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FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
Suter will be Kunta Kinte in this town if he signs that reported Flyers contract offer.

- MBFlyerfan


bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
I'm concerned about it. But I'm more concerned about paying 6M or more for a player who isn't worth that contract.
- MJL


Salaries/cap hits are going up, but so is the upper limit.

$6 million next season is not the same as $6 million one or two seasons ago.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Ruh roh RT @andystrickland: Told Zach Parise deciding between two teams #NHL
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
There's only a small collection of defenders past and present that can control a game to the point where they transcend the team-nature of the sport -- as good as he is, Suter isn't one of them. Weber is even debatable. With Lidstrom retired, the only dman that fits into that category fully is Chara with the way he dominates in his own zone.

Suter is a solid add in a vaccuum, but if it puts you in salary cap jail and you end up with holes elsewhere you can't fill, then you're not really better off as a team in the end.

- Tomahawk


Valid points. Homer must feel that he is worth the money or he wouldnt offer this kind of cash. Suter is a legit defenseman. All Star caliber. There arent many defenseman like Weber or Chara in this league. Suter is the next best thing behind those types of players on defense.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET

- FlyerMike18


Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
I really think Parise goes to Philly or Pittsburgh.
- LordStanley88


Philly or Minnesota.

He just recently got married in Minnesota and grew up there
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
7.5 for weber lol he's gonna get close to 10 mill a year
- griouxmvp2012


Not this year....
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Ruh roh RT @andystrickland: Told Zach Parise deciding between two teams #NHL

- nastyflyergirl

Pit and phi. Lol keep the Nasty rivalry going
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET

- FlyerMike18

x2
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Pit and phi. Lol keep the Nasty rivalry going
- griouxmvp2012


Philly and Min.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Holy inappropriate slave reference batman...
- Tomahawk


Well, more accurately, Holy Fictional Whipping Boy reference batman!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Salaries/cap hits are going up, but so is the upper limit.

$6 million next season is not the same as $6 million one or two seasons ago.

- bradleyc4



With the economy stalled, revenues won't be going up forever, especially with no new sweetheart TV deals on the horizon to boost the bottom line. Half the clubs are still essentially operating on a loss, and there's no shortage of clubs that would be insolvent without revenue sharing. Plus, the owners are looking to decrease players' share of revenue to as close to 50% as they can get it.

I would hesitate to say that the cap limit is going to go up much more in the near term.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Philly and Min.
- Flyers2821

Na he's like man I wanna play with Crosby but damn look at all this money Philly is giving me lol
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
Valid points. Homer must feel that he is worth the money or he wouldnt offer this kind of cash. Suter is a legit defenseman. All Star caliber. There arent many defenseman like Weber or Chara in this league. Suter is the next best thing behind those types of players on defense.
- stveshdy



That's why you bank the money at go hard after Weber next season, assuming he doesn't sign long term this summer.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Ruh roh RT @andystrickland: Told Zach Parise deciding between two teams #NHL

- nastyflyergirl


I really think it's Philly (money) and Minny (hometown).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
Philly or Minnesota.

He just recently got married in Minnesota and grew up there

- Flyers2821


But the Wild stink. You would think money being equal he would rather have a chance to win.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
That's why you bank the money at go hard after Weber next season, assuming he doesn't sign long term this summer.
- Tomahawk


No guarantee Weber becomes available. Right now Suter is available.

Flyers may not want to spend 10+M on a defenseman even if its Weber.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
But the Wild stink. You would think money being equal he would rather have a chance to win.
- PLindbergh31

Screw it sign parise and trade for Ryan we would have the sickest top line in the league
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
I really think it's Philly (money) and Minny (hometown).
- NickTheKid87



It's gotta be Nashville, and then one of the rest. Detroit is probably still his preferred destination if he jumps ship, and they have the cap space and desperation to make it happen.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
With the economy stalled, revenues won't be going up forever, especially with no new sweetheart TV deals on the horizon to boost the bottom line. Half the clubs are still essentially operating on a loss, and there's no shortage of clubs that would be insolvent without revenue sharing. Plus, the owners are looking to decrease players' share of revenue to as close to 50% as they can get it.

I would hesitate to say that the cap limit is going to go up much more in the near term.

- Tomahawk


I agree that the continued increase in the cap is likely to come to an end in the near future. But $6 million to a player in a $70 million cap is not the same as a $6 million player in a $54 million cap. Although, extending 12-year contracts in this financial climate is not too fiscally sound either. Thankfully, most of these GMs won't have to deal with the repercussions in a few years (they'll be fired by then).
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
I really think it's Philly (money) and Minny (hometown).
- NickTheKid87


I think it's Philly and Pittsburgh.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
I really think it's Philly (money) and Minny (hometown).
- NickTheKid87


If he signs with Pittsburgh or Philly he immediately becomes a villain with Devils fans. Does he want to do that?

I think Detroit makes the most sense for him.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Ruh roh RT @andystrickland: Told Zach Parise deciding between two teams #NHL

- nastyflyergirl


But he doesn't provide the two teams?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
But the Wild stink. You would think money being equal he would rather have a chance to win.
- PLindbergh31


right now they do, doesn't mean they always will. it's not like it's a one or two year deal
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
Dustin Leed‏@D_LEED

Ruh roh RT @andystrickland: Told Zach Parise deciding between two teams #NHL

- nastyflyergirl


Interesting. Funny how Zach called Dustin and let him know this.

"Dustin - I'm really torn between Pitt and Minnesota. What do you think? I can't decide. On the one hand, I get to play with my "friend", and I really like his family. On the other hand, I get to play near home".

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