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Forums :: Blog World :: Todd Cordell: New Jersey Devils NHL Free Agency Blog: Zach Parise, Martin Brodeur, et All
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_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
Gustavsson to Detriot.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
Gustavsson to Detriot.
- _Zippy_


NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
Going to suck if he leaves. Can't replace him and our team is going to take a huge blow.
- zach parise9



For sure. And hes going to take all day to decide if not until tommorow...leaving us with are Richard in our hands and nothing else while everyone else signs.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:36 PM ET
For sure. And hes going to take all day to decide if not until tommorow...leaving us with are Richard in our hands and nothing else while everyone else signs.
- NickA


Which is why Lou needs to make his one pitch and only one pitch. Lou doesn't have the luxury of going back and forth with him. If he wanted to be here as much as he says he does, they the back and forth wouldn't have to occur. Lou knows what the finances are what he can offer, Zach knows this.

This is unfortunate, but Lou needs to avoid being left at the altar at all costs. Put together a competitive team. They'll still make the playoffs without #9.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:40 PM ET
Which is why Lou needs to make his one pitch and only one pitch. Lou doesn't have the luxury of going back and forth with him. If he wanted to be here as much as he says he does, they the back and forth wouldn't have to occur. Lou knows what the finances are what he can offer, Zach knows this.

This is unfortunate, but Lou needs to avoid being left at the altar at all costs. Put together a competitive team.

- FLdevilsFAN
They'll still make the playoffs
without #9.



Idk we will be losing
It appears Parise, Salvador, Sykora, Ponikarovsky, Brodeur and Hedberg will all test free agency. If none of them re-sign, the Devils lose a top-4 defenseman, two third line wingers, both of their goaltenders and their Captain.


Can't see how we can replace any of that with the FA's available and a trade will cost too much.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:47 PM ET
Idk we will be losing

Can't see how we can replace any of that with the FA's available and a trade will cost too much.

- NickA


Have faith, they've done it before. 3rd liners can be replaced. The biggest loss is Zach and that's it. Marty had a hell of a post-season run, but his regular season is easily replaceable. NJ has a plethora of defensive prospects and while I personally want them to retain Salvador, it's not the end of the world.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Have faith, they've done it before. 3rd liners can be replaced. The biggest loss is Zach and that's it. Marty had a hell of a post-season run, but his regular season is easily replaceable. NJ has a plethora of defensive prospects and while I personally want them to retain Salvador, it's not the end of the world.
- FLdevilsFAN



Your right but the loss of Zach is a big loss lets not kid ourselves here. Yeah he may not be the dominating force that other top players are but he still very very good. Hes irreplaceable.
Edit: And unless we make a trade there are no goalies out there that even come close to what Marty will bring except Moose and hes not a sure fire bet.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
Idk we will be losing

Can't see how we can replace any of that with the FA's available and a trade will cost too much.

- NickA


All the good options are slowly slipping away to other teams. Lou needs to hopefully decide soon, or tell Parise a deadline.

Right now, our top six has Kovalchuk, Zajac, Elias, Henrique, Clarkson, and Zubrus. Our bottom six right now then would be Josefson, Gionta, Carter, Bernier, Tedenby/Pesonen etc., and Janssen.

I still think we'd be fine with our current forward situation, but Parise would make it a lot better. We aren't doing anything until Parise decides, which sucks.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:05 PM ET
Latendresse, Armstrong, all these cheap affordable guys are gone.

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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:06 PM ET
Your right but the loss of Zach is a big loss lets not kid ourselves here. Yeah he may not be the dominating force that other top players are but he still very very good. Hes irreplaceable.
Edit: And unless we make a trade there are no goalies out there that even come close to what Marty will bring except Moose and hes not a sure fire bet.

- NickA


2.41 GAA (15th)
.908 SV% (33rd)

It's not that big of a loss on ice. It's more of dip in morale.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
coal in our stocking
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Parise's agent said no decision until Tuesday. Wahoo, we can watch free agents get signed left and right waiting for ZP.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
coal in our stocking
- MartysBetter88


We've had coal in our stocking many times before.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
Parise's agent said no decision until Tuesday. Wahoo, we can watch free agents get signed left and right waiting for ZP.
- _Zippy_



FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
Ya know what, screw that noise. He's not curing cancer. He's playing hockey. (frank) Parise.

Captain Kovy til I die.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
Ya know what, screw that noise. He's not curing cancer. He's playing hockey. (frank) Parise.

Captain Kovy til I die.

- FLdevilsFAN




FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:37 PM ET
If Parise to Pitt is true along with this "I want $24M up front" then I think we can all say safely that Parise is a tool.

All this "he doesnt want to be second fiddle to Kovy" poop goes out the window, he'll be the 3rd wheel. He'll be...Chris Bosh.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:37 PM ET
If Parise to Pitt is true along with this "I want $24M up front" then I think we can all say safely that Parise is a tool.

All this "he doesnt want to be second fiddle to Kovy" poop goes out the window, he'll be the 3rd wheel. He'll be...Chris Bosh.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 1 @ 3:39 PM ET
If Parise to Pitt is true along with this "I want $24M up front" then I think we can all say safely that Parise is a tool.

All this "he doesnt want to be second fiddle to Kovy" poop goes out the window, he'll be the 3rd wheel. He'll be...Chris Bosh.

- FLdevilsFAN


I don't think he's a tool. He most likely wants a cup, like we have known for a while, and its almost certain that if sid can stay healthy he'll get another one. He's also just getting maximum value. Nothing wrong with that.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:42 PM ET
I don't think he's a tool. He most likely wants a cup, like we have known for a while, and its almost certain that if sid can stay healthy he'll get another one. He's also just getting maximum value. Nothing wrong with that.
- rmdevil313


I disagree. This type of poop is why i no longer watch the NBA. I'd hate to have to stop watching hockey.

Garbage.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
I disagree. This type of poop is why i no longer watch the NBA. I'd hate to have to stop watching hockey.

Garbage.

- FLdevilsFAN


To be honest, the Pens have had great management. They've made great trades, got their core players on good contracts, and have some good prospect depth. They made 2 great moves to open up the cap space for this.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 1 @ 3:51 PM ET
To compare this to the heat is pretty unfair. James, Bosh, and Wade probably would have won a championship regardless of without good support players. Beyond Parise, Crosby, Malkin, they still have Neal, Kunitz, Sutter, Letang, Orpik, Fleury. They are very well rounded.
Xnightwish
New Jersey Devils
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 12.12.2011

Jul 1 @ 3:53 PM ET
lou needs to just give up on parise and brodeur and make some moves like...now...parise is gonna chase the money (can't really fault him for that besides the crap he spewed about loving his team and yadda yadda yadda) and marty has already decided on staying or going...make a move already lou
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
To be honest, the Pens have had great management. They've made great trades, got their core players on good contracts, and have some good prospect depth. They made 2 great moves to open up the cap space for this.
- rmdevil313


How is that, oh I know it's " lets tank for 5yrs straight and get 5 stars" (kind of like Edmonton is doing now). It worked for them before when they tanked (Lemiuex and Jagr) so it will work again (Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Staal, Fluery etc etc). As for teams like the Devils and Detroit, they have to do it the hard way. Draft smart and make good trades and FA signings....too bad we can't suck for 5yrs straight and rebuild like that
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
How is that, oh I know it's " lets tank for 5yrs straight and get 5 stars" (kind of like Edmonton is doing now). It worked for them before when they tanked (Lemiuex and Jagr) so it will work again (Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Staal, Fluery etc etc). As for teams like the Devils and Detroit, they have to do it the hard way. Draft smart and make good trades and FA signings....too bad we can't suck for 5yrs straight and rebuild like that
- Gambi99


Actually, the tanking from 82-92 was what propelled the Devils to this run from 95-2003. Shanahan, and subsequently Stevens, and Niedermeyer will both high picks. Same with Detroit and Lidstrom/Yzerman were high picks. Both teams just sustained a core around those players.
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