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LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
briere for j-bo
- OrangeBlack27


flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
If there were gigantic holes in his game, the Flyers wouldn't have signed him to be the backup. I trust the Flyers scouting in that regard. I think far too much is being made of Bryzgalov's emotional stability. He didn't get to where he is by being weak mentally. There were a few players available who were better choices, but they signed with other teams.
- MJL


I'd trust Flyers Scouting to be able to pick an elite NHL Power Forward out at a Delivery ward. I'd trust them to know a good Defensemen after 1-2 years after they are drafted. However, I would not trust them to know the difference between a fully developed NHL goaltender and a hole in the ground.

As far as Bryzgalov's Stability. I do think people make a big deal of it affecting his game. He is a great goaltender, and I don't worry about his emotions and his play. I worry that he is going to get fed up with the media and fans during a bad spell and publically say "Trade me right F'n Now!" It's the off-ice stuff we would be foolish not to plan for. Also factoring in injuries and the normal problems goalies have, we should not take the Backup role lightly.

As far as better choices signing with other teams, Leighton was the first signing of the day... He said they had a deal before FA day started. How long did they look? They signed Leighton cause he was the easy signing and they wanted to concentrate on the big fish.

FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:20 PM ET
briere for j-bo
- OrangeBlack27


j-bo's contract would expire right in time for the flyers to pay giroux, schenn, and couturier. so that's a plus.....

and this type of deal is the only way i'm even considering bouwmeester. doubt it's possible, though
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 2 @ 12:20 PM ET
If Jarg bolts, would Hudler be attractive to anyone, also if Carle leaves or is priced out of our range I look to Carlo Colaiacovo for a short deal maybe
- Pat MaGroin

Yes on both
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:21 PM ET
briere for j-bo
- OrangeBlack27


J-Bo will be a bust in Philly.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 2 @ 12:21 PM ET
Let Parise sign with Pittsburgh. Just as long as the Flyers knock them out in the playoffs again, I'll be content.
- Pixote Andolini


agreed.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:21 PM ET
CC would be a good, cheap alternative to Carle. I'd prefer a trade though.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
Eklund tweeting some odd stuff.

Parise in on Chicago & JVR to CLB in Nash package.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
J-Bo will be a bust in Philly.
- flyersfan51


Just like in Calgary.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
Signing bonuses absolutely count against the Cap. All a signing bonus is, is money up front. Say if a player signs a deal that calls for 10M in salary for the first year with an 8M signing bonus. All that means is that the player get's 8M of the 10M paid upfront. Not in addition to the 10M.
- MJL



ah ok now that makes sense. is there a max signing bonus allowed?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:23 PM ET
I'd trust Flyers Scouting to be able to pick an elite NHL Power Forward out at a Delivery ward. I'd trust them to know a good Defensemen after 1-2 years after they are drafted. However, I would not trust them to know the difference between a fully developed NHL goaltender and a hole in the ground.

As far as Bryzgalov's Stability. I do think people make a big deal of it affecting his game. He is a great goaltender, and I don't worry about his emotions and his play. I worry that he is going to get fed up with the media and fans during a bad spell and publically say "Trade me right F'n Now!" It's the off-ice stuff we would be foolish not to plan for. Also factoring in injuries and the normal problems goalies have, we should not take the Backup role lightly.

As far as better choices signing with other teams, Leighton was the first signing of the day... He said they had a deal before FA day started. How long did they look? They signed Leighton cause he was the easy signing and they wanted to concentrate on the big fish.

- flyler



I think your sellig them short. If some fans think they know better then the Flyers, then more power to them. I'm not concerned at all about the media or any other things like that. I ythink Bryzgalov learned from his experiences last Season and will be fine. Teams have a good understanding of the landscape and what's goign to be available, well before July 1. They signed Leighton because they thought it was the right move considering all the circumstances involved. If you think they chose him because it was easy, then I don't know what to tell you there.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
How come every guy on NHL 36 plays the coyotes lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
ah ok now that makes sense. is there a max signing bonus allowed?
- nastyflyergirl



Not sure about that.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:26 PM ET
Its a lot closer than you think.
- MBFlyerfan


Thats your opinion. I'm not getting into a debate about it.
LW2530
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone have some change?, FL
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
Eklund tweeting some odd stuff.

Parise in on Chicago & JVR to CLB in Nash package.

- LordStanley88


JVR to Columbus probably means hip surgery.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
Suter is a better player. But there's no way it's not even close. It is close. The only area where Suter is significantly better is on the PP. All other areas they're comparable. I'd give Suter the edge defensively. But not by a lot.

And I know one thing for sure. Suter isn't a player that you should be signing to a 10 or 12 year deal for 80-100M. That's insane.

Here's a comparable player to Suter and his contract.

http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=121

- MJL


Theres more to the game then just numbers. Not going to get into a debate about it. We are allowed to disagree on a players worth. Different opinions.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
Theres more to the game then just numbers. Not going to get into a debate about it. We are allowed to disagree on a players worth. Different opinions.
- stveshdy


Where is the blue man guy? Everyone seems to be allowed an opinion, but not him.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
I actually hope Parise ends up with the Wild, the twin cities is a great hockey market. I think Ryan will be the target next, I'm not as concerned as others with d simply because I think MAB or any of the other kids can continue to gain experience and be a very contributor on the third pairing this year. Maybe they resign Carle, and trade assets on the current roster for Ryan. I'm just not as down on the young guys already in the organization to play minutes on the third pairing.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
I actually hope Parise ends up with the Wild, the twin cities is a great hockey market. I think Ryan will be the target next, I'm not as concerned as others with d simply because I think MAB or any of the other kids can continue to gain experience and be a very contributor on the third pairing this year. Maybe they resign Carle, and trade assets on the current roster for Ryan. I'm just not as down on the young guys already in the organization to play minutes on the third pairing.
- ravishingone


Amen
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

To trade Bobby Ryan, the Ducks want a few pieces, including a 2nd line center.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
I actually hope Parise ends up with the Wild, the twin cities is a great hockey market. I think Ryan will be the target next, I'm not as concerned as others with d simply because I think MAB or any of the other kids can continue to gain experience and be a very contributor on the third pairing this year. Maybe they resign Carle, and trade assets on the current roster for Ryan. I'm just not as down on the young guys already in the organization to play minutes on the third pairing.
- ravishingone

i find it odd that there are almost zero Wild fans on this website
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

To trade Bobby Ryan, the Ducks want a few pieces, including a 2nd line center.

- Pat MaGroin


So that means Schenn or Couts.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
i find it odd that there are almost zero Wild fans on this website
- Crimsoninja


It is suprising because high school and college hockey is really huge in that area. I know they have a strong base of season ticket holders.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:37 PM ET
So that means Schenn or Couts.
- NickTheKid87


or Briere.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
Hurry and (frank)ing sign already. Jesus, lebron didn't take this long
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