that one...!
al_blog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
I wish people would quit saying this. Sharp CAN be traded...the NTC does not lock him into Chicago forever. Does it make it harder to trade him, sure...but he CAN be traded.
- kwolf68


He also just bought a house and got pretty settled. Don't think he's going anywhere. You are right, he CAN be traded but it's improbable.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
Actually the numbers would work if you added Parise and Suter for about $14-15 mil total and eliminated Frolik and Hammer (Parise and Suter would replace them on the roster), send Montador down or away and add a player making the minimum to replace him and you'd have a roster of 23 with $1 mil or so to spare. All good.
- Invest


Is it inconceivable to just ship Montador, Olesz and Frolik off for mid-round draft picks? With the Hawks losing their 2nd and 3rd for next season, is it that unlikely they could move those dudes for 3rd or 4th rounders? Hell, John Scott netted a 5th (btw...I still think Stan had naked photos of Glen Sather and a minor to pull that off)
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:21 PM ET
While you are slagging Jersey don't forget Chicago's pollution levels. It isn't exactly a clean city.
http://chicagopressreleas...tributor-to-air-pollution

- Sabata

Might I cite:

"Why is New Jersey called the garden state?" "Because you can't fit 'petrochemical and refinery state' on a license plate?"
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:21 PM ET
Why would you guys wanna move sharp anyways. He seems good for 30goals and 50 to 60 points a year.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:22 PM ET
OK, Rolling Rock I get. But won't the words Bud Light and the word Platinum, when put together form an oxymoron??

Hey, if they want Sam Adams... I got 4-5 flavours of that too: Today it's Cherry Wheat.

If they want Guinness Draught....hey got a KILLER deal on that at Woodman's. 24-pk of 14.9oz cans for less than $18. Literally backed up the truck on that one...!

- blackhawk24


I don't mind the Cherry Wheat. I bought a 12'er of Sam Summer Ale last year and it tasted like a Ham and Cheese sandwich. Pretty nasty. So I called and complained and they sent me a check for $18. I think I bought the 12'er for like 12+tax and CRV. Jim Koch is a smug little man, but I appreciated him making me whole.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
Is it inconceivable to just ship Montador, Olesz and Frolik off for mid-round draft picks? With the Hawks losing their 2nd and 3rd for next season, is it that unlikely they could move those dudes for 3rd or 4th rounders? Hell, John Scott netted a 5th (btw...I still think Stan had naked photos of Glen Sather and a minor to pull that off)
- eburgio

I think that Montador and Frolik are both tradeable. Olesz i feel is impossible to move.
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
I wish people would quit saying this. Sharp CAN be traded...the NTC does not lock him into Chicago forever. Does it make it harder to trade him, sure...but he CAN be traded.
- kwolf68


He JUST bought a multi-millionaire house in lakeview. He isn't going to accept a trade this year, that's for sure.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:24 PM ET
Why would you guys wanna move sharp anyways. He seems good for 30goals and 50 to 60 points a year.
- poisondhearts37


$5.9M
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
$5.9M
- eburgio

Seems the price for 30goal scorers. Hard to come by.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Jul 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
OK, Rolling Rock I get. But won't the words Bud Light and the word Platinum, when put together form an oxymoron??

Hey, if they want Sam Adams... I got 4-5 flavours of that too: Today it's Cherry Wheat.

If they want Guinness Draught....hey got a KILLER deal on that at Woodman's. 24-pk of 14.9oz cans for less than $18. Literally backed up the truck on that one...!

- blackhawk24


I was in Maine 2 weeks ago and tried a local beer called Gritty McDuff's Red Claw Ale.. The picture of the lobster shaking his fist on the label sold me.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jul 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
@jaeckel: All who read today's blog, bonus offered to Parise was apparently $12 million, not $14 million-- will update
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