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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
I'm not going to bad mouth Garrison, however, MOST of those goals with that slap shot came in mid season. Campbell encouraged him to blast away when he got the puck..he finally did, and he was scoring. When it became common knowledge to the rest of the league that Garrison is blasting the puck from the blue line, his productivity went down. Of course add in the screens and deflections needed from his teammates to continue that success, but I'm saying, he caught many by surprise initially when he began to score, and that's now out of the bag. Good player, not 5 mil per worth. His defensive play is IMO ok, again, not top line $ worth.
- PanthersGoal



I've read the same as what you've said. He's more of a defensive d-man and his offensive production will probably drop off. He's not worth more than 4 mil per, but 4.5 wouldn't be too crazy. Anything over that is an overpayment and bad value. MG definitely knows how to value players and as a former agent I completely trust him as one of the best when it comes to evaluating a player's worth and making the right offers during free agency.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
Supply and demand dictate the Garrison will get paid, where, who knows. I don't follow advanced stats, but what I was pointing out was that the guys who do think Garrison is a good gamble. Not that his goal totals are likely to continue the trend, they specifically note that this is an anomaly, but that his stats on quality of competition etc are favorable. I guess we'll see.
- 1970vintage


Again, I'd top out at 4m and believe he would do that if he really wanted to be here. He can't be paid more than our top pairing tandem. That would create all sorts of issues.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
Do you think Gillis puts Garrison on the same level as Hamhuis/Bieksa? I say save the $ for Edler.
- 1970vintage


I think Gillis does not get involved with overpayments of unproven players.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:56 PM ET
If you believe what's written on "the twitter", Vancouver fans are already on par with Toronto fans for their manic behaviour.
- 1970vintage


Yeah, it's embarrassing. Our fanbase likes to make fun of the TO fans but we have just as many clowns as they do so we can't really say much at this point. It's pathetic.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:57 PM ET
Again, I'd top out at 4m and believe he would do that if he really wanted to be here. He can't be paid more than our top pairing tandem. That would create all sorts of issues.
- AlexF


I agree that 4M is a fair price for him. I have a feeling that a few teams will offer 4.5 or maybe even 5 though.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:58 PM ET
If you believe what's written on "the twitter", Vancouver fans are already on par with Toronto fans for their manic behaviour.

EDIT - I'm going to an all day barbecue with a 20 litre keg of Phillips beer, I'll just make sure not to check what happened until I get home.

- 1970vintage


Relax buds have sense of humor.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:59 PM ET
I agree that 4M is a fair price for him. I have a feeling that a few teams will offer 4.5 or maybe even 5 though.
- Nucker101


Philly comes to mind as a team desperately searching for defensive depth. Edmonton may want to hammer another nail in our coffin as well.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:00 PM ET
Relax buds have sense of humor.
- Boinker


Oh I'm relaxed, and very funny, just ask me.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:00 PM ET
Relax buds have sense of humor.
- Boinker


It's pretty obvious that most of the stuff being said about the kid is not an attempt at humour. CDC(Surprise) and Twitter is getting ugly right now. He's just a kid, lets move on.


So Luongo to Florida for....?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
Philly comes to mind as a team desperately searching for defensive depth. Edmonton may want to hammer another nail in our coffin as well.
- 1970vintage



I think Philly, NYI, CHI, DET, OTT, STL and of course the Canucks will have some serious interest.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
It's pretty obvious that most of the stuff being said about the kid is not an attempt at humour. CDC(Surprise) and Twitter is getting ugly right now. He's just a kid, lets move on.


So Luongo to Florida for....?

- Nucker101


I would take a 3rd line C, and blue chip prospect either forward or d
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:11 PM ET
It's pretty obvious that most of the stuff being said about the kid is not an attempt at humour. CDC(Surprise) and Twitter is getting ugly right now. He's just a kid, lets move on.


So Luongo to Florida for....?

- Nucker101


Kulikov or Bjugstad and two 2nds.......
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:13 PM ET
I would take a 3rd line C, and blue chip prospect either forward or d
- 1970vintage



LOL, too bad there's no one else to deal with. Panthers in drivers seat here.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:13 PM ET
Kulikov or Bjugstad and two 2nds.......
- Boinker


What about Bjugstad and Goc? One player for now, one for the future...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:14 PM ET
What about Bjugstad and Goc? One player for now, one for the future...
- 1970vintage



Bjugstad straight up.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:15 PM ET
LOL, too bad there's no one else to deal with. Panthers in drivers seat here.
- PanthersGoal


Yeah, we'll see. Maybe it will be Theodore and Clemmensen again and we'll have Schneider and Luongo again.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
Bjugstad straight up.
- VANTEL


Where is this kid playing now?
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
Yeah, we'll see. Maybe it will be Theodore and Clemmensen again and we'll have Schneider and Luongo again.
- 1970vintage



I'd have no problem whatsoever with that. Net minding wasn't much of an issue for us, some more scoring, that's a different story. For that, a tweak somewhere in FA, or seeing what a healthy Upshall can do, and see what a young Huberdeau can do out of the gate.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
What about Bjugstad and Goc? One player for now, one for the future...
- 1970vintage


Canucks would be set at center if we got Bjugstad

Sedin
Kesler
Schroeder
Bjugstad
Gaunce
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:18 PM ET
Bjugstad straight up.
- VANTEL

Overpay for LOUONGCHOKE.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:18 PM ET
I'd have no problem whatsoever with that. Net minding wasn't much of an issue for us, some more scoring, that's a different story. For that, a tweak somewhere in FA, or seeing what a healthy Upshall can do, and see what a young Huberdeau can do out of the gate.
- PanthersGoal


I noticed Theodore letting in some weak goals in the playoffs.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
I noticed Theodore letting in some weak goals in the playoffs.
- Boinker



Luongo and "soft" goals?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
Overpay for LOUONGCHOKE.
- Allstarzz


And your goalie is Who?


This is why Leafs will always be around the sewers of the NHL
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:20 PM ET
I'd have no problem whatsoever with that. Net minding wasn't much of an issue for us, some more scoring, that's a different story. For that, a tweak somewhere in FA, or seeing what a healthy Upshall can do, and see what a young Huberdeau can do out of the gate.
- PanthersGoal


Let's say you are right, and Florida is in the drivers seat, what would be your offer? Where is the value for Vancouver? Why should they make that trade...
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:22 PM ET
Luongo and "soft" goals?
- PanthersGoal


You're right dude. Theodore is just as good as Luongo. Fortunately your GM has more hockey sense.
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