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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think you're too quickly ruling out of the Flyers, but we'll see.
- LordStanley88


I hope you're right....I really want them to sign Parise
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think your sellig them short. If some fans think they know better then the Flyers, then more power to them. I'm not concerned at all about the media or any other things like that. I ythink Bryzgalov learned from his experiences last Season and will be fine. Teams have a good understanding of the landscape and what's goign to be available, well before July 1. They signed Leighton because they thought it was the right move considering all the circumstances involved. If you think they chose him because it was easy, then I don't know what to tell you there.
- MJL


As someone who agrees with 90% of all of Homer and the Flyers moves, I think I have the right to disagree with this one. I hope I'm wrong.

Bryz is a professional and I know he will be highly motivated to have a much better year. I hope he does, I know he can. If however he has a similar year, it is going to be ugly.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
Bill thought he wanted a 4yr deal, which is a deal breaker for over an 35 yo contract
Probably around 4M per year?

- Marc D


I want nothing to do with Parise. He can go rot in Pittsburgh for all I care. The Flyers need to be saving money for the young kids, and Weber next season.

If Carle is seeking anything over 5 million I'd be looking at Suter. If Suter's hit is anything over 7 million/season let them both rot elsewhere.

I'd love Doan. 3 years or less, or he can rot elsewhere.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
Twitter of course.....said it was narrowed down to 2 teams....so either PItt-Minn or Minn-NJ or Pitt-NJ
- flyersfan51

Who on twitter reported that?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
See this is why to me twitter is a joke.

I could have told you that, and so could have any other guy. Of course Nashville is in on it, they are his current team. Detriot needs a #1, and Minny is a hometown choice.

Absolutely hate twitter.

- flyer_nutter



Can't disagree. Thats why its all speculation until an announcement is made. The money thats being reported can also be false.

Although the guys from TSN are usually on point.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
Who on twitter reported that?
- Flyers1218


#puckingsports, KFan1003, and Andy Strickland.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
See this is why to me twitter is a joke.

I could have told you that, and so could have any other guy. Of course Nashville is in on it, they are his current team. Detriot needs a #1, and Minny is a hometown choice.

Absolutely hate twitter.

- flyer_nutter

not sure why him saying this makes you hate the entire medium


there are crazy rumors out there... so to hear dreger say that at least lends some credibility and potentially squashes some of the outlandish stuff
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
Bill thought he wanted a 4yr deal, which is a deal breaker for over an 35 yo contract
Probably around 4M per year?

- Marc D

I read (I believe on one of Bill's blogs) that he would basically ignore anything under 3 years. 3 years is not under 3 years....I could definitely handle Doan on a 3 year deal.

However, it makes you think- if Doan wants about 4, why not just bring Jags back?
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
Who on twitter reported that?
- Flyers1218


Know one.

Strickland said it was down to 2 teams though, didn't name them.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
Ryan Suter is narrowing his list of teams that he's considering. The Carolina Hurricanes are among the teams that Suter has decided not to sign with. It's not clear who is still in the running, but the frontrunners probably include the Minnesota Wild, Detroit Red Wings, and Nashville Predators.
Source: Darren Dreger on Twitter

Might not even be an issue.

- stveshdy


Please God be true.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
I want nothing to do with Parise. He can go rot in Pittsburgh for all I care. The Flyers need to be saving money for the young kids, and Weber next season.

If Carle is seeking anything over 5 million I'd be looking at Suter. If Suter's hit is anything over 7 million/season let them both rot elsewhere.

I'd love Doan. 3 years or less, or he can rot elsewhere.

- flyer_nutter

that's a lot of rot right there
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
I read (I believe on one of Bill's blogs) that he would basically ignore anything under 3 years. 3 years is not under 3 years....I could definitely handle Doan on a 3 year deal.

However, it makes you think- if Doan wants about 4, why not just bring Jags back?

- Giroux_Is_God


Doan was a warhorse in the playoffs this season.

Jagr started to break down and be useless. I'd be going with Doan all the way. Also adds the toughness the Flyers need up front. If the Flyers add Doan I do not think they need another man to fill out the bottom 6.

If they do not, I think they need a defensive physical guy to fill out the trenches.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
Doan was a warhorse in the playoffs this season.

Jagr started to break down and be useless. I'd be going with Doan all the way. Also adds the toughness the Flyers need up front. If the Flyers add Doan I do not think they need another man to fill out the bottom 6.

If they do not, I think they need a defensive physical guy to fill out the trenches.

- flyer_nutter


Jagr wasn't useless in the Penguins series, when he was compiled points in five of the six games. Just saying. I'd prefer Doan at this point, too.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
I want nothing to do with Parise. He can go rot in Pittsburgh for all I care. The Flyers need to be saving money for the young kids, and Weber next season.

If Carle is seeking anything over 5 million I'd be looking at Suter. If Suter's hit is anything over 7 million/season let them both rot elsewhere.

I'd love Doan. 3 years or less, or he can rot elsewhere.

- flyer_nutter

flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
Please God be true.
- MBFlyerfan


you don't want Suter??
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
I read (I believe on one of Bill's blogs) that he would basically ignore anything under 3 years. 3 years is not under 3 years....I could definitely handle Doan on a 3 year deal.

However, it makes you think- if Doan wants about 4, why not just bring Jags back?

- Giroux_Is_God

Mixed feeling about bringing Jagr back especially since it sounds like he wants $4M.

I think he was great, but certain to break down a lot.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
All these tweets and rumors and in and out scenarios are making me nuts. I think I'm going to turn off my computer, hope for the best and read about it in the morning.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
Please God be true.
- MBFlyerfan


The scary thing is. If Suter isn't signed, do you want Carle at 5-6 million for 4 years?

Thats horrific.

If you can have Suter for 7, Id go for the upgrade. There are times when a guy like Coburn or Mez have outplayed Carle for long stretches. I do not want to pay Carle crazy money.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
Doan was a warhorse in the playoffs this season.

Jagr started to break down and be useless. I'd be going with Doan all the way. Also adds the toughness the Flyers need up front. If the Flyers add Doan I do not think they need another man to fill out the bottom 6.

If they do not, I think they need a defensive physical guy to fill out the trenches.

- flyer_nutter


I'm not saying there isnt a chance to get Doan but if hes willing to wait until July 9th to see whats going on in Phoenix I would say they are the favorites to get him back. He wants to stay there.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
#puckingsports, KFan1003, and Andy Strickland.
- flyersfan51

Strickland said that it was down to two teams. No where did he say who those teams were. Come on man. Why lie to people? You're better than that.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:28 PM ET
you don't want Suter??
- flyersfan51


At 12 years 8.3333 per year. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:28 PM ET
This is really getting ridiculous.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:29 PM ET
Jagr wasn't useless in the Penguins series, when he was compiled points in five of the six games. Just saying. I'd prefer Doan at this point, too.
- bmeltzer

Bill, do you know what kind of money Doan is looking for? I remember you saying he won't look at anything less than 3 years, but I don't think you said anything about money. Is a 4ish hit reasonable??

By the way- great blogs in the last few days as usual. Thanks!
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
I think i would rather watch Golden Girl or Mama's Family reruns at this point
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
Jagr wasn't useless in the Penguins series, when he was compiled points in five of the six games. Just saying. I'd prefer Doan at this point, too.
- bmeltzer


Good point Bill.

However to me, the Pittsburgh series was so open. When it got down to a team like Jersey, and Jagr has less room to work with he struggled.

I think a guy like Carcillo could have put up good numbers if he played with Giroux against Pittsburgh.

Jagr scares me, because they lock up 3 million in a guy that could be spent upgrading the D instead, or add a guy who is solid defensively and a physical presence to the forwards.

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