Agreed. it's pretty interesting to see how other teams fans undervalue our players when they clearly have potential to be good let alone great
- kovalchukTML

Wow. Its also pretty interesting to see how Leaf fans have consistently fallen in love and overvalued our players for the last, oh, 40-odd years. It's called Blue and White disease; you should get that looked at. If our players are so fackin' great, why have we been out of the playoffs for 8 years and why is Burke desperate to make trades?

robert collins ‏@RobCollins1990

Cody Franson has no interest in enduring another season like his first in Toronto http://bit.ly/LU4G6E

He was likely to be moved anyway
- cor99

He played pretty well last year and still has potential top be a solid top 4 TWD man a I think we should keep him around

Don't worry man. I've adopted Blacker as my next go to guy next to Mckegg
- weirdoh

ditto, I have them on even keel since they are playing different spots.

*holding out hope McKegg is the greatest 3rd round pick of all time... well hell ok, 2nd greatest next to Lidstrom

Is that too much to ask?

Nah I moved out of the city in November. That got me jonesing for their wings the other day though.

I'd certainly be open to dealing Phaneuf...
- Big_Lightnin

Ah too bad where did you move to

I'm open to anyone

Ah too bad where did you move to

I'm open to anyone
- Mr_Smokey

How about Dion for Bryz and Briere...

How about Dion for Bryz and Briere...
- Flyfreaky

Dion for Briere sure

Wow. Its also pretty interesting to see how Leaf fans have consistently fallen in love and overvalued our players for the last, oh, 40-odd years. It's called Blue and White disease; you should get that looked at. If our players are so fackin' great, why have we been out of the playoffs for 8 years and why is Burke desperate to make trades?
- triggermartin

It takes time and patience now don't get me wrong I'm fresh outta patience but when Burke came here he stated he had a 3 year rebuild plan to make us contenders. We all know how that worked out but we also have to look at the good things, we now have a solid nucleus of young players with potential and a new star player to build around(kessel) something we didn't hve 4 years ago.

We're only two pieces, albeit the two biggest pieces away from actually becoming a good team so why is it so wrong to have confidence in the young guys for once. I'm sure you an ask any Leaf fan and they'll tell you they're excited for the future

Ah too bad where did you move to

I'm open to anyone
- Mr_Smokey

Beamsville - close to Niagara.

How about Dion for Bryz and Briere...
- Flyfreaky

not so much,

Ah too bad where did you move to

I'm open to anyone
- Mr_Smokey

open as in dating?

open as in dating?
- weirdoh

more like dtf

robert collins ‏@RobCollins1990

Cody Franson has no interest in enduring another season like his first in Toronto http://bit.ly/LU4G6E

He was likely to be moved anyway

EDIT: Here's the actual link... from Siegel

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto...s/jonas_siegel/?id=399810
- cor99

I thought with Schenn's departure he was a shoe in? And also thought he was the best Leaf in Carlyle's stint. Pretty high on this guy and really hope he isn't traded.

Dear god OTT went to buffalo dallas is doing pretty good picking up some key guys but buffalo just got tougher

Dear god OTT went to buffalo dallas is doing pretty good picking up some key guys but buffalo just got tougher
- Mapleleafs_91

John Scott.

more like dtf
- Mr_Smokey

Jackpot!

It takes time and patience now don't get me wrong I'm fresh outta patience but when Burke came here he stated he had a 3 year rebuild plan to make us contenders. We all know how that worked out but we also have to look at the good things, we now have a solid nucleus of young players with potential and a new star player to build around(kessel) something we didn't hve 4 years ago.

We're only two pieces, albeit the two biggest pieces away from actually becoming a good team so why is it so wrong to have confidence in the young guys for once. I'm sure you an ask any Leaf fan and they'll tell you they're excited for the future
- kovalchukTML

I hate how Burke's word is taken as gospel. He never said that. Here's what he really said per Globe & Mail

Burke was the GM with the Anaheim Ducks for just under two years when that team won its first and only Stanley Cup in 2007.

“It’s not easy to fix a team that’s broken,” Burke said. “It’s not. And I had no illusions or delusions about that except that I watched general managers get up there the first day [they were hired]and say we’ve got a five-year plan... I don’t respect that. (all he ever said is that he wasn't interested in a 5-year plan and people went all ape poop with assumptions)

“My view was I was hopeful we could do it quicker. We haven’t. But I haven’t changed the plan... We have more first-round picks [in the organization] than any other team in the NHL... It’s a young group, we haven’t gone old, we haven’t tried to band-aid things, we’ve tried to build them. But yes, it’s frustrating. It’s very difficult.

“I was in the playoffs seven straight years before I got here. This has been agonizing. I’m sure you can see it in my face – I haven’t slept in a month, two months. If fans think they’re disappointed, I can assure you the general manager is far more disappointed.”

He played pretty well last year and still has potential top be a solid top 4 TWD man a I think we should keep him around
- kovalchukTML

Too soft, unless he grows a set. I really could care less what Franson wants or does

Dear god OTT went to buffalo dallas is doing pretty good picking up some key guys but buffalo just got tougher
- Mapleleafs_91

Ottawa got way more pu$$y like again if that helps.......

I hate how Burke's word is taken as gospel. He never said that. Here's what he really said per Globe & Mail

Burke was the GM with the Anaheim Ducks for just under two years when that team won its first and only Stanley Cup in 2007.

“It’s not easy to fix a team that’s broken,” Burke said. “It’s not. And I had no illusions or delusions about that except that I watched general managers get up there the first day
- Boosinicka[they were hired]and say we’ve got a five-year plan... I don’t respect that. (all he ever said is that he wasn't interested in a 5-year plan and people went all ape poop with assumptions)

“My view was I was hopeful we could do it quicker. We haven’t. But I haven’t changed the plan... We have more first-round picks [in the organization] than any other team in the NHL... It’s a young group, we haven’t gone old, we haven’t tried to band-aid things, we’ve tried to build them. But yes, it’s frustrating. It’s very difficult.

“I was in the playoffs seven straight years before I got here. This has been agonizing. I’m sure you can see it in my face – I haven’t slept in a month, two months. If fans think they’re disappointed, I can assure you the general manager is far more disappointed.”

This.

Ottawa got way more pu$$y like again if that helps.......
- Sheppy99

They lost Carkner and Foligno. Now all they have is Neil. Brown will ruin him.

Too soft, unless he grows a set. I really could care less what Franson wants or does
- Sheppy99

So what you're saying is you'd rather have Komi in the line-up.... interesting

I hate how Burke's word is taken as gospel. He never said that. Here's what he really said per Globe & Mail

Burke was the GM with the Anaheim Ducks for just under two years when that team won its first and only Stanley Cup in 2007.

“It’s not easy to fix a team that’s broken,” Burke said. “It’s not. And I had no illusions or delusions about that except that I watched general managers get up there the first day
- Boosinicka[they were hired]and say we’ve got a five-year plan... I don’t respect that. (all he ever said is that he wasn't interested in a 5-year plan and people went all ape poop with assumptions)

“My view was I was hopeful we could do it quicker. We haven’t. But I haven’t changed the plan... We have more first-round picks [in the organization] than any other team in the NHL... It’s a young group, we haven’t gone old, we haven’t tried to band-aid things, we’ve tried to build them. But yes, it’s frustrating. It’s very difficult.

“I was in the playoffs seven straight years before I got here. This has been agonizing. I’m sure you can see it in my face – I haven’t slept in a month, two months. If fans think they’re disappointed, I can assure you the general manager is far more disappointed.”

what else kind of plan is there thats less then 5 years, 1,2,3,4 year plan?

All i'm saying is be patient it will all be over soon, after all it's only hockey

So what you're saying is you'd rather have Komi in the line-up.... interesting
- peddy-93

If he's not traded, Komi will be in the lineup - hard as this is to say, they need him on the PK

Really don't want to see either Kulemin or Blacker traded. Kuli cause you're really selling low, and Blacker cause I think he's going to be very good, especially paired with O'Reilly eventually.

Or hell, Franson. Blacker-Franson on the #2 PP would be fun - bombs from both sides up top

Hoping he gets minimum 20 games with the Leafs this year to get his feet wet. He lost a lot of developement due to injuries last year, so might not be ready to steal a spot in camp.

Although, he's had 3 great camps so far. Hell he looked better than most Leafs D when he was 18.
- Big_Lightnin

Thank Ron Wilson for that. Once the Leaf roster learns and adapts to Randy Carlyles defensive system I think we will be a lot better. I'm down with keeping both of them, but if a lottery pick or anything that can help us comes back in a trade I'd do it. We have an abundance of D with Finn and Rielly being drafted this year.

They lost Carkner and Foligno. Now all they have is Neil. Brown will ruin him.
- Unholy_Forward

I think they lost kenopka too