Well he's gotten rid of 1/3 of the dead weight. And IMO, he should be focusing on getting rid of the other 2/3 rather than waste his time with trades or UFA signings.

And I'd rather our third line this year be the kid line:

Frattin - Colborne - Kadri
- Pen15

WHy would Kadri be on a third line? This is a kid with some of the best hands and passing skills in the NHL. I just do not by the narrative that this kid is a failure. I do not know why Leafs fans eat their own with such a complete lack of perspective. Last year he really took his game to a new level on the Marlies, backchecking, playing without the puck etc. I think he could be a very pleasant suprise this year and be part of the most talented tops six forwards the Leafs have had in decades - Kessel, Lupul, Jvr, Kadri, Graobb, ?

Also, Colborne is starting the year in the minors, no matter what and the expectations for Matt Frattin are completly unrealistic. He projects as a 20 goal third liner at best.

He never was. Only desperate madmen think he's a center.
- A_Tree

He'll do fine. Who knows? Maybe Lupul will be moved...who knows what he'll be asking for next year? Cripes, even Kessel. Ugh, it might be real ugly in a couple years.

Oh hell need protection the way he plays...think Ruutu..hit you and laugh as u get retaliation penalty.. a pain the ass, basically an element leafs havent had for a while.
- Leafsrulesens

dont get me wrong i want him if he can be a pain in the ass but i would rather they sign konopka instead of prust

komarov konopka brown

that'll piss ppl of

What is wrong with Orr?
- maverickJ

He sucks.

And can barely skate.

WHy would Kadri be on a third line? This is a kid with some of the best hands and passing skills in the NHL. I just do not by the narrative that this kid is a failure. I do not know why Leafs fans eat their own with such a complete lack of perspective. Last year he really took his game to a new level on the Marlies, backchecking, playing without the puck etc. I think he could be a very pleasant suprise this year and be part of the most talented tops six forwards the Leafs have had in decades - Kessel, Lupul, Jvr, Kadri, Graobb, ?

Also, Colborne is starting the year in the minors, no matter what and the expectations for Matt Frattin are completly unrealistic. He projects as a 20 goal third liner at best.
- Jimmy_T

Still drinking?

What is wrong with Orr?
- maverickJ

Malicious disease called "Cannotplayitis". Can't have him fraternizing with the team, it's contagious.

He'll do fine. Who knows? Maybe Lupul will be moved...who knows what he'll be asking for next year? Cripes, even Kessel. Ugh, it might be real ugly in a couple years.
- weirdoh

Yup, imagine we lost kessel to FA.. wow that kessel trade would become historically bad

Kypreos saying Parise is gonna do the whole Newport come do presentations in Toronto thing...Damn you Don Meehan you brilliant bastard...next hell find a way to have them sponsored and justhave a Canada Day event with all his clients, tsn broadcasting live...
- Leafsrulesens

Yup, Bobby Mac tweeted that as well. But he'll meet with Lou one more time today.

What is wrong with Orr?
- maverickJ

Parros ended Orr's career...Orr's a punching bag... He got knocked out cold a couple of times and that was it.. Burke wouldnt have done that whole PC if he was ever planning on callin him back up. If he recalls him maybe someone will take him, but Parros knocked Orr out, who would you rather protecting your team

He'll do fine. Who knows? Maybe Lupul will be moved...who knows what he'll be asking for next year? Cripes, even Kessel. Ugh, it might be real ugly in a couple years.
- weirdoh

I don't think they will go overboard, plus with the extra cap room it won't be all bad. I can see 6 mill per year because of the Grabvoski thing which is gross but affordable.

Yup, imagine we lost kessel to FA.. wow that kessel trade would become historically bad
- peddy-93

Yup

You would hope....but who knows with incompetent regime.
- Fakepartofme

Incompetent regime? LOL Larry. I just cannot look at this roster, the youth, the potential and do anything but marvel at the fantastic job Burke has done, especially when fans of the team say things like this and actually believe them.

I mean, JVR for Luke Schenn? Luke "what is a puck" Schenn? They should call him Brian "NHL '12" Burke beause all of his trades seem fake, they are so ridiculously lopsided.

2 completely different players...someone like TooToo would take time from someone like D'amigo whos ready or Frattin.. Hes a guy you hope can play on 3rd line...Parros is a fighter, hes one of the best too. Just having him makes the rest of the team 6" taller....and he went to Princeton hah
- Leafsrulesens

Plus imagine all the moustache wars he can have with Brown.....

James Mirtle‏@mirtle

Somewhere, Ron Wilson is pointing out how good the Leafs record was with Armstrong in the lineup.

He never was. Only desperate madmen think he's a center.
- A_Tree

JVR slots on the second line nicely. He gives Grabovski room to manuver, thanks to his large frame. If the Leafs can find another go to the net type, for the second line, that 2nd line could be a very effective weapon. Add a decent 1st line centre, for Kessel and Lupul, preference with size, and there is the makings of a good one two punch. The third line would be very good too, with Kulimen, Bozak and Frattin. That would constitute the trading of MacArthur and Kadri, plus a defenceman and a prospect. That would be the pieces needed to either grab a centre or another top 6 winger. Now can Burke make these moves, without gutting what he already has?

He'll do fine. Who knows? Maybe Lupul will be moved...who knows what he'll be asking for next year? Cripes, even Kessel. Ugh, it might be real ugly in a couple years.
- weirdoh

Lupul seems like he'd be okay with a reasonable pay raise if his play continues at his '11-'12 season pace (which he'd deserve IMO).

Kessels' probably too nervous to ask for more money. He doesn't want Burke to grill him. I mean grill most literally.

Parros ended Orr's career...Orr's a punching bag... He got knocked out cold a couple of times and that was it.. Burke wouldnt have done that whole PC if he was ever planning on callin him back up. If he recalls him maybe someone will take him, but Parros knocked Orr out, who would you rather protecting your team
- Leafsrulesens

I didn't think Orr was punchdrunk I knew he had that one bad concussion but figured he recovered. Still your making it seem as if Orr is softy, he was one of the toughest fighters in the league. I'd rather have both personally

dont get me wrong i want him if he can be a pain in the ass but i would rather they sign konopka instead of prust

komarov konopka brown

that'll piss ppl of
- Blindfatkid

Dont ever say that name around here hahahhaha. nah konopka has said some bad things about Toronto, dont think youll see him signing here haha. Hes a good faceoff guy tho, but meh, i hate his face

Incompetent regime? LOL Larry. I just cannot look at this roster, the youth, the potential and do anything but marvel at the fantastic job Burke has done, especially when fans of the team say things like this and actually believe them.

I mean, JVR for Luke Schenn? Luke "what is a puck" Schenn? They should call him Brian "NHL '12" Burke beause all of his trades seem fake, they are so ridiculously lopsided.
- Jimmy_T

This is what's wrong with the majority of leafs fans....they say they want a real rebuild but have zero patience to let a stay-at-home dman develop. He won't be near his potential for another 2 maybe 3 years.

He's 23 and people think he should be logging 22+ minutes a night.

I don't think they will go overboard, plus with the extra cap room it won't be all bad. I can see 6 mill per year because of the Grabvoski thing which is gross but affordable.
- maverickJ

It's a risk/reward thing I guess. They'll have to see Lupul put another season up like he did last year. Him and Kessel were the lone bright spots for the Leafs, Gardiner was a nice surprise but not on the level of Kessel and Lupul. They needed each other which was pretty evident when Lupul went down but credit Kessel to keep the ppg pace up. I don't buy this bs that the coach and Lupul hate each other. They're grown men and I highly doubt they'd let that ruin the product on the ice. I'm sure Burke would even tell Carlyle to stop (frank)ing with the lines and put Lupul back if something happened.

Incompetent regime? LOL Larry. I just cannot look at this roster, the youth, the potential and do anything but marvel at the fantastic job Burke has done, especially when fans of the team say things like this and actually believe them.

I mean, JVR for Luke Schenn? Luke "what is a puck" Schenn? They should call him Brian "NHL '12" Burke beause all of his trades seem fake, they are so ridiculously lopsided.
- Jimmy_T

ya there is a reason holmgren traded jvr for schenn

What is wrong with Orr?
- maverickJ

He was concussed first of all......Parros would be a better option in that role. He can actually hold a hockey stick properly.

I have to disagree. I am not in any way sold on Colborne. I have a feeling he'll never be an NHL top-6. i could be wrong, but I think they should package him in a deal now while he still has some prospect value.

If things work out well and we're able to snag a #1C & the likes of Shane Doan, I'd like a 2nd & 3rd line of

JVR Grabo Doan
Kulemin Bozak Frattin
- Phenom

WHile I agree Doan is a nice fit, Colborne played much of last year with a wrist injury. HIs mixture of size and skill is extremely rare. I do believe that eventualy he will be an NHL player. Trading him would be so dumb.

WHile I agree Doan is a nice fit, Colborne played much of last year with a wrist injury. HIs mixture of size and skill is extremely rare. I do believe that eventualy he will be an NHL player. Trading him would be so dumb.
- Jimmy_T

doan (if he hits the market) will sign close to home

Class act wish him the best. Hearing Burke wants to use that money on Prust...