How drunk are you guys on a scale of 1 to 10?
- daeth

Drunk enough to know it's bed time .....



Not drunk enough to think the Leafs are anything but TOTALLY FCUKED next year

I can tell you that yes, without a doubt, Bernier is better than Scrivens. One thing to look for in goalies - as unpredictable as that position is - is pedigree. Bernier has it.

I will also state uncatagorically that Riemer is better than Scrivens. Now, Riemer has proven he can play in the NHL, and he could be a capable goalie and certainly has the potential, in the right situation could be good. THat being said, if I was LA, I would have traded Quick and kept Bernier. Montreal made a similarly ballsy move a few years ago when they kept Price despite Halak having stolen his job in the playoffs. Too bad LA didnt have those balls.

If the Leafs can get Bernier without giving up too much (Kadri or Gardner) I think that is their best move.
- Jimmy_T

Did you just say youd rather trade quick and kept bernier you sir are INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE quick here dominated the league and playoffs your crazy haha Anywho i really think burke goes after bernier

The latest is two_for_truth.
- Feeling Glucky?

Luckily I haven't even noticed.

Are you implying my mother was a drunk unibrow?
- LeafsOwnHabs

See, this is where punctuation comes into play. I think you meant "drunk' unibrow" which would have a completely different meaning minus the " ' ".

Drunk enough to know it's bed time .....



Not drunk enough to think the Leafs are anything but TOTALLY FCUKED next year


- .HOHO.

The only 4 options im looking forward to for burke to make a push for in trades is chris stewart, bobby ryan, one of luongo or bernier. Other than that, nothing seems to be available unless burke knows something we all dont know.

Drunk enough to know it's bed time .....



Not drunk enough to think the Leafs are anything but TOTALLY FCUKED next year


- .HOHO.

You could pass out in your own vomit and still come to that conclusion though.

You could pass out in your own vomit and still come to that conclusion though.
- daeth

Never done that. Deadly.

Did you just say youd rather trade quick and kept bernier you sir are INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE quick here dominated the league and playoffs your crazy haha Anywho i really think burke goes after bernier
- Mapleleafs_91

Hey I know it sounds insane. But Quick has come out of nowhere. Until this year, he was considered a stop-gap until Bernier was ready. Now he is being paid like a future hall of famer. All things being equal - i e them playing in front of the same team - over a long period of time they are going to have pretty similar stats, so why not capitalize on his trade value and avoid paying your goalie a stupid amount of money on a roster already loaded with terrible contracts? Look, no one can critisize the Quick contract right now, b/c everything about LA is roses today, but their descision to do the easy thing will cost them in the long run.

See, this is where punctuation comes into play. I think you meant "drunk' unibrow" which would have a completely different meaning minus the " ' ".
- Tee-Dot

Are you implying my mother was a drunk unibrow?
- LeafsOwnHabs

It's one of several back-ground stories for you.

Haven't ruled out that tweakerdom or incest.

The only 4 options im looking forward to for burke to make a push for in trades is chris stewart, bobby ryan, one of luongo or bernier. Other than that, nothing seems to be available unless burke knows something we all dont know.
- Mapleleafs_91

I dont know man, it seems doubtful to me that the President and General Manager of the richest team in hockey knows something that you don't.

By the way, I think Burke did a fantstic signing today. Going over the scouting report made me really happy and I think this means the end of Steckel, who is the equivelent of having a player on a baseball roster who cant hit, or field but can run really fast.

It's one of several back-ground stories for you.

Haven't ruled out that tweakerdom or incest.
- Feeling Glucky?

It's one of several back-ground stories for you.

Haven't ruled out that tweakerdom or incest.
- Feeling Glucky?

Get it straight man...Incest is Sofakinggoler's issue. Besides calling me "mapes" isn't even being original. UG use to do the same thing when he couldn't think of anything creative to reply with.

I dont know man, it seems doubtful to me that the President and General Manager of the richest team in hockey knows something that you don't.

By the way, I think Burke did a fantstic signing today. Going over the scouting report made me really happy and I think this means the end of Steckel, who is the equivelent of having a player on a baseball roster who cant hit, or field but can run really fast.
- Jimmy_T

Nope.... Steckel will be our 3rd line center... McClement will be our 3rd... and honestly thats fine.

Steckel wins draws and is good on the PK.... adding in 15 to 20 points isnt that bad either for a guy who plays 7 minutes a game

Carlyle loves having a solid 4th line and a good 3rd shutdown line. I personally want the leaves to grab Taylor Pyatt on a 1 year deal worth 1.5M

MacArthur - McClement - Frattin
Pyatt - Steckel - Brown

Nope.... Steckel will be our 3rd line center... McClement will be our 3rd... and honestly thats fine.

Steckel wins draws and is good on the PK.... adding in 15 to 20 points isnt that bad either for a guy who plays 7 minutes a game

Carlyle loves having a solid 4th line and a good 3rd shutdown line. I personally want the leaves to grab Taylor Pyatt on a 1 year deal worth 1.5M

MacArthur - McClement - Frattin
Pyatt - Steckel - Brown
- cor99

come again?

come again?
- Feeling Glucky?

Okay...but can you tell your mom to take her dentures out this time?

come again?
- Feeling Glucky?

Wouldn't mind taking a gamble on Semin. A one year deal for 4/5 million. Play him with Grabo maybe and see if they click. Someone mentioned Pyatt who i think would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Kessel- JVR - Lupul
Semin- Grabo - Kadri
Kuli- McClement-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Pyatt

Now if Burke can get rid of Mac,Lombardi,Komi and get back anything of even the smallest value (draft picks etc...) we will be slowly progressing.

Taking on Semin would be a risk, but in my opinion its a risk worth taking

come again?
- Feeling Glucky?

it's 130 and i;ve had some drinks.... cut me some slack?

I meant Steckel will be our 4th

Wouldn't mind taking a gamble on Semin. A one year deal for 4/5 million. Play him with Grabo maybe and see if they click. Someone mentioned Pyatt who i think would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Kessel- JVR - Lupul
Semin- Grabo - Kadri
Kuli- McClement-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Pyatt

Now if Burke can get rid of Mac,Lombardi,Komi and get back anything of even the smallest value (draft picks etc...) we will be slowly progressing.

Taking on Semin would be a risk, but in my opinion its a risk worth taking
- Sundin113

Not! Semin is no fit for this team. We have to have a team that goes to bed mean and wakes up meaner. I still think that Burke has something brewing and it may be for another top 6 forward. Lets hope that it's a centre for the first line. Maybe it's time to go fishing in Colorado, where they seem to have 3 top 6 centres. We can afford to send a Kulimen, Kadri and a defenceman(not Gardiner) the other way. I'd even do Kessel, even up, for Stastny. Then we could fill the top 6 with another winger, through trade. Time to buck up Burke, and fill that #1 center hole.

Wouldn't mind taking a gamble on Semin. A one year deal for 4/5 million. Play him with Grabo maybe and see if they click. Someone mentioned Pyatt who i think would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Kessel- JVR - Lupul
Semin- Grabo - Kadri
Kuli- McClement-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Pyatt

Now if Burke can get rid of Mac,Lombardi,Komi and get back anything of even the smallest value (draft picks etc...) we will be slowly progressing.

Taking on Semin would be a risk, but in my opinion its a risk worth taking
- Sundin113

Honestly on a one year contract I would bite too. He'll get a huge offer in Russia and will laugh at any 1 year deal here though. He's not exactly a winner.

edit: Wait.. that means he should sign here?

Wouldn't mind taking a gamble on Semin. A one year deal for 4/5 million. Play him with Grabo maybe and see if they click. Someone mentioned Pyatt who i think would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Kessel- JVR - Lupul
Semin- Grabo - Kadri
Kuli- McClement-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Pyatt

Now if Burke can get rid of Mac,Lombardi,Komi and get back anything of even the smallest value (draft picks etc...) we will be slowly progressing.

Taking on Semin would be a risk, but in my opinion its a risk worth taking
- Sundin113

If Semin can't make it work in Washington with Ovechkin, what are the odds he can make it work in Toronto with Grabovski?

Semin is looking for a pay day. Not to redeem himself.

Wouldn't mind taking a gamble on Semin. A one year deal for 4/5 million. Play him with Grabo maybe and see if they click. Someone mentioned Pyatt who i think would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Kessel- JVR - Lupul
Semin- Grabo - Kadri
Kuli- McClement-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Pyatt

Now if Burke can get rid of Mac,Lombardi,Komi and get back anything of even the smallest value (draft picks etc...) we will be slowly progressing.

Taking on Semin would be a risk, but in my opinion its a risk worth taking
- Sundin113

Too soft he needs a guy like Ovi, Ryan, Nash or Stewart playing on the wing. Or someone like Getzlaf/Malkin in the middle. He needs SIZE to open up the possiblilites of finishing or being able to Cycle. The closest thing would be JVR which means you have Bozie on line 1/1AB/2 between Kessel and Lups again.

Not saying Semin is a bad idea, but just saying the roster you have suggested doesn't make sense if you don't have JVR slotted with him and Grabo which then probably makes a first line over the Bozie line.

What the hell does getting rid of Mac for little value do for the team? He's a fanatasic depth player and playing on the third line with McClement/Steckel with Kuli on the wing would be a nice looking shutdown line with some scoring, or having a 4th line with more grit.

With Frattin in the mix this makes things... complicated. Frattin > Mac eventually but... if the team is that confident in Frattin I can see one of two things happening:

He splits time all over the roster
He's a third liner with Specialty Teams time on PK/PP.

Works for me. And don't forget Kamarov. If you want Semin to play well and without compliant, you keep a good group or Russians (Speaking) on the team.

Get it straight man...Incest is Sofakinggoler's issue. Besides calling me "mapes" isn't even being original. UG use to do the same thing when he couldn't think of anything creative to reply with.
- LeafsOwnHabs

Phuq yew, ball chin boy...

I can tell you that yes, without a doubt, Bernier is better than Scrivens. One thing to look for in goalies - as unpredictable as that position is - is pedigree. Bernier has it.

I will also state uncatagorically that Riemer is better than Scrivens. Now, Riemer has proven he can play in the NHL, and he could be a capable goalie and certainly has the potential, in the right situation could be good. THat being said, if I was LA, I would have traded Quick and kept Bernier. Montreal made a similarly ballsy move a few years ago when they kept Price despite Halak having stolen his job in the playoffs. Too bad LA didnt have those balls.

If the Leafs can get Bernier without giving up too much (Kadri or Gardner) I think that is their best move.
- Jimmy_T

You can't tell me that, but that doesn't mean it's not the case. Know what I mean? neither has proved anything in a starters position. And if you want to use that then Reimer has proved himself in a small sampling that he is a starter. So why spend assets on a 'maybe'? like I said we tried that already on two promising goaltenders in Toskala & Raycroft. Hindsight is 20/20, but at the time they were both back up ready for a starter position. Just saying, he will probably be good, but save the assets and get a vet, not a maybe.

Bernier never outplayed Quick in the playoffs so that comparison doesn't work. And Quick is arguably the best goalie in the league right now, and if he isn't he's up there with Lunqvist. Bernier? not quite. There is no question who LA is keeping and their 10 year contract proves that.

In the end, you will not get Bernier without giving up something of magnitude, so yes it will cost Gardiner or Kadri +. See what I'm getting at? Is Bernier really worth losing those assets for someone who might be better than what we already have?