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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
Thanks for the update nh, that certainly clears things up.
- canadianpenfan

anytime
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
The last 3 days have been so much fun that I hope Crosby doesn't re-up so we can do it again next year.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:59 PM ET
If he resigns there they are very limited in what kind of moves they can make moving forward, given their economic situation. Doesnt necessarily hurt the Penguins if he stays.
- Gunner Staal


I don't know a ton about the Devils prospects (ironic since I work in the building that their AHL team plays in), but doing things like giving Marty and Salvador and extra year, and if they dump the rest of their money on Parise, it seems like they are going for it all in the next year or so without much regard for the future. Not a ton of youth there, and no future goaltender in the system, and a mess of an ownership situation.

When the Pens went through their ownership struggles, at least they dumped players and got leaner financially, the Devils keep spending.
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:00 PM ET
The last 3 days have been so much fun that I hope Crosby doesn't re-up so we can do it again next year.
- canadianpenfan



Next year it will be #Malkinwatch
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:03 PM ET
In other news, Anderson Cooper has come out of the closet. Not even I needed hockeyyinsiderr to confirm that news!
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:04 PM ET
interesting take.

Mike Colligan ‏@MikeColligan

If the Parise process continues to drag on, have to wonder if #Devils are scrambling to refinance team debt and asking him to stall
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:04 PM ET
If he resigns there they are very limited in what kind of moves they can make moving forward, given their economic situation.
- Gunner Staal


Honestly, if you are being 100% objective I think Parise has 3 real options

(1) New Jersey [Familiar & Certain]: A 40yr-old goalie w/ no discerable heir for when he retires & limited financial capability going forward, but its been his home for the past 7yrs.

(2) Minnesota [Money]: The Wild suck and aren't getting better anytime soon. Sorry, they just aren't. But the have a pile of cash with his name on it. And, for some people, money does indeed equal happiness.

(3) Pittsburgh [Winning]: The Pens will be good for a very, very long time w/ Sid and Geno. Parise could end up being the 3rd, 4th, or even 5th fiddle on the team, but he'd have the chance to win the Stanley Cup more than once.

All the other teams are lesser variations of Pitt. (at least in my opinion).
Detroit: Like Pitt., but with an older supporting cast.
Chicago: Like Pitt., but with less Cap Space. & a tough long-term contract already in Hossa.
Phildelphia: Like Pitt., but with less Cap Space.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:06 PM ET
Honestly, if you are being 100% objective I think Parise has 3 real options

(1) New Jersey

- s0rcerer1984[Familiar & Certain]: A 40yr-old goalie w/ no discerable heir for when he retires & limited financial capability going forward, but its been his home for the past 7yrs.

(2) Minnesota [Money]: The Wild suck and aren't getting better anytime soon. Sorry, they just aren't. But the have a pile of cash with his name on it. And, for some people, money does indeed equal happiness.

(3) Pittsburgh [Winning]: The Pens will be good for a very, very long time w/ Sid and Geno. Parise could end up being the 3rd, 4th, or even 5th fiddle on the team, but he'd have the chance to win the Stanley Cup more than once.

All the other teams are lesser variations of Pitt. (at least in my opinion).
Detroit: Like Pitt., but with an older supporting cast.
Chicago: Like Pitt., but with less Cap Space. & a tough long-term contract already in Hossa.
Phildelphia: Like Pitt., but with less Cap Space.


I think Chicago and Pittsburgh are on equal footing.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:09 PM ET
Honestly, if you are being 100% objective I think Parise has 3 real options

(1) New Jersey

- s0rcerer1984[Familiar & Certain]: A 40yr-old goalie w/ no discerable heir for when he retires & limited financial capability going forward, but its been his home for the past 7yrs.

(2) Minnesota [Money]: The Wild suck and aren't getting better anytime soon. Sorry, they just aren't. But the have a pile of cash with his name on it. And, for some people, money does indeed equal happiness.

(3) Pittsburgh [Winning]: The Pens will be good for a very, very long time w/ Sid and Geno. Parise could end up being the 3rd, 4th, or even 5th fiddle on the team, but he'd have the chance to win the Stanley Cup more than once.

All the other teams are lesser variations of Pitt. (at least in my opinion).
Detroit: Like Pitt., but with an older supporting cast.
Chicago: Like Pitt., but with less Cap Space. & a tough long-term contract already in Hossa.
Phildelphia: Like Pitt., but with less Cap Space.


Yeah... I just don't see Minnesota being a great draw and wasting your last couple under-30 years on a losing team.

I said before, if he's that worried about going home someday, sign a shorter (6-7) year deal, and finish your career in Minnesota.
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
interesting take.

Mike Colligan ‏@MikeColligan

If the Parise process continues to drag on, have to wonder if #Devils are scrambling to refinance team debt and asking him to stall

- akane13



Yeah, this is a distinct possibility for sure
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yeah... I just don't see Minnesota being a great draw and wasting your last couple under-30 years on a losing team.

I said before, if he's that worried about going home someday, sign a shorter (6-7) year deal, and finish your career in Minnesota.

- rival22


If that is indeed something he wants to do, that would not be a bad idea.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
I think Chicago and Pittsburgh are on equal footing.
- Gunner Staal


Only thing that Pittsburgh has, is the quality of centers. Crosby/Malkin edge Toews/Sharp a little.

Chances are in Pittsburgh, he's going out with an all star center on every shift.

akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
Yeah, this is a distinct possibility for sure
- ryman1566



But man...if true, that should raise all kinds of red flags....like the mortgage broker and the couple desperate to get into a house they shouldn't really be buying because they can't really afford it but really want to have it and the broker really wants to seal the deal.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:24 PM ET
Only thing that Pittsburgh has, is the quality of centers. Crosby/Malkin edge Toews/Sharp a little.

Chances are in Pittsburgh, he's going out with an all star center on every shift.

- rival22



Until November anyway.
DrBassie
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: FL
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
Don't forget it's his hometown.



(2) Minnesota

- s0rcerer1984[Money]: The Wild suck and aren't getting better anytime soon. Sorry, they just aren't. But the have a pile of cash with his name on it. And, for some people, money does indeed equal happiness.


canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
I don't think we'll hear anything until Thursday at this point.
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
I don't think we'll hear anything until Thursday at this point.
- canadianpenfan



8:52 PM tonight....book it.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
You make her look at it or she asks? Either way that's messed up...
- canadianpenfan


I do hold her under the covers when I fart. Sometimes
Magicmanmalkin
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.25.2009

Jul 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Hee wont decide tonight...face it!
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
I think Chicago and Pittsburgh are on equal footing.
- Gunner Staal


Ture, but Chicago already has Hossa, less cap space, and only one elite C in Towes. Plus, its out West with a heck of a lot more travel. Chicago is also a bit more filled out on the W's already as compared to Pitt w/ Hossa and Kae. Why I put them as a lesser option than Pitt (at least in my mind).
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
Yeah... I just don't see Minnesota being a great draw and wasting your last couple under-30 years on a losing team.
I said before, if he's that worried about going home someday, sign a shorter (6-7) year deal, and finish your career in Minnesota.

- rival22


Who saw New Jersey getting to the finals this year, though ? I thought they were going to be a borderline playoff team (honestly thought they would be on the outside looking in). Who is to say that Minnesota, with Parise, can't be competitive in the next year or two ?
s0rcerer1984
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
Don't forget it's his hometown.
- DrBassie


Honestly, I think that angle is over-rated.

Personally, I grew up in Pitt., but have lived the past 6yrs of my life in Washington, DC. I'll always go back to Pitt. to see my family and for sporting events, but I live in DC now. Parise has lived in NJ for 6yrs. In many ways, that is more his home now than Minnesota is.
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
Being the Captain of Team USA, I think ZP just wanted to get his press on July 4th instead of Canada Day!

EDIT: Lol, you knew it wouldn't be long before something like this appeared;

Zach Parise ‏@undecidedparise
Philadelphia is offering me the most money, I don’t know why, I eliminated them from the playoffs and they like me still, weirdos
John Toperzer
Joined: 12.30.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
They're not my team but I like that the Pirates are 8 games up on the Phillies with 1/8 of the payroll.
- canadianpenfan


We need to make you an honorary Pirates fan, too, before the bandwagon gets too big!
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
We need to make you an honorary Pirates fan, too, before the bandwagon gets too big!
- the-mitch-wilsons



Pirate Ship, John, not bandwagon. Gotta be original
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