It's called a no-trade for a reason. Often the teams throw it in to cut the price down a little. They didn't have to give it. He doesn't have to waive it.
- mrpurple

His NTC isnt effective until 2015-16 (i believe the last 2 years of the deal).

He does not have a NTC currently.

Nash is doing nothing to hurt Columbus right now. They arent legally obligated to ask Nash where he wants to go. They are doing that themselves.

Howson is a joke.

Ott is great on the draw, way tougher as we all know, wore a letter in Dallas, hits a ton and..wait for it, wait for it....averaged .53 points per game last year to Roy's .55......how is this not a great move?
- Homer

Don't get me wrong. I like the move. The greater value of it, though is that Roy is gone moreso than Ott is here. For that reason, they better not be finished.

Ott is great on the draw, way tougher as we all know, wore a letter in Dallas, hits a ton and..wait for it, wait for it....averaged .53 points per game last year to Roy's .55......how is this not a great move?
- Homer

Tween girls are crying all over WNY. Does that count?

Maybe now that Roy is gone, you'll come back to earth and understand that Vanek's problem is not Roy and never was Roy. Its Vanek.
- theblueandgold

This trade is fine if we can get more offense in here ASAP!!!! We can't rely on who were have. At least the underacheiving Slug legacy is on its way out.

we cant fit that under the cap......plus it would be one of the biggest trades in hockey history
- Homer

Yes we can... Getzlaf and Ryan are cap hit $10.45 million
Vanek and Sekera are 7.142 and 2.75, which is 9.892;
Throw in Hodgson and we gain $1million

Trade Ryan, Enroth, Adam and picks to Columbus for Nash and Foligno
That is $5.1 plus $.675 plus $.875 plus thew $1 gained from Anaheim for Nash and Foligno which is $7.8 million plus 2.5 million....which means we are out whatever the contract costs for Foligno.

This still leaves us with about $7million of cap space to sign Jokinen or Semin or Arnott

You have it all wrong, Steve Ott got 40 points once. Thats like me claiming id take all 80 points of Roy, because he did it once.

Get ready for more PK's too. The guy racks up the Roughing, Charging penalties.

Ott is a great 3rd line C. Love the physicality. But now we just created a hole in our offense -- scoring.
- theblueandgold

I have it ALL wrong? ALL OF IT? Really?

Would Roy have played on the #1 line anyway? Maybe, maybe not. You're missing the point. The type of player Ott is will help this team win tough games. Roy will never help you win the tough games.

Laugh it up clown, Garth broke this days ago, give him his credit
- theblueandgold

funny, it didnt happen two days ago, it happened today

Maybe now that Roy is gone, you'll come back to earth and understand that Vanek's problem is not Roy and never was Roy. Its Vanek.
- theblueandgold

are you kidding? must've not watched many games this year

Tween girls are crying all over WNY. Does that count?
- Pope of Pucks

This is the dagger in the heart of the Chip Strip!

Maybe now that Roy is gone, you'll come back to earth and understand that Vanek's problem is not Roy and never was Roy. Its Vanek.
- theblueandgold

I know all this, he won't waiver and the Jackets won't waiver, this will get worse by the day.

Maybe now that Roy is gone, you'll come back to earth and understand that Vanek's problem is not Roy and never was Roy. Its Vanek.
- theblueandgold

Vanek's propblem? What problem? He is our most productive player and has been for a while. What's the problem?

This trade is fine if we can get more offense in here ASAP!!!! We can't rely on who were have. At least the underacheiving Slug legacy is on its way out.
- Buffalo--Sabres

That team didnt underachieve, they overachieved. The "core" players were as big of a reason why we made a run in 05-06 and had success in 06-07. It wasnt ALL drury and briere.

That team didnt underachieve, they overachieved. The "core" players were as big of a reason why we made a run in 05-06 and had success in 06-07. It wasnt ALL drury and briere.
- theblueandgold

Yeah because we've had so much success since Briere and Drury left.

i know im late to the conversation....


But WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


super jazzed about the movie we just got way tougher!....i Love the Otter! perfect pick up...........and after a blah day defiantly feeling better this evening......i still think another move is coming....big time center or scorer i am have a feeling it wont be Ryan.....i have a feeling it will be a guy we haven't thought of

He's going to be in Rochester. I don't see how there would be room for him on Buffalo's roster anyway. The Rochester roster has plenty of space on it.
- HonkFortheGoose

Pardy is the next Salzer folks, Ièm sorry, I wanted him signed last year!
He will put it togther here...he is not Morrison or Greagnani...he is a Tallinder version, a poor manès Bryan Allan.

You have it all wrong, Steve Ott got 40 points once. Thats like me claiming id take all 80 points of Roy, because he did it once.

Get ready for more PK's too. The guy racks up the Roughing, Charging penalties.

Ott is a great 3rd line C. Love the physicality. But now we just created a hole in our offense -- scoring.
- theblueandgold

We didn't create that, it already existed.

His NTC isnt effective until 2015-16 (i believe the last 2 years of the deal).

He does not have a NTC currently.

Nash is doing nothing to hurt Columbus right now. They arent legally obligated to ask Nash where he wants to go. They are doing that themselves.

Howson is a joke.
- theblueandgold

For what it's worth, capgeek says Nash has a NMC for 2010-2015, and a NTC for 2015-2018.

i know im late to the conversation....


But WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


super jazzed about the movie we just got way tougher!....i Love the Otter! perfect pick up...........and after a blah day defiantly feeling better this evening......i still think another move is coming....big time center or scorer i am have a feeling it wont be Ryan.....i have a feeling it will be a guy we haven't thought of
- aschwach

We got a movie too? man this deal just got a lot better. What movie is it?

Vanek's propblem? What problem? He is our most productive player and has been for a while. What's the problem?
- Homer

Define has been for a while? Since we lost Drury and Briere.

07-08: 1. Roy, 2. Pommer 3. Vanek
08-09: 1. Roy 2. Pommer 3. Vanek
09-10: 1. Roy 2. Connolly 3. Pommer 4. Vanek
10-11: 1. Vanek 2. Stafford 3. Pommer (Roy #1 in PPG 35g 35pt)
11-12: 1. Pommer 2. Vanek 3. Stafford

Roy topped the list until he got injured. He wouldve stayed topping the list. A healthy Roy playing on the top line in Dallas with Benn and Loui... we're going to be crying that we only let him go for Ott.

He's going to be in Rochester. I don't see how there would be room for him on Buffalo's roster anyway. The Rochester roster has plenty of space on it.
- HonkFortheGoose

Regier confirmed that the plan as of now is pardy will be in the NHL and McNabb is going to Rochester\.

But that being said, I fully expect we see another d-man moved

Tween girls are crying all over WNY. Does that count?
- Pope of Pucks

they have guns in texas, roy better behave

We didn't create that, it already existed.
- Pierceme69

We dug it deeper.

Maybe now that Roy is gone, you'll come back to earth and understand that Vanek's problem is not Roy and never was Roy. Its Vanek.
- theblueandgold

THIS

For what it's worth, capgeek says Nash has a NMC for 2010-2015, and a NTC for 2015-2018.
- Freyster98

Since I'm too lazy to look it up, what's the difference between a NMC and a NTC?