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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
#Pens disgruntles with Parise breaking agreement. Shero VERY mad. Also losing Sullivan to #Coyotes. PIT needs to reevaluate options.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
@HockeyyInsiderr. I respond one time. This is pure nonsense according to Shero. Did not happen.


Keep digging Insiderr....


- canadianpenfan


I saw that..

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
So for Suter, it came down to Nashville, Detroit and Minnesota

Minnesota Wild ‏@mnwild
Parise: "When it came down to it, it came to between New Jersey and Minnesota."

Where's the Insiderr now?

Those guys didn't want to play for the Penguins from day one... time to change our strategy atracting players....no more waitng games
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 2:52 PM ET
i am a little worried, because as it stands now, the talent level is lower than last years team
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jul 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
I saw that..

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
So for Suter, it came down to Nashville, Detroit and Minnesota

Minnesota Wild ‏@mnwild
Parise: "When it came down to it, it came to between New Jersey and Minnesota."

Where's the Insiderr now?

Those guys didn't want to play for the Penguins from day one... time to change our strategy atracting players....no more waitng games

- Orpik44




http://blogs.edmontonjour...ing-anyone-needs-to-know/
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/07/04/hockeyyinsiderr-everything-anyone-needs-to-know/
- canadianpenfan

wow one thing to go after the guy via twitter but on a blog itslef.. geez
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jul 4 @ 3:04 PM ET
rick nash approved pitt for his list of teams...i know some may not want him, but hes never had a good center in columbus. only thing is columbus would be asking way too much
- drummer829



Howson is dumb. Maybe Shero can fleece him. However, we don't have the goods to acquire Nash.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Everything happens for a reason the last time we got Hossa'd. We won the cup. No worries. Just glad to move on with this offseason.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
Howson is dumb. Maybe Shero can fleece him. However, we don't have the goods to acquire Nash.
- Oneonta Penguin

no we definitely do not. although depending on if there is legitimacy to some of the offers the ducks were given for ryan, we could compete with that
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
molinari tweeting a whole bunch from shero... basically shero doesnt care that he missed out on parise or suter, doesnt think he missed out on anyone waiting, thinks the offense and D are good to go an he will sees who avail.....


i say bullsh1t on all accounts....
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
no we definitely do not. although depending on if there is legitimacy to some of the offers the ducks were given for ryan, we could compete with that
- stayinthefnnet


Anytime you can turn a Flyer into a Pens fan....Bobby Ryan would be great but realistically, I don't know..

We are a worst team than before right now...

Hope Despres, Tangradi are whooping their asses on workouts...looks like we'll need them if we don't get anyon else
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 3:22 PM ET
Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty
Wild loaded at forward but defence even with Suter addition and trade last February for Gilbert sketchy. Would they deal Setoguchi for a D?

Pens Inside Scoop ‏@PensInsideScoop
Shero on Nash/Ryan: They're under contracts. But if there's a trade that makes sense for us, never know what's going to come your way -MC

Well....we'll have options
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 3:23 PM ET
Anytime you can turn a Flyer into a Pens fan....Bobby Ryan would be great but realistically, I don't know..

We are a worst team than before right now...

Hope Despres, Tangradi are whooping their asses on workouts...looks like we'll need them if we don't get anyon else

- Orpik44

looks like

jeffrey/ tangradi sid dupes
kuni geno neal
cooke suter tk
glass vitale adams

Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
Pens Inside Scoop ‏@PensInsideScoop
#Pens GM Shero on a top-6 winger: If we don't fill that hole via trade or free agency, someone's going to have an opportunity to step up -MC

Tang-ready time....hope he gets a shot if we can't find a better replacement
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:29 PM ET
Anytime you can turn a Flyer into a Pens fan....Bobby Ryan would be great but realistically, I don't know..

We are a worst team than before right now...

Hope Despres, Tangradi are whooping their asses on workouts...looks like we'll need them if we don't get anyon else

- Orpik44


The penguins are NOT worse now. With a healthy Sid playing all year and time to gel properly on the PP, we are much better I believe. Losing ZM may look bad at first, but him with Martin never worked out well. I think Martin will benefit from playing with a different partner. Look for Nisk to have a good year again, as well, they need to really begin to test guys like Despres and Tangradi. Ive said for a long time that Tangradi if he can get going could be the kinda player that could flourish with Sid.

As a long shot, I really am not as againt Semin for ONE year as I was before. Malkin could really reign him in I believe. If that does happen they could play with the idea of moving Neal up with Sid and Semin with Geno. For a one year experiment, I do not see the downside honestly. He can be traded at the deadline if its that bad. But the upside, is another very very good sniper on WING, something the pens really need!
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 3:31 PM ET
The penguins are NOT worse now. With a healthy Sid playing all year and time to gel properly on the PP, we are much better I believe. Losing ZM may look bad at first, but him with Martin never worked out well. I think Martin will benefit from playing with a different partner. Look for Nisk to have a good year again, as well, they need to really begin to test guys like Despres and Tangradi. Ive said for a long time that Tangradi if he can get going could be the kinda player that could flourish with Sid.

As a long shot, I really am not as againt Semin for ONE year as I was before. Malkin could really reign him in I believe. If that does happen they could play with the idea of moving Neal up with Sid and Semin with Geno. For a one year experiment, I do not see the downside honestly. He can be traded at the deadline if its that bad. But the upside, is another very very good sniper on WING, something the pens really need!

- taleisyreXIII


IF they agree to Semin then I would see
kuni sid dupes
semin geno neal
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:33 PM ET
The penguins are NOT worse now. With a healthy Sid playing all year and time to gel properly on the PP, we are much better I believe. Losing ZM may look bad at first, but him with Martin never worked out well. I think Martin will benefit from playing with a different partner. Look for Nisk to have a good year again, as well, they need to really begin to test guys like Despres and Tangradi. Ive said for a long time that Tangradi if he can get going could be the kinda player that could flourish with Sid.

As a long shot, I really am not as againt Semin for ONE year as I was before. Malkin could really reign him in I believe. If that does happen they could play with the idea of moving Neal up with Sid and Semin with Geno. For a one year experiment, I do not see the downside honestly. He can be traded at the deadline if its that bad. But the upside, is another very very good sniper on WING, something the pens really need!

- taleisyreXIII


to me, the dropoff from staal to sutter (nice player but not staal) still factors in on the team not being as good as a whole. and sullivan leaving sucks as well. not a stud, but another nice little winger that was underappreciated for what he did last year
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:34 PM ET
Anytime you can turn a Flyer into a Pens fan....Bobby Ryan would be great but realistically, I don't know..

We are a worst team than before right now...

Hope Despres, Tangradi are whooping their asses on workouts...looks like we'll need them if we don't get anyon else

- Orpik44

i have high hopes for despres as early as this year. however, if we are relying on tangradi we are in trouble
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:36 PM ET
IF they agree to Semin then I would see
kuni sid dupes
semin geno neal

- nh4442


Both Semin and Neal are big shot kinda players...I think having Sid dishing to Neal and Geno dishing to Semin would spread things out a little bit better. That is just me.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
to me, the dropoff from staal to sutter (nice player but not staal) still factors in on the team not being as good as a whole. and sullivan leaving sucks as well. not a stud, but another nice little winger that was underappreciated for what he did last year
- stayinthefnnet


But we never had Sid for most of the year. He came back with like 14 games left in the year, and played on the fourth line for some of that. Having him there for the full year to really assess the talent and distribute the players on lines properly counts for a lot. Chemistry can not be taken lightly, esp in the playoffs.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jul 4 @ 3:44 PM ET
Shame on me, I fell victim to hockeyy insiderr, now let us never speak of him again

Semin should be an option regardless of his past... Too skilled just to ignore considering crosby has no wingers if we keep malkin line intact
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Both Semin and Neal are big shot kinda players...I think having Sid dishing to Neal and Geno dishing to Semin would spread things out a little bit better. That is just me.
- taleisyreXIII

i agree that IF semin was signed, this is how it should likely happen. i really dont want semin. however, i just think it is about damn time crosby got somebody decent
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
i agree that IF semin was signed, this is how it should likely happen. i really dont want semin. however, i just think it is about damn time crosby got somebody decent
- stayinthefnnet


Except the guy you're talking about took a stupid verbal shot at the guy you're trying to please. Sid isn't going to like it, but hunker down 'til the trade deadline and go hard after iggy. Iggy wold be the perfect short term fix and fills several holes.

Little sad about Parise, but relieved just the same. 1st half of that contract would have been fun. Second half....prob not so much.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jul 4 @ 4:01 PM ET
The penguins are NOT worse now. With a healthy Sid playing all year and time to gel properly on the PP, we are much better I believe. Losing ZM may look bad at first, but him with Martin never worked out well. I think Martin will benefit from playing with a different partner. Look for Nisk to have a good year again, as well, they need to really begin to test guys like Despres and Tangradi. Ive said for a long time that Tangradi if he can get going could be the kinda player that could flourish with Sid.

As a long shot, I really am not as againt Semin for ONE year as I was before. Malkin could really reign him in I believe. If that does happen they could play with the idea of moving Neal up with Sid and Semin with Geno. For a one year experiment, I do not see the downside honestly. He can be traded at the deadline if its that bad. But the upside, is another very very good sniper on WING, something the pens really need!

- taleisyreXIII


The Pens are not much better now then they were at the end of the playoffs but the sky isn't falling because they didn't get Parise either.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
Except the guy you're talking about took a stupid verbal shot at the guy you're trying to please. Sid isn't going to like it, but hunker down 'til the trade deadline and go hard after iggy. Iggy wold be the perfect short term fix and fills several holes.

Little sad about Parise, but relieved just the same. 1st half of that contract would have been fun. Second half....prob not so much.

- madmike71

agree on all points. except whether it is available or not, i still would like the team to push hard for ryan
Sasquatchernaut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Bandwagon fan since 1984
Joined: 02.28.2010

Jul 4 @ 4:08 PM ET
Time to profess my ignorance here, but can teams trade RFA rights after July 1? There's still a few decent unsigned RFAs out there like Oshie and Versteeg. Not sue if we have anything STL would want, though.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jul 4 @ 4:16 PM ET
Time to profess my ignorance here, but can teams trade RFA rights after July 1? There's still a few decent unsigned RFAs out there like Oshie and Versteeg. Not sue if we have anything STL would want, though.
- Sasquatchernaut


Those rights can be traded at any time.
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