A KHL team will win the summer? I guess we heard it here first.
- keptupl8

Semin will play NHL hockey for someone.

Facts have no place here.
- Da_Cashman

No they do not

Stafford...merely as punishment for not being persuasive enough to lure Parise here.
- buffalofan19

Ha ha ha. I was thinking that. Can you imagine the phone call from Stafford to Parise?

Stafford: Dude, thanks for not choosing Buffalo, they just traded me

Parise: Ummmmm.....sorry?

Since the lockout...

Roy 152 goals 256 assists 408 points

Vanek 230 goals 217 assists 447 points

So how was Roy our best producer again?
- Homer

Roy played about 50 less games. Scoring at a 0.81 PPG pace, yeah those extra 50 games make up the difference in points.

Semin will play NHL hockey for someone.
- matty12345

I guess it all depends on where other guys go. He might. I think he could work in Detroit. They have the coin and the leadership to make it work. But if they aren't willing to take the risk, I think he's got a better shot at a team scraping for anything. Blue Jackets, Isles, something like that. Just my opinion. Ott adds character to the team. I like that. Semin may be more of a distraction than he's worth.

Since the lockout...

Roy 152 goals 256 assists 408 points

Vanek 230 goals 217 assists 447 points

So how was Roy our best producer again?
- Homer

roy 7 goals in 41 playoff games
vanek 15 goals in 36 playoff games
staff 3 goals in 20 playoff games
pommer 12 goals in 45 playoff games



briere
50 goals in 108 playoff games

(hides)

Roy missed almost 50 games 2 years ago
- CaptainRivet

The year he was scoring at a point per game pace. Having a career year when that injury happened.

The year he was scoring at a point per game pace. Having a career year when that injury happened.
- theblueandgold

The Sabres also played their best hockey in 4 years when he exited that career year. The argument should (and does) end there.

roy 7 goals in 41 playoff games
vanek 15 goals in 36 playoff games
staff 3 goals in 20 playoff games
pommer 12 goals in 45 playoff games



briere
50 goals in 108 playoff games

(hides)
- homiedclown

After he posted 95 points with us I told all my Philly friends he would never duplicate that in Philly... then that (frank)er still had to be a clutch goal scorer in the playoffs

I love Ott for Roy, but we just took a huge hit on the offensive end. We still need to score.Hope Darcy has some tricks up his sleeve.

roy 7 goals in 41 playoff games
vanek 15 goals in 36 playoff games
staff 3 goals in 20 playoff games
pommer 12 goals in 45 playoff games



briere
50 goals in 108 playoff games

(hides)
- homiedclown

Vanek .42 goals per game
Briere .46

we need more games...

Roy missed almost 50 games 2 years ago
- CaptainRivet

... and Vanek has missed at least 25+

The Sabres also played their best hockey in 4 years when he exited that career year. The argument should (and does) end there.
- buffalofan19

The same Sabres team this season that even with Roy on the team put up the same identical run that did 2 years ago of 16-5-4?

We're talking about the same team right?

Its too bad for people like you that the Sabres had to go on an identical run this season to completely debunk your myth that Roy was the reason.

The same Sabres team this season that even with Roy on the team put up the same identical run that did 2 years ago of 16-5-4?

We're talking about the same team right?

Its too bad for people like you that the Sabres had to go on an identical run this season to completely debunk your myth that Roy was the reason.
- theblueandgold

Are you the $50 bill in Roy's fish tank?

The Sabres also played their best hockey in 4 years when he exited that career year. The argument should (and does) end there.
- buffalofan19

You didn't think so at the time though right? I remember several discussions. Was the better play due to Roy being out or a coincidence. I thought you were on the coincidence side.

Am I wrong or did you change your mind when they didn't do as well when Roy got back in the lineup?

The year he was scoring at a point per game pace. Having a career year when that injury happened.
- theblueandgold

Why don't you reminisce with him on Chippewa over a few appletinis tonight....lord. He's gone. Let's talk about the players on our actual team, shall we?

The same Sabres team this season that even with Roy on the team put up the same identical run that did 2 years ago of 16-5-4?

We're talking about the same team right?

Its too bad for people like you that the Sabres had to go on an identical run this season to completely debunk your myth that Roy was the reason.
- theblueandgold

Roy's ice time was also diminished. This team is a far better one with him not being on it, period.

Roy played about 50 less games. Scoring at a 0.81 PPG pace, yeah those extra 50 games make up the difference in points.
- theblueandgold

cant produce when youre hurt, which hurts the team...anyway, carry on

just get ryan or perron and i'm happy

Are you the $50 bill in Roy's fish tank?
- rmiethaner

Your argument gets defeated so you result to personal insults, ahhh the great feeling of success.

You didn't think so at the time though right? I remember several discussions. Was the better play due to Roy being out or a coincidence. I thought you were on the coincidence side.

Am I wrong or did you change your mind when they didn't do as well when Roy got back in the lineup?
- keptupl8

I was most certainly not on the coincidence side. I've been saying trade him since after the 2010 playoffs. And I lobbied all last summer to trade him. He never showed the ability to make his teammates around him better.

Are you the $50 bill in Roy's fish tank?
- rmiethaner

... and Vanek has missed at least 25+
- Stadtusquo

MY BAD! Missed 17 in last 3 years

... and Vanek has missed at least 25+
- Stadtusquo

Vanek 547 games since lockout
Roy 500.

Can we put that small detail to rest?

I was most certainly not on the coincidence side. I've been saying trade him since after the 2010 playoffs. And I lobbied all last summer to trade him. He never showed the ability to make his teammates around him better.
- buffalofan19

must have you confused with someone else