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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
I hope Howson gets something good back from NYR.
- Marc D


Dubinsky is a certain but the way Howson on was requesting so much, it should be McDonough and Stefan
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
If Carle can get 6 million now, does that change the opinion of anyone who wasnt willing to sign Suter for 7+? Is that just the market now for defenseman?
- funmaster18




No I still wouldnt sign him, but yea that it is just the market now. If Im going to splurge in the 7-8 mil range, theres only one Predator that I would sign.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Colby Armstrong is being bought out by TOR. Will be on unconditional waivers at 12 noon ET.



Any interest as a bottom 6 guy?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:50 AM ET
No I still wouldnt sign him, but yea that it is just the market now. If Im going to splurge in the 7-8 mil range, theres only one Predator that I would sign.
- aosplayo


Nash makes $7.8 a year and the consensus is no one wants him for that.
Suter$7?
Carle $6?

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:52 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Colby Armstrong is being bought out by TOR. Will be on unconditional waivers at 12 noon ET.



Any interest as a bottom 6 guy?

- aosplayo

hated him even before his conky

no thanks
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:52 AM ET
Trade Carle's rights and bring in a cheap vet. Its not like we can send MAB down anyway. Might as well see if the Ducks will bite on Jake and Carle's rights.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 11:53 AM ET
If Carle can get 6 million now, does that change the opinion of anyone who wasnt willing to sign Suter for 7+? Is that just the market now for defenseman?
- funmaster18


in a way, i think it makes a suter 7+ mil contract a bit more palatable. when quality d men are going for a lot less money, it definitely makes going all out for the top one seem like a big gamble. the smaller the gap between suter and the guys right behind him, the better you feel about signing him imo

still has to be a good fit within a team's salary structure, though. independent of what other people are signing for, so it doesn't change everything
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:53 AM ET
Dubinsky is a certain but the way Howson on was requesting so much, it should be McDonough and Stefan
- puckhead17

McDonough I would guess is one of their untouchables, the d man more likely to be Del Zotto
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 11:55 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Colby Armstrong is being bought out by TOR. Will be on unconditional waivers at 12 noon ET.



Any interest as a bottom 6 guy?

- aosplayo



No. He was bought out for good reason. When a player is bought out with one year left on his contract, stay far away.

aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:55 AM ET
Nash makes $7.8 a year and the consensus is no one wants him for that.
Suter$7?
Carle $6?


- puckhead17




I just hope this market is actually based on something, like real revenue/tv contracts, otherwise its just all funny money again.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
If Penner came at the right price would he be a good pickup? Provided jagr does not resign or Dolan can not be had? Put him with giroux and I am sure he gets 30 plus goals. Play similar role of jagr.

BaldRich
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kutztown, PA
Joined: 12.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:59 AM ET
what will Sheldon Souray And Bryan Allen ask for???
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:59 AM ET
No. He was bought out for good reason. When a player is bought out with one year left on his contract, stay far away.
- bmeltzer



Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

On a personal note, Colby is a good man. #halfclappertopcheddar #spitshotfire

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:00 PM ET
I just hope this market is actually based on something, like real revenue/tv contracts, otherwise its just all funny money again.
- aosplayo


I agree

Still seems too high a cap figure when you have teams struggling in poor markets
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:01 PM ET
McDonough I would guess is one of their untouchables, the d man more likely to be Del Zotto
- Marc D


Yup
But one could dream that they would have to give him up
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:03 PM ET
I agree

Still seems too high a cap figure when you have teams struggling in poor markets

- puckhead17




Seriously, just look at Brodeur and Doan...neither of them should hit the market.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:04 PM ET
what will Sheldon Souray And Bryan Allen ask for???
- BaldRich


Souray already turned down $3M/ 1 yr from Dallas.

legionphilly88
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 30 @ 12:05 PM ET
Well compared to the Pronger contract i don't see a problem to a 3 year deal with Doan.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
If Penner came at the right price would he be a good pickup? Provided jagr does not resign or Dolan can not be had? Put him with giroux and I am sure he gets 30 plus goals. Play similar role of jagr.
- MrPerfect316


I'd keep an open mind. He'd be a risky pickup that could pay off or backfire. He's also no slam dunk to score 30 goals again, even with Giroux.





ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:08 PM ET
McDonough I would guess is one of their untouchables, the d man more likely to be Del Zotto
- Marc D


I think Kreider is probably untouchable, I wonder if the deal might be del Zotto, Dubinsky (for salary cap reasons) and Stepan and 1st rounder. Maybe even coax Erixson instead of the first rounder.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
I think Kreider is probably untouchable, I wonder if the deal might be del Zotto, Dubinsky (for salary cap reasons) and Stepan and 1st rounder. Maybe even coax Erixson instead of the first rounder.
- ravishingone

That to me seems like too much for Nash, but good for Columbus if they can pull it off.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:13 PM ET
If Carle does return to the Flyers for say 4.75M X 4-5 years, will he go from goat to hero in the eyes of all the haters?

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:13 PM ET
That to me seems like too much for Nash, but good for Columbus if they can pull it off.
- Marc D


Possibly, but apparently Howson was requesting JVR and Schenn or Coots in a proposal from the Flyers. Howson has up to this moment really kept the asking price high, I think he realizes if he gets hosed on the Nash deal, he will need to be updating his resume in the near future.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
If Carle does return to the Flyers for say 4.75M X 4-5 years, will he go from goat to hero in the eyes of all the haters?
- Marc D


no way

legionphilly88
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
Think we'll have any interest in Tootoo..would love to see him in orange and black
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