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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 5:06 PM ET
I can't see him turning to poop. But you're right it's a risk. But a risk a GM who needs to knock one out of the park should take.
- weirdoh

Assuming Parise would come here for 8M per...you definitely make that signing. Unfortunately we'll likely be looking at Prust and some other role players filling in that 8 mill.


Though I'd be glad with Doan and Jokinen on short term, high-price contracts.
WayneStatic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Death Valley Junction, ON
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:07 PM ET
"Leafs out of the running"...The official motto of the NHL free agency period...
- Flyfreaky


Connolly to the flyers for the rights to mike rathje,,,,E2
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:07 PM ET
And Suter, and Brodeur.
- Feeling Glucky?

Imagine all the assists Brodeur would rack up dishing the puck out to Kessel from our own net? (frank), maybe he should play center
SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:07 PM ET
Burke doesn't do long term deals...
- Flyfreaky



Thanks, tips...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:07 PM ET
Burke doesn't do front-loaded/cap circumvention deals. He's always said for the right player, he'd sign a long-term deal (see JVR: didn't sign him, but has no problem with his contract).
- gravyface

JvR is making chump change when compared to the big boys...
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
Assuming Parise would come here for 8M per...you definitely make that signing. Unfortunately we'll likely be looking at Prust and some other role players filling in that 8 mill.


Though I'd be glad with Doan and Jokinen on short term, high-price contracts.

- Feeling Glucky?


If he does, Lupul, MacArthur, or Kadri has to go.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
Front load the poop out of it like every other long term deal... it's not like we can't afford to pay him $12,000,000 for the first couple years...
- SofaKingBored


Money isn't the problem. The cap hit is the problem and potentially having to get rid of a 33 year old player who doesn't earn his price tag. If you end up with a guy getting paid 8 million dollars a year when he doesn't play like it, you get Gomez in Montreal.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
Thanks, tips...
- SofaKingBored

I just feel that this needs to be pointed out over and over cause all these fa are going after long term front loaded deals...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
Well the Leafs did allow more goals last year so it's not really that. It's about the Leafs having more established players that Burke wouldn't honestly be able to say Schultz could automatically play ahead of.

Looking at the Leafs, they have Phaneuf, Liles, Gunnarsson and Gardiner. You would assume that Schultz wants to play with Gardiner and in the top four but realistically it leaves Schultz on the bottom pairing or in the AHL to start the season. Compared that to the Oilers who have Petry, Whitney, Smid and then the fourth spot it's up for grabs and there's little chance of him ending up in the AHL.

- Two_For_Truth

Thank you for disagreeing with me and then reiterating my post as the correct reason. It's really the only way people will agree with me.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:09 PM ET
"Leafs out of the running"...The official motto of the NHL free agency period...
- Flyfreaky




"Flyers looking for goaltender help"...The official motto of the Flyers during any period during the year.
SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:09 PM ET
Money isn't the problem. The cap hit is the problem and potentially having to get rid of a 33 year old player who doesn't earn his price tag. If you end up with a guy getting paid 8 million dollars a year when he doesn't play like it, you get Gomez in Montreal.
- Two_For_Truth


No way Parise turns out to be another Goldmez...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:09 PM ET
"Flyers looking for goaltender help"...The official motto of the Flyers during any period during the year.
- weirdoh

Goddammit...
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:09 PM ET
That's the risk you take to get 5 years of Parise at his best. There's lots of inconsistent players out there, who cost less, but are going to have up and down years. What separates the high-end players from the rest is that their "off years" are better than everyone else's good years.
- gravyface


It's a risk that a team like the Penguins could make but the Leafs aren't suited for it.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:09 PM ET
JvR is making chump change when compared to the big boys...
- Flyfreaky


Again, it's not the term, nor the salary: it's the front-loaded cap circumvention deals. Burke would've had no problem signing Crosby's deal, Quick's deal, etc.
SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:10 PM ET
I just feel that this needs to be pointed out over and over cause all these fa are going after long term front loaded deals...
- Flyfreaky


I will assume for your sake that you haven't been reading the last few pages... all of that has been covered... thanks though...
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:10 PM ET
If he does, Lupul, MacArthur, or Kadri has to go.
- gravyface

Sign Parise and trade Lupul at a pretty high price while his value is at its highest
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:10 PM ET
"Leafs to sign every UFA and trade for every #1 center"...The official motto of the Leafs every summer
- weirdoh

We know...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:11 PM ET
Again, it's not the term, nor the salary: it's the front-loaded cap circumvention deals. Burke would've had no problem signing Crosby's deal, Quick's deal, etc.
- gravyface

I disagree...They only have one player signed for four years under Burke...That's not a long term deal...
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:12 PM ET
Isn't that what we did, signing him after B-Rad went to the Big Rotten Apple? We've been regretting it ever since......what makes you think another team would be dumb enough to do the same thing?

Then again, I'm sure Burke has Howson on speed-dial by now.

- Phenom


have you not watched free agency since the beginning of time? another team always is dumb enough to do the same thing
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
I will assume for your sake that you haven't been reading the last few pages... all of that has been covered... thanks though...
- SofaKingBored

I don't have the attention span needed to do that...So, if we know Burke's m.o. then who in the hell will come to the Leafs?
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
Sign Parise and trade Lupul at a pretty high price while his value is at its highest
- peddy-93


I agree with this.
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:13 PM ET
No way Parise turns out to be another Goldmez...
- SofaKingBored


Parise is pretty unlikely to turn into Gomez but the point is that if a player reaches his 30s and starts to under perform, he's no longer worth his price tag. Gomez gets paid 7+ million dollars but plays like a 1 million dollar player. That probably wouldn't happen with Parise but what if he gets paid 8 million and starts playing like a 4 million dollar player? Still effective but not what you're paying for.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:14 PM ET
Goddammit...
- Flyfreaky




Where are we going with this? Only time will tell.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:15 PM ET
Where are we going with this? Only time will tell.
- weirdoh

Somewhere where I end up getting banned, as usual...
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:16 PM ET
anyone hoping Ross can somehow crack the lineup this year? would love tucker 2.0 to make it anytime now
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