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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
Who has won more Stanley Cups as an NHL Executive Holmgren and Clarke combined or a random HockeyBuzz poster?
- PLindbergh31

is this a trick question
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
and other than your say-so where's your actual evidence?
- JoeRussomanno


Watch em play.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
didn't clarke put together a Minnesota team that won a cup?
- JoeRussomanno


I think that Minnesota team fell a tad short against the Penguins. I think they lost game 7 2-1 in eight overtimes.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:40 PM ET
Watch em play.
- Flyers2821

well I DID watch Carter go and catch fire after a dreary season with Nash to win a cup. That's not exactly helping your case.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
Let's not pretend that we know who the Flyers have made offers to, or who they are interested in. It's Free Agency. Players choose what offers to accept.
- MJL


100 percent accurate.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
I think that Minnesota team fell a tad short against the Penguins. I think they lost game 7 2-1 in eight overtimes.
- PLindbergh31

don't know why I keep thinking they won one.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
well I DID watch Carter go and catch fire after a dreary season with Nash to win a cup. That's not exactly helping your case.
- JoeRussomanno


Please, make your case that Carter is better than either Giroux or Parise.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
Who has won more Stanley Cups as an NHL Executive Holmgren and Clarke combined or a random HockeyBuzz poster?
- PLindbergh31


Well since the random Hockeybuzz poster hasn't had the job, and had their decisions second guessed, and Monday morning quarterbacked. That question is moot!


But hey, let's go with the random Hockeybuzz poster to make decisions for the Flyers. Because Holmgren and Clarke haven't won the Cup, and the posters know better!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
don't know why I keep thinking they won one.
- JoeRussomanno


It's ok Joe. It was 20+ years ago.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
Now that Parise and Suter are looking to sign elsewhere lets see if we can reach out to Carle and his $6M a year deal.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
Please, make your case that Carter is better than either Giroux or Parise.
- Flyers2821

Never said they were better you did by saying they were MUCH better and cannot back it up other than "because i SAY so" and "watch em play" when all I'm saying is they are comparable and that's all that matters.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
Well since the random Hockeybuzz poster hasn't had the job, and had their decisions second guessed, and Monday morning quarterbacked. That the question is moot!


But hey, let's go with the random Hockeybuzz poster to make decisions for the Flyers. Because Holmgren and Clarke haven't won the Cup, and the posters know better!

- MJL


So Holmgren and Clarke are tied with 0, while having 25+ more chances.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
Never said they were better you did by saying they were MUCH better and cannot back it up other than "because i SAY so" and "watch em play" when all I'm saying is they are comparable and that's all that matters.
- JoeRussomanno


You watch them play and it is very clear Giroux and Parise are much better and more complete players than Jeff Carter. Not even sure why I am bothering to argue this with you..

Not to mention the comparison is ridiculous because when Carter went to play with Nash it was widely speculated that they would not have chemistry because neither of them are the playmaker type and both are goal scorers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
Now that Parise and Suter are looking to sign elsewhere lets see if we can reach out to Carle and his $6M a year deal.


- stveshdy



It's like that old anti Drug campaign. Just say No!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
Now that Parise and Suter are looking to sign elsewhere lets see if we can reach out to Carle and his $6M a year deal.


- stveshdy

Carle and 6 mill just dont add up
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:45 PM ET
It's like that old anti Drug campaign. Just say No!
- MJL


Did Salvador sign anywhere yet? I really wouldnt mind the Flyers signing him for one season to be on their third pairing if Carle walks.

Will load up next summer for Weber, Edler, or Enstrom.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:46 PM ET
So Holmgren and Clarke are tied with 0, while having 25+ more chances.
- PLindbergh31


You have to earn that chance, and also have the qualifications for it.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:46 PM ET
Bryan Allen to Ducks 3.5M per X 3yrs
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 5:46 PM ET
Flyers are too quiet, with all the role-player signings going on. I'm not saying they end up with Parise/Suter/Nash, but they sure seem poised to make a serious run at one or more of them...
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
Carle and 6 mill just dont add up
- vejim


Bingo. I wouldnt spend more than $5.25 and thats the max. I would be willing to go. Not sure im comfortable with that number either.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
Now that Parise and Suter are looking to sign elsewhere lets see if we can reach out to Carle and his $6M a year deal.


- stveshdy


And everyone will come out of the woodwork and say they would rather have Carle at 6 million, than Suter at 7 million.

What happened to the handshake deal, and Carle wanting to stay with the Flyers are below market value? It appears it went up in smoke with the Wideman deal. Never underestimate the greed of a professional athlete, their goal is to ring every last penny out of a franchise.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
You watch them play and it is very clear Giroux and Parise are much better and more complete players than Jeff Carter. Not even sure why I am bothering to argue this with you..
- Flyers2821

Okay then how so? do they skate better, score more, what? You can't sit here and say they are MUCH better without any sufficient data other than I watch em and say so. Carter and Nash are elite players whether you like them or not. I personally am glad they traded Jeff Carter but he is an elite player. He has his name on the cup and deservedly so even if in a secondary role, he came up big when needed. Furthermore he has multiple consecutive seasons of 30+goals one of which he tallied 40. you don't put up those kinds of numbers in the NHL due to Mediocrity. As for Nash I hear constantly on this board how the Flyers have to go through hell and high water to get him. They are not as good but in the same class that's for sure.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
Supposedly Parise is going to sleep on his decision until tomorrow

I guess signing with Pitt may have to wait one day
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
And everyone will come out of the woodwork and say they would rather have Carle at 6 million, than Suter at 7 million.

What happened to the handshake deal, and Carle wanting to stay with the Flyers are below market value? It appears it went up in smoke with the Wideman deal. Never underestimate the greed of a professional athlete, their goal is to ring every last penny out of a franchise.

- PLindbergh31


How is it greed? Don't you want to make as much money was you can?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
The board seems bored.

Heat grtting to everyone.

Time to chill and let chips fall where they may.
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