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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:57 PM ET
Damn xXx. Your starting to sound like me. In fact, I pretty much wrote the same stuff last year.

Sure you dont want to join the PACK!

- SCLI

Parise is already pissing me off. Just sign douche. Stop the BS.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:57 PM ET
First time ive heard you knock snow like this. And I completely agree with you on this one.
- Isles316


They can ridicule us. They can laugh at us. They can call us names. But in the end. They come over. Slowly but surely. They come over.


XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:58 PM ET
Tavares will want somebody to play with this year.... Garth has to make the trade or break the bank.
The Isles added depth... no talent today.

They can't go into the season with this line up!!!

More work will be done!!!

- jimmc7722





XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
They can ridicule us. They can laugh at us. They can call us names. But in the end. They come over. Slowly but surely. They come over.



- SCLI

They will give in eventually...
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
He has been pretty consistent with his PA argument(not really an argument everyone agrees). It was a crap non move. As we all see and most with half a brain in their head saw from the beginning(except for the PA loves LI crowd, where are you?).
- Cptmjl


I met the guy and he does love long island but it sounds like he got about $5 mill more offered to him. I love living here too but if I got offered a four year deal like that , id take it and come back in four years
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
Parise is already pissing me off. Just sign douche. Stop the BS.
- Cptmjl


Yea it must be a tough decision deciding in what city you want to spend your $24,000,000.

How I'd hate to have that pressure on me.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:02 PM ET
I met the guy and he does love long island but it sounds like he got about $5 mill more offered to him. I love living here too but if I got offered a four year deal like that , id take it and come back in four years
- Isles316

So we offered him -1,000,000? . Number of years? 4 million per over four years is a resonable offer. Especially since most expected 5 per or up. Another stupid move no matter what numbers he puts up.
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
So we offered him -1,000,000? . Number of years? 4 million per over four years is a resonable offer. Especially since most expected 5 per or up. Another stupid move no matter what numbers he puts up.
- Cptmjl


Isles offered him $2.75 or &2.8 according to staple. Not sure the years..I think 3
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:04 PM ET
Yea it must be a tough decision deciding in what city you want to spend your $24,000,000.

How I'd hate to have that pressure on me.

- SCLI

I like the guy from what little I know but if this drags on like Sundin or etc I will soon hate him. I can't stand when these douches grab the headlines when we all know where they are going.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:05 PM ET
Isles offered him $2.75 or &2.8 according to staple. Not sure the years..I think 3
- Isles316

I don't think 4 at 4 is unreasonable. Call me crazy
NYIDRIVE4FIVE
New York Islanders
Location: Lou York, NY
Joined: 12.17.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
Our newest wolfpack member
- mighty13duck

Xx in the wolfpack?

XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
Okposo, De Haan, Bailey for Ryan
- Mr.Black



That's a solid over payment.. nice!!

XxNYIxX
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:11 PM ET
I don't think 4 at 4 is unreasonable. Call me crazy
- Cptmjl


Not when you're $10 mill under cap floor. Yet $8 for Pandolfo/rolston/staios was good to go.

I don't understand the "parenteau contract is an over payment" contingent. Who gives a crap? They are $25 mill under the salary cap ceiling. The guy can actually play and there is little chance we fill that spot with anyone that produces over 60 points. Remember, besides Tavares , no one had had more points than p.a. did last season since Blake in 07
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
Not when you're $10 mill under cap floor. Yet $8 for Pandolfo/rolston/staios was good to go.

I don't understand the "parenteau contract is an over payment" contingent. Who gives a crap? They are $25 mill under the salary cap ceiling. The guy can actually play and there is little chance we fill that spot with anyone that produces over 60 points. Remember, besides Tavares , no one had had more points than p.a. did last season since Blake in 07

- Isles316


In addition, even if boyes scores 60 points, who the hell is going to scare the opposition in our 2nd line?
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
Our newest wolfpack member
- mighty13duck


Hold the initiation for now.... im not joining the Rascals just yet.


XxNYIxX
NYIDRIVE4FIVE
New York Islanders
Location: Lou York, NY
Joined: 12.17.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
In addition, even if boyes scores 60 points, who the hell is going to scare the opposition in our 2nd line?
- Isles316

Sign Jokinen.

Moulson-Tavares-Boyes
Bailey-Jokinen-Okposo
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
We got him after next year, book it! It will be bigger than Parise
- Cptmjl



LOL!

XxNYIxX
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
From Newsday...

Garth Snow hit three of his targets on the first day of the open market, taking low-cost fliers on forward Brad Boyes, rugged defenseman Matt Carkner and enforcer Eric Boulton before Sunday's free-agent frenzy was less than five hours old.

The Islanders' general manager had identified the need for a scoring forward, a physical defenseman and a depth-forward tough guy before the market opened at noon, and he moved quickly to add them.

"We're still making calls," Snow told Newsday Sunday night. "This isn't the only day we can upgrade our team."

Devils defenseman Bryce Salvador was considering a number of offers, including one from the Islanders. The Isles checked in on Caps forward Alex Semin but no longer were interested as of Sunday night.

Boyes, 30, signed a one-year, $1-million deal, jumping at a "prove-it" offer from a team that could put him on the first line with Matt Moulson and John Tavares. Boyes had 43 goals for the Blues in 2007-08 and 33 in 2008-09 but only eight for the Sabres last season.

"Money wasn't really the driving factor for me," Boyes said. "I wanted . . . a situation that's geared toward my skill set. [Tavares and Moulson] are two of the best in the league now, and if I get a chance to play with them, it can only help me."

Carkner, 32, played only 29 games for the Senators last season because of a knee injury, but he was valuable enough to the defense-poor Isles to earn a three-year, $4.5-million deal. It came after the Avalanche mistakenly reported via Twitter that it had signed Carkner.

"The Isles are lacking a guy like me -- a big, physical D-man who's not afraid to drop the gloves," Carkner said. "It's an opportunity to show what I can do and maybe give some comfort to my teammates out there, knowing I'm on the ice."

That will be the same with Boulton, 35, whose signing won't be made official until Tuesday after he passes through waivers from the Devils. In 11 NHL seasons, he has 1,265 penalty minutes.

"We added some toughness on D with Carkner, and with Boyes, we have a guy who has a history of being a goal-scorer, something we need," Snow said. "We feel like these guys will succeed given the opportunity."

The Islanders had three players leave -- two expected, one less so. P.A. Parenteau scored big with a four-year, $16-million deal from the Avalanche. The Islanders offered less money and fewer years in April.

Defenseman Dylan Reese signed with his hometown Penguins after he didn't get a one-way offer from the Islanders. Forward Micheal Haley signed a two-year, two-way deal with the Rangers.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
Not when you're $10 mill under cap floor. Yet $8 for Pandolfo/rolston/staios was good to go.

I don't understand the "parenteau contract is an over payment" contingent. Who gives a crap? They are $25 mill under the salary cap ceiling. The guy can actually play and there is little chance we fill that spot with anyone that produces over 60 points. Remember, besides Tavares , no one had had more points than p.a. did last season since Blake in 07

- Isles316

I completely agree. I think most people were concerned with paying him more that Tavares which I whole heartedly agree. 4 at four is a reasonable number. Snow signed some good contracts with Mouslon and Tavares but we can't completely set a standard especially when it comes to FA.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:16 PM ET
Hold the initiation for now.... im not joining the Rascals just yet.
XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
This is where you piss me off. If you think for a second a 2nd rounder wasn't offered for him you are wrong. The only problem is I can't prove it and you'll ask for a source and then I'll just say, "come on man ITS COMMON SENSE!!!!".
- Cptmjl



That's why you love me....

I just don't like when everybody craps all over the team without knowing all the facts.

I'm just trying to make the conversation a little more interesting.

Too many people just throw out comments without any facts to back them up.

I think there were offers....sure.

But we don't know what was said behind closed doors.

It's like that stupid rumour about the Isles sending all their picks to the Blue Jackets for the #2.

One reporter tweets it out, and then it a fact....

Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
From Newsday...

Garth Snow hit three of his targets on the first day of the open market, taking low-cost fliers on forward Brad Boyes, rugged defenseman Matt Carkner and enforcer Eric Boulton before Sunday's free-agent frenzy was less than five hours old.

The Islanders' general manager had identified the need for a scoring forward, a physical defenseman and a depth-forward tough guy before the market opened at noon, and he moved quickly to add them.

"We're still making calls," Snow told Newsday Sunday night. "This isn't the only day we can upgrade our team."

Devils defenseman Bryce Salvador was considering a number of offers, including one from the Islanders. The Isles checked in on Caps forward Alex Semin but no longer were interested as of Sunday night.

Boyes, 30, signed a one-year, $1-million deal, jumping at a "prove-it" offer from a team that could put him on the first line with Matt Moulson and John Tavares. Boyes had 43 goals for the Blues in 2007-08 and 33 in 2008-09 but only eight for the Sabres last season.

"Money wasn't really the driving factor for me," Boyes said. "I wanted . . . a situation that's geared toward my skill set.

- kear20[Tavares and Moulson] are two of the best in the league now, and if I get a chance to play with them, it can only help me."

Carkner, 32, played only 29 games for the Senators last season because of a knee injury, but he was valuable enough to the defense-poor Isles to earn a three-year, $4.5-million deal. It came after the Avalanche mistakenly reported via Twitter that it had signed Carkner.

"The Isles are lacking a guy like me -- a big, physical D-man who's not afraid to drop the gloves," Carkner said. "It's an opportunity to show what I can do and maybe give some comfort to my teammates out there, knowing I'm on the ice."

That will be the same with Boulton, 35, whose signing won't be made official until Tuesday after he passes through waivers from the Devils. In 11 NHL seasons, he has 1,265 penalty minutes.

"We added some toughness on D with Carkner, and with Boyes, we have a guy who has a history of being a goal-scorer, something we need," Snow said. "We feel like these guys will succeed given the opportunity."

The Islanders had three players leave -- two expected, one less so. P.A. Parenteau scored big with a four-year, $16-million deal from the Avalanche. The Islanders offered less money and fewer years in April.

Defenseman Dylan Reese signed with his hometown Penguins after he didn't get a one-way offer from the Islanders. Forward Micheal Haley signed a two-year, two-way deal with the Rangers.


"we are still making calls, this isn't the only day we can upgrade our team"

Snow sounds like a gm there for once...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
From Newsday...

Garth Snow hit three of his targets on the first day of the open market, taking low-cost fliers on forward Brad Boyes, rugged defenseman Matt Carkner and enforcer Eric Boulton before Sunday's free-agent frenzy was less than five hours old.

The Islanders' general manager had identified the need for a scoring forward, a physical defenseman and a depth-forward tough guy before the market opened at noon, and he moved quickly to add them.

"We're still making calls," Snow told Newsday Sunday night. "This isn't the only day we can upgrade our team."

Devils defenseman Bryce Salvador was considering a number of offers, including one from the Islanders. The Isles checked in on Caps forward Alex Semin but no longer were interested as of Sunday night.

Boyes, 30, signed a one-year, $1-million deal, jumping at a "prove-it" offer from a team that could put him on the first line with Matt Moulson and John Tavares. Boyes had 43 goals for the Blues in 2007-08 and 33 in 2008-09 but only eight for the Sabres last season.

"Money wasn't really the driving factor for me," Boyes said. "I wanted . . . a situation that's geared toward my skill set.

- kear20[Tavares and Moulson] are two of the best in the league now, and if I get a chance to play with them, it can only help me."

Carkner, 32, played only 29 games for the Senators last season because of a knee injury, but he was valuable enough to the defense-poor Isles to earn a three-year, $4.5-million deal. It came after the Avalanche mistakenly reported via Twitter that it had signed Carkner.

"The Isles are lacking a guy like me -- a big, physical D-man who's not afraid to drop the gloves," Carkner said. "It's an opportunity to show what I can do and maybe give some comfort to my teammates out there, knowing I'm on the ice."

That will be the same with Boulton, 35, whose signing won't be made official until Tuesday after he passes through waivers from the Devils. In 11 NHL seasons, he has 1,265 penalty minutes.

"We added some toughness on D with Carkner, and with Boyes, we have a guy who has a history of being a goal-scorer, something we need," Snow said. "We feel like these guys will succeed given the opportunity."

The Islanders had three players leave -- two expected, one less so. P.A. Parenteau scored big with a four-year, $16-million deal from the Avalanche. The Islanders offered less money and fewer years in April.

Defenseman Dylan Reese signed with his hometown Penguins after he didn't get a one-way offer from the Islanders. Forward Micheal Haley signed a two-year, two-way deal with the Rangers.[/i]

This I hate more than anything
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:20 PM ET
That's why you love me....

I just don't like when everybody craps all over the team without knowing all the facts.

I'm just trying to make the conversation a little more interesting.

Too many people just throw out comments without any facts to back them up.

I think there were offers....sure.

But we don't know what was said behind closed doors.

It's like that stupid rumour about the Isles sending all their picks to the Blue Jackets for the #2.

One reporter tweets it out, and then it a fact....

- jimmc7722

I have a hard time believing we couldn't have gotten a 2nd for PA. Good night all
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:22 PM ET
Parise is already pissing me off. Just sign douche. Stop the BS.
- Cptmjl

Why?
Pretty big decision in his life I would suppose. I'd take my time too.

X....I agree with everything you wrote regarding PA and Snow. The only thing I don't agree with is, he's not as good as everyone seems to think. Not the worst contract in the world, and he's not a bad player (I actually like him), but four years to him would be something most of would be cursing by the end of year two.
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