Wilson was the problem with this team, he tried to play run and gun, but this team isn't a run and gun team... we are a dump and chase, defensive team... play to your strengths
- cor99

For the Leafs to play to their strenghts, they would have to play in an empty building. Toronto fans are the worst fans in pro sports. Think they know so much. Never seen a bigger group of uninformed idiots have stronger opinions and this includes a couple of crazy ass Tea Party rallies I covered for a paper.

Do you know how much you can get in return for him? Trade him to Columbus for example... Guarantee you can get johansen and a 1st rounder 2013 for him or more.
- Mapleleafs_91

don't want an unestablished center for a guy who just came of a career year and getting better, do you actually watch Kessel play? Not sharp defensively but deadly offence the kids a star

don't want an unestablished center for a guy who just came of a career year and getting better, do you actually watch Kessel play? Not sharp defensively but deadly offence the kids a star
- kovalchukTML

I think he could win a scoring title one day.

where do you see us finishing? I see no higher than 13th
- kovalchukTML

hmmm it's tough to say, but I think we are better than Florida, so 8th.

I do not understand what you wrote there above this. It is hard to read. I was not talking to you specifically though, so if I used your quote before and it looked that way, I apologize. I was speaking of the general consensus that is this

:Seguin is a guarenteed number one center
: JVR can never play center.
- Jimmy_T

How is Seguin a guaranteed #1C if he doesn't play center

hmmm it's tough to say, but I think we are better than Florida, so 8th.
- Boosinicka

Yea we should be better then Florida but there are a ton of teams that got better while we stayed the same. This is one season I will not bet on

How is Seguin a guaranteed #1C if he doesn't play center
- kovalchukTML

Holy poop dude. Thats exactly my point!!! I was critisizing people for saying that. You should re read the original post I dontfeel like explaining it.

Fukc, fukc, fukc......I'm going to bed! My fukcing head is about to explode! Someone pass the percasettes and some Johnny Walker Black!! I need to relax after this comedy show!!! If UG got suspended for being a jackass........ this above post deserves a 12 month suspension for a) idiocy, B) delusional activity, C) both!
- PrinceLH

Have a good night man, unless Hell freezes over i doubt we crack the Top 10. Book it.

Fukc, fukc, fukc......I'm going to bed! My fukcing head is about to explode! Someone pass the percasettes and some Johnny Walker Black!! I need to relax after this comedy show!!! If UG got suspended for being a jackass........ this above post deserves a 12 month suspension for a) idiocy, B) delusional activity, C) both!
- PrinceLH

hahaha. The Leafs are gonna be good.

For the Leafs to play to their strenghts, they would have to play in an empty building. Toronto fans are the worst fans in pro sports. Think they know so much. Never seen a bigger group of uninformed idiots have stronger opinions and this includes a couple of crazy ass Tea Party rallies I covered for a paper.
- Jimmy_T

No... The Leafs just have way more fans than most NHL teams, everyone grows up with hockey, so they voice their opinion

Every team has idiot fans, we just have the most because the Leafs are the number 1 priority in Toronto, hockey is such a huge part of the culture in this city...

Yea we should be better then Florida but there are a ton of teams that got better while we stayed the same. This is one season I will not bet on
- kovalchukTML

Explain how we have stayed the same

For the Leafs to play to their strenghts, they would have to play in an empty building. Toronto fans are the worst fans in pro sports. Think they know so much. Never seen a bigger group of uninformed idiots have stronger opinions and this includes a couple of crazy ass Tea Party rallies I covered for a paper.
- Jimmy_T

No... The Leafs just have way more fans than most NHL teams, everyone grows up with hockey, so they voice their opinion

Every team has idiot fans, we just have the most because the Leafs are the number 1 priority in Toronto, hockey is such a huge part of the culture in this city...

Holy poop dude. Thats exactly my point!!! I was critisizing people for saying that. You should re read the original post I dontfeel like explaining it.
- Jimmy_T

Ohh poop my bad you were agreeing with me. (frank) i feel stupid yea i was thinking that there's no way he can be a #1c if hes never played, that other guy was just blowing random shiit out of his ass

No... The Leafs just have way more fans than most NHL teams, everyone grows up with hockey, so they voice their opinion

Every team has idiot fans, we just have the most because the Leafs are the number 1 priority in Toronto, hockey is such a huge part of the culture in this city...
- ejeezy

Yeah I know logically that you are right, but it doesnt make it any easier to listen to, "Burke is an idiot....Seguin is Gretzkey....JVR sux....Kadri is a bust"

Wish theyd can it.

Leafs will finish first in the east....

Ohh poop my bad you were agreeing with me. (frank) i feel stupid yea i was thinking that there's no way he can be a #1c if hes never played, that other guy was just blowing random shiit out of his ass
- kovalchukTML

Yeah its just funny. If you suggest that JVR is gonna be our number one center, people say that is ridiculous. The same people who say this will tell you that Seguin is a number one center.

Both guys have been moved to the wing because of the depth of their respective teams at their natural position. Not saying JVR is a success at center or that Seguin can't be. Just saying their logic is assinine.

Yeah I know logically that you are right, but it doesnt make it any easier to listen to, "Burke is an idiot....Seguin is Gretzkey....JVR sux....Kadri is a bust"

Wish theyd can it.
- Jimmy_T

Ditto, really makes the rest of us look bad not to mention.

We need patience, Burke is doing a good job with his patience, despite what the morons think.

#1 Center - Yup, Nothing

Goaltending - As it appears, nothing, who knows what Reimer or Scrivens do next season, Reimer was brilliant before his concussion, he could return to that form this year.

Grit and Toughness - Brown, Komarov, Frattin, McClement, Komisarek, Phaneuf, Holzer

Defense - meh? I'm sorry, it's NOT that bad... it's a young group, we need to add a good veteran player to the mix...
- cor99

Jagr

Weird... people only seem to remember the last quarter of the season.... when we got hit with the injury bug.... up until then we were what? 6th, and 2 points out of 4th and 4 from the division?

We aren't as bad as people think we are.... and i get a good chuckle when guys like prince run in and declare that the world is ending and the sky is falling.

Explain how we have stayed the same
- Boosinicka

We lost Armstrong and brought in McClement, not a drastic upgrade if one at all. Brought in an underacheiving winger for an underacheiving d-man, umm i dont see how we got any better.

Can you tell me what kind of drugs you're on or are you actually that stupid that you think we got better

Ditto, really makes the rest of us look bad not to mention.

We need patience, Burke is doing a good job with his patience, despite what the morons think.
- ejeezy

The absolute best is when the say "Burke should do a proper rebuild"

Umm what do you call having the youngest team in hockey with the most former first rounders on it?

To all those saying that, the Leafs have 11 first rounders in the system, the oldest being Lupul at 28. They actually have 12 but I do not cound Matt Lashoff.

Jagr
- MCharisma91

Well he said defensmen I suggested we trade COnnolly + Komisarek for Bouwmeester. Was surprised at how many Leafs didn't want to do that trade.

Well he said defensmen I suggested we trade COnnolly + Komisarek for Bouwmeester. Was surprised at how many Leafs didn't want to do that trade.
- Boosinicka

Calgary would never do that. That is just silly.

Yeah its just funny. If you suggest that JVR is gonna be our number one center, people say that is ridiculous. The same people who say this will tell you that Seguin is a number one center.

Both guys have been moved to the wing because of the depth of their respective teams at their natural position. Not saying JVR is a success at center or that Seguin can't be. Just saying their logic is assinine.
- Jimmy_T

Agreed... Would you be up for trying JVR at C or would you keep him at wing personally?

We lost Armstrong and brought in McClement, not a drastic upgrade if one at all. Brought in an underacheiving winger for an underacheiving d-man, umm i dont see how we got any better.

Can you tell me what kind of drugs you're on or are you actually that stupid that you think we got better
- kovalchukTML

Kovalchuck, you seem like a cool dude, but I don't think you know much about McClement. The guy is a MASSIVE upgrade on Armstrong and is instantly our best penalty killer.