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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Garrison makes more sense to Pitt, Parise or Suter doesn't, they still are paying about 7-8 players almost 70% of a $70 million cap.
- puckhead17



If Shero's going to spend money, it's going to be up front. They have kids like Despres and Bortuzzo that are ready to jump in full-time, and guys like Morrow, Maata and Pouliot that are on the way. I would bet he's learned his lesson from the Martin and Michalek signings.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:24 PM ET
Think we'll have any interest in Tootoo..would love to see him in orange and black
- legionphilly88


I think they'd have a little bit of interest but obviously not a top priority. Opposing teams hate his guts, and he can be an effective player. Hopefully he keeps his off-ice demons under control as well.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:24 PM ET
Think we'll have any interest in Tootoo..would love to see him in orange and black
- legionphilly88

don't they already have that in Rinaldo?
maybe tootoo is an upgrade but not a huge one
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
Carle was in Ottawa this week. He golfed in a Senator's event. I believe his agent may have been at the same event.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
Carle was in Ottawa this week. He golfed in a Senator's event. I believe his agent may have been at the same event.
- spatso

Kuba's replacement
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
If Shero's going to spend money, it's going to be up front. They have kids like Despres and Bortuzzo that are ready to jump in full-time, and guys like Morrow, Maata and Pouliot that are on the way. I would bet he's learned his lesson from the Martin and Michalek signings.
- Tomahawk


I agree but the thing is, all young defensemen are going to have plenty of ups and downs. After Letang, Niskanen and Orpik there's a lot of question marks and young players with a lot of upside but who haven't gone through the learning curve yet. Martin is still a good defenseman when reasonably healthy, but was not a healthy player for much of last season.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
I think they'd have a little bit of interest but obviously not a top priority. Opposing teams hate his guts, and he can be an effective player. Hopefully he keeps his off-ice demons under control as well.
- bmeltzer



Rinaldo and Tootoo on the same line would be pandemonium.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
Carle was in Ottawa this week. He golfed in a Senator's event. I believe his agent may have been at the same event.
- spatso


I do believe Carle's agent will give the opportunity to better the offer he gets in the open market. Of course, who knows what happens at that point.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
I do believe Carle's agent will give the opportunity to better the offer he gets in the open market. Of course, who knows what happens at that point.
- ravishingone

I think after everything is said and done carle will prob head somewhere eles. I think he gets 6 mil from someone
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:33 PM ET
Rinaldo and Tootoo on the same line would be pandemonium.
- Tomahawk

yup
then they are two men down and playing 5 v 3
Lanegan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Oskars Bartulis (PHI) and Eric Boulton (NJD) as well as Armstrong (TOR) on unconditional ($125) waivers for buyout purposes.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
Carle was in Ottawa this week. He golfed in a Senator's event. I believe his agent may have been at the same event.
- spatso


could be a nice pick up for the sens
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
I think after everything is said and done carle will prob head somewhere eles. I think he gets 6 mil from someone
- bigmookalookie


If he gets $6 million on the open market, I tend to agree with you. I think Suter will end with $7 million, so I kind of expect Carle to end up around $6 million since Wideman already got $5.25 million.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
Rinaldo and Tootoo on the same line would be pandemonium.
- Tomahawk

With Sestito jk they would be a -300 by the end of the season, but it would be fun entertainment
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:35 PM ET
I agree but the thing is, all young defensemen are going to have plenty of ups and downs. After Letang and Orpik there's a lot of question marks and young players with a lot of upside but who haven't gone through the learning curve yet. Martin is still a good defenseman when reasonably healthy, but was not a healthy player for much of last season.
- bmeltzer



Then again, we've seen that Shero/Bylsma aren't scared of going with kids on the back end -- Engelland and Lovejoy are a bit utilitarian, but have managed to stick around on merit.

I'd love to see the Flyers have that same kind of faith in their lower-end prospects -- it feels like if a guy doesn't immediately show top-4 potential, the Flyers throw up their hands and deal them away. If given a chance, I'm sure a number of guys in the system could hold down a 6-7 job in the NHL.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:36 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Oskars Bartulis (PHI) and Eric Boulton (NJD) as well as Armstrong (TOR) on unconditional ($125) waivers for buyout purposes.

- Lanegan



Classy move by Homer... give the kid a chance to start fresh somewhere else.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:36 PM ET
Finnish Flash
Dom Moore
6/7 Vet dman for 1 year
Some goalie



Boom!
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:38 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Oskars Bartulis (PHI) and Eric Boulton (NJD) as well as Armstrong (TOR) on unconditional ($125) waivers for buyout purposes.

- Lanegan


fare thee well, oskars

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:40 PM ET
Classy move by Homer... give the kid a chance to start fresh somewhere else.
- Tomahawk


Agreed, I think it will create more ice time for guys like Kessel, Laurdisen, Manning down with the Phantoms to help with their development.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
Classy move by Homer... give the kid a chance to start fresh somewhere else.
- Tomahawk

he looked like he had some promise until that dirty hit by Scotty Upshall, pretty much finished his chances here
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
he looked like he had some promise until that dirty hit by Scotty Upshall, pretty much finished his chances here
- Marc D



His one-way contract probably steered potential waiver claimants clear of him... at least now, he has the option of signing a more affordable two-way deal, get a shot at an NHL lineup, and maybe have the hope of getting picked up elsewhere if he's waived again.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
His one-way contract probably steered potential waiver claimants clear of him... at least now, he has the option of signing a more affordable two-way deal, get a shot at an NHL lineup, and maybe have the hope of getting picked up elsewhere if he's waived again.
- Tomahawk

agree, it was a classy move, give him a shot somewhere else
like they did with Bobs
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:54 PM ET
Bobby Ryan ‏@b_ryan9

What time is "the decision" Justin Schultz edition on tomorrow? Want to make sure I tune in.
Retweeted by James van Riemsdyk





Pot meet kettle
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:04 PM ET
No. He was bought out for good reason. When a player is bought out with one year left on his contract, stay far away.
- bmeltzer


Going back to Pittsburgh... bet Crosby is lobbying hard.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:13 PM ET
Does anyone else get the feeling that Parise will be the main target of the Flyers tomorrow? He may go to another place because of location, but I think the Flyers will pretty much match or out spend anyone.

Of course, if the Flyers land Parise, Carle is a goner.
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