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Liebing
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Italy
Joined: 01.11.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
Homer is just trying to make Rangers overpay.

Have some faith.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
Homer is just trying to make Rangers overpay.

Have some faith.

- Liebing

He should be getting something for Carle's rights if you ask me.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
Dubi has a bad contract too, over 4M/yr

I think the Rangers want to dump him in the deal but they would have to include Stepan or Krieder for Columbus to go for it.

- Marc D


The ironic part about Nash is depending how the next couple of days unfolds, his contract at $7.8 for 6 more years may be in line or better with risk and return to what Parise and Doan end up signing.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
Homer is just trying to make Rangers overpay.

Have some faith.

- Liebing


For as much as Howson has been seeking, he shouldn't need to help
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
The ironic part about Nash is depending how the next couple of days unfolds, his contract at $7.8 for 6 more years may be in line or better with risk and return to what Parise and Doan end up signing.
- ravishingone


That's how I saw it. Nash is locked in for 6 years & the way salaries are going up each year his contract by October way look more in line with other players his ilk.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
He should be getting something for Carle's rights if you ask me.
- hereticpride

I think it's too late for that, and they are still hoping to sign him.

Or let him walk to go after another target they have?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
The expensive market continues

Todd Cordell ‏@ToddCordell

The Nashville #Predators have announced that C Paul Gaustad has signed a 4-year, 13 million dollar contract extension with the team.

$3.25 AAV (cap hit)
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
That's how I saw it. Nash is locked in for 6 years & the way salaries are going up each year his contract by October way look more in line with other players his ilk.
- puckhead17

True. But for me it all comes down to what they're going to give up for him.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
The expensive market continues

Todd Cordell ‏@ToddCordell

The Nashville #Predators have announced that C Paul Gaustad has signed a 4-year, 13 million dollar contract extension with the team.

$3.25 AAV (cap hit)

- ob18

Well they are the furthest from the Cap floor...
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
That's how I saw it. Nash is locked in for 6 years & the way salaries are going up each year his contract by October way look more in line with other players his ilk.
- puckhead17


You could be right. Parise will probably get in the neighborhood of the same cap hit for 2-4 years more, and Doan you have to figure will get close to $5million on a 3 year deal on 35+ contract.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
Well they are the furthest from the Cap floor...
- hereticpride


Still a lot
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
Bobby Ryan is looking better and better @5.1
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
Brilliant trade by Holmgren. Clearly helps the offense.
- Daman

Huh???
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:17 PM ET
You could be right. Parise will probably get in the neighborhood of the same cap hit for 2-4 years more, and Doan you have to figure will get close to $5million on a 3 year deal on 35+ contract.
- ravishingone


I am in the minority as I wanted Nash, he would be awesome for our first line and PP
And yeah "bad cap hit" and all, but now with the increased salaries
Wideman $5.25 mill. It starts to look more down to earth, he's scored 30 playing with crap on his line each year, (or at least, no playmaker). Here he would be an absolute stud.
But again, there are a handful of our own players that I wouldn't move, regardless.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:18 PM ET
Still a lot
- ob18

If you ask me he basically had the Preds up against a wall, after they gave up a first for him as a rental they basically had to meet his demands...
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:18 PM ET
What is scoop on Whitney?

Doan at 5m for 3 years is acceptable. Seems like a weak free agent market is driving prices higher. No surprise.

I would be surprised if Rangers make big moves. Theyve done such a good job bringing up a young team.

Pitt seems happy to spend.

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
Still a lot
- ob18


His size and 2 way ability plus UFA status, cashes in, (as well, you figure the preds may have to pay a little more because they are the preds)
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:21 PM ET
I am in the minority as I wanted Nash, he would be awesome for our first line and PP
And yeah "bad cap hit" and all, but now with the increased salaries
Wideman $5.25 mill. It starts to look more down to earth, he's scored 30 playing with crap on his line each year, (or at least, no playmaker). Here he would be an absolute stud.
But again, there are a handful of our own players that I wouldn't move, regardless.

- puckhead17


I wouldn't be opposed to acquiring Nash, but I just don't see what they could offer Columbus. I can't see Homer giving up any of the d-men and surely hope Coots and Schenn continue to be untouchable.

Also, I find it hard to believe Howson would want to reacquire Voracek after just dealing him the year before. Of course, I could be wrong on that assumption.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:23 PM ET
His size and 2 way ability plus UFA status, cashes in, (as well, you figure the preds may have to pay a little more because they are the preds)
- puckhead17


Never more then 12 goals in a season.........I'd have to believe it's more for his face offs & defensive zone abilities.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:26 PM ET
Never more then 12 goals in a season.........I'd have to believe it's more for his face offs & defensive zone abilities.
- ob18


Right, and the UFA status doesn't hurt. Also Nashvilles a defensive minded team that he would get a lot of playing minutes.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
Right, and the UFA status doesn't hurt. Also Nashvilles a defensive minded team that he would get a lot of playing minutes.
- puckhead17


I still think it's a lot given he doesn't lend much offense and for mainly defensive abilities.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:37 PM ET
so does the niskanen contract officially put resigning Carle out of reach?
No matter how much we rag on him, he is one of the top three available guys out there. there is low quantity and the number of quality proven guys is small.
Unless he gives the flyers a huge discount, I don't see him signing for less the 6M now.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:41 PM ET
so does the niskanen contract officially put resigning Carle out of reach?
No matter how much we rag on him, he is one of the top three available guys out there. there is low quantity and the number of quality proven guys is small.
Unless he gives the flyers a huge discount, I don't see him signing for less the 6M now.

- nails


May as well give Suter a long term deal with a bunch of lower pay years on the end to lower the cap hit. Or wait for this guy:

Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:43 PM ET
May as well give Suter a long term deal with a bunch of lower pay years on the end to lower the cap hit. Or wait for this guy:


- eayost



The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he doesnt exist

Enter Weber.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:47 PM ET
May as well give Suter a long term deal with a bunch of lower pay years on the end to lower the cap hit. Or wait for this guy:


- eayost


I'd wait.
sign a #5/#6 vet, Salo maybe
try to land Doane for three years
maybe go after Moen.
Otherwise, wait for a trade or a Weber long term.
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