lol stafford and ennis for ryan!? WTF? we lose 2 of are players that will be top 5 in pts next season?

Ryan = overrated by EVERYONE here. I like the guy but he ain't worth both

All of this is hypothetical
- sabrebuzz8

3rd line minutes in Vancouver isn't the same thing as third line with that lineup. He'd still be getting a lot more ice.

3rd line minutes in Vancouver isn't the same thing as third line with that lineup. He'd still be getting a lot more ice.
- nfph

They get about 15 in Vancouver I don't think he'd get that much more here if he was on the 3rd line.

They get about 15 in Vancouver I don't think he'd get that much more here if he was on the 3rd line.
- sabrebuzz8

He averaged 13:49 last season, including his time with the Sabres. His last 5 games of the year he approached 20 mins twice and his lowest was 16:48 against Boston, while ostensibly being our third line center.

He averaged 13:49 last season, including his time with the Sabres. His last 5 games of the year he approached 20 mins twice and his lowest was 16:48 against Boston, while ostensibly being our third line center.
- nfph

with the top 9 players we have i think the only difference in ice time should be special teams and riding hot streaks.

He averaged 13:49 last season, including his time with the Sabres. His last 5 games of the year he approached 20 mins twice and his lowest was 16:48 against Boston, while ostensibly being our third line center.
- nfph

With the line up we currently have I agree but my earlier posts were referencing a line up where we have Doan Ryan Pominville and Vanek in our top 6. I would hope Ruff wouldn't distribute the ice time as evenly with that team.

Well when I (frank) up the difference between Kovalchuck and Ovechkin please call me out on it... but if you are really gonna choose your battles on the household name likliness of f'n John Scott.... your life is pretty small..\

I even brought up John Scott a few weeks back about him and McGrattan because they are both small time but underrated goons.. but I got laughed out of the bar for even bringing up those names...

for (frank) sake man... with age you are supposed to acquire wisdom not self-righteousness.

I'm out of here... hopefully everyone got their b!tching out of their system this weekend because that is all anyone has done since TextingSources has come on here.. or we all ate b!tch fillets for dinner. I've never even gotten into an argument with you either DD.
- JVince11

Can't we all just get alo...

Oh wait, he's dead.

Carry on-

Wow. I go to bed at 11:30 and wake up to see this went until 3:00 AM

Wow. I go to bed at 11:30 and wake up to see this went until 3:00 AM
- The_Inkwell

lulz.

lol stafford and ennis for ryan!? WTF? we lose 2 of are players that will be top 5 in pts next season?

Ryan = overrated by EVERYONE here. I like the guy but he ain't worth both
- Smittyx36

I agree! I wouldn't even do Ennis for him straight up...

I agree! I wouldn't even do Ennis for him straight up...
- Cup Crazy '07

Ennis for Ryan is more then fair, people over value our players just like Darcy does.

...outside of losing a center, Ennis for Ryan straight up is a win for Buffalo all day long.

Ennis for Ryan is more then fair, people over value our players just like Darcy does.
- SABRES 89

...was just about to put this as well. Good lord people talk about overhyping other teams players, we do that to our own badly. If Ennis didn't get switched to center and go on that tear at the end of the season I doubt anyone would be saying no.

...was just about to put this as well. Good lord people talk about overhyping other teams players, we do that to our own badly. If Ennis didn't get switched to center and go on that tear at the end of the season I doubt anyone would be saying no.
- twistedwrister9

Another reason why we are stuck, overvalue of players with this team. If these guys were so great we would have a cup already, this team is to damm small and get the crap kicked out of them. Ennis I would move without question for Ryan, I would even add a pick or lower end player and I don't care who Ryan plays with on his line with the Ducks.

Radulov signs 4 year deal with CSKA of the KHL

Another reason why we are stuck, overvalue of players with this team. If these guys were so great we would have a cup already, this team is to damm small and get the crap kicked out of them. Ennis I would move without question for Ryan, I would even add a pick or lower end player and I don't care who Ryan plays with on his line with the Ducks.
- SABRES 89

The only reason I wouldn't is because Ennis is now a center. If you start moving centers for wingers, unless it's a player you are absolutely looking to dump (i.e. Roy, who would never be a return for Ryan anyway) you end up with the same problem the Sabres had last year. Moving Ennis isn't a bad idea in of itself, but you have to bolster the center position even more if you are going to do it. Grigorenko is not proven enough to be relied on yet.

Radulov signs 4 year deal with CSKA of the KHL
- EricNearBuffalo

Ha, it was nice to have ya back Rads....

Ha, it was nice to have ya back Rads....
- Fotes18

i'm guessing the KHL and its teams are probably a little more lenient

...outside of losing a center, Ennis for Ryan straight up is a win for Buffalo all day long.
- twistedwrister9

Stafford, Sekera/Pysyk, and either a 1st or Adam.

That would be my final offer for Ryan..

Trading any center for a winger that isn't named Roy just creates problems in our lineups... And I would trade Hodgson before I trade Ennis.

if Grigs isn't NHL ready this year every line up of ours is shot to sh!t because the lack of depth.

The only reason I wouldn't is because Ennis is now a center. If you start moving centers for wingers, unless it's a player you are absolutely looking to dump (i.e. Roy, who would never be a return for Ryan anyway) you end up with the same problem the Sabres had last year. Moving Ennis isn't a bad idea in of itself, but you have to bolster the center position even more if you are going to do it. Grigorenko is not proven enough to be relied on yet.
- buffalofan19

Ennis and Stafford right now have to have their highest trade value after the extremely strong end of the season campaign last year...

Marty Brodeur returns to the Devils at 2 year/9M... I didn't see it in here.

Another reason why we are stuck, overvalue of players with this team. If these guys were so great we would have a cup already, this team is to damm small and get the crap kicked out of them. Ennis I would move without question for Ryan, I would even add a pick or lower end player and I don't care who Ryan plays with on his line with the Ducks.
- SABRES 89

I think if we wanted to get Ryan for Ennis, we would have to add a upper end prospect in and maybe something else.

Ryan for Ennis, Weber and Adam? Both Weber and Adam seem to have lost their spots for the foreseeable future, but trading two centers away eliminates the recently gained center depth. If you are going to trade Ennis, you better be sure Grigerenko can play this year.

I think if we wanted to get Ryan for Ennis, we would have to add a upper end prospect in and maybe something else.

Ryan for Ennis, Weber and Adam? Both Weber and Adam seem to have lost their spots for the foreseeable future, but trading two centers away eliminates the recently gained center depth. If you are going to trade Ennis, you better be sure Grigerenko can play this year.
- Zeebadaboodee

THIS!... is what I've been saying lately.

Another reason why we are stuck, overvalue of players with this team. If these guys were so great we would have a cup already, this team is to damm small and get the crap kicked out of them. Ennis I would move without question for Ryan, I would even add a pick or lower end player and I don't care who Ryan plays with on his line with the Ducks.
- SABRES 89

Ennis, sekera and a pick

I would go there and keep roy for the year

yep I said it, keep roy

Ennis, sekera and a pick

I would go there and keep roy for the year

yep I said it, keep roy
- homiedclown

Roy is best as a 2C... and him in a contract year could be appealing to have... around the trade deadline this year he was playing really good hockey.

As long as we have a better option at 1C.. and Roy realizes his role.. he is fine.. if he can truly return to form after that injury almost 2 years later.. he is still a 65+ point center.