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Magicmanmalkin
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.25.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:35 PM ET
I find that hard to believe too.
- Gunner Staal

Probably because Crosby was out hurt most of the year. My guess.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:38 PM ET
Probably because Crosby was out hurt most of the year. My guess.
- Magicmanmalkin


What would that have to do with anything though? They still sold out all their games, Im sure merchandise sales werent slowed by that. I think they are the top road draw (at least top 5) as well.
Magicmanmalkin
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.25.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:41 PM ET
What would that have to do with anything though? They still sold out all their games, Im sure merchandise sales werent slowed by that. I think they are the top road draw (at least top 5) as well.
- Gunner Staal

You have no idea. I know how the student population changed from last year (Crosby's hot streak around christmas) to this year. When Crosby was hot his stuff was flying off shelves. This year it was more of ehh who cares about hockey untill crosby's frist game back.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:45 PM ET
What would that have to do with anything though? They still sold out all their games, Im sure merchandise sales werent slowed by that. I think they are the top road draw (at least top 5) as well.
- Gunner Staal


Right. Doesn't matter if Sid played or not. The vast majority of their revenue will always be ticket sales. When you say road draw... You're not saying they get a percentage of road ticket sales...right? I don't think that happens in the NHL.

Who knows if those numbers are truly accurate, but It's long been known around the burgh that the Pens always count on at least two playoff series in budgeting.

If the numbers are accurate. The most alarming fact I saw was 18 teams lost money. No wonder the owners want to change the percentage of revenues. Can you say lockout.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:51 PM ET
So while we're 48 (I think?) hours out... What is your guys' dream scenario? Go!
- brianb0422

Parise,
ryan (even though we have nothig really to trade them besides picks),
prust,
doan,
suter (even though i think we dont need another d, but if we get him and parise says yes then ok),
parros,
jagr as last resort (sorry i think he could help)
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:08 AM ET
Right. Doesn't matter if Sid played or not. The vast majority of their revenue will always be ticket sales. When you say road draw... You're not saying they get a percentage of road ticket sales...right? I don't think that happens in the NHL.

Who knows if those numbers are truly accurate, but It's long been known around the burgh that the Pens always count on at least two playoff series in budgeting.

If the numbers are accurate. The most alarming fact I saw was 18 teams lost money. No wonder the owners want to change the percentage of revenues. Can you say lockout.

- madmike71


No not at all. I am saying if they are that popular on the road, that means they probably have more fans outside of the Pittsburgh area buying Pittsburgh merchandise, which equals more $$$. More exposure leads to better TV deals and better advertising dollars as well.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:53 AM ET
Well leaving Greece in a few and off to Paris for a night... unluckily i will b in a plane all day Sunday so i won't find out what happens until i land in pitt

Hope we get they guys we want....lets go pens!!!!!
brianb0422
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:23 AM ET
Well leaving Greece in a few and off to Paris for a night... unluckily i will b in a plane all day Sunday so i won't find out what happens until i land in pitt

Hope we get they guys we want....lets go pens!!!!!

- nh4442


Maybe the air traffic controller and pilot will both be Pens fans and keep you in the loop.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
Maybe the air traffic controller and pilot will both be Pens fans and keep you in the loop.
- brianb0422


Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
Maybe the air traffic controller and pilot will both be Pens fans and keep you in the loop.
- brianb0422


wow...how luck would that be?lol

Paris is awessome. Even better when you're taking your lady with you. Didn't have a chance to take mine but went with my brother and my cousin so it wasn't that bad as you're free to get wasted. Buy some snacks, a bottle (or two haha) of wine and go to Eiffel Tower.

I will be disapointed if we don't land Parise or Doan..
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Jun 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
WELP. (also kind of ironic)

Bobby Ryan @b_ryan9
What time is "the decision" Justin Schultz edition on tomorrow? Want to make sure I tune in.

Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 10:17 AM ET
WELP. (also kind of ironic)

Bobby Ryan @b_ryan9
What time is "the decision" Justin Schultz edition on tomorrow? Want to make sure I tune in.

- nhindian


Actually I think it is a pretty funny and clever dig at the kid considering he spurned the Ducks.

John Buccigross ‏@Buccigross
Could be some big NHL news today. Stay tuned NY Rangers fans


Hopefully its the Rangers gutting their youth for Rick Nash.
ikyan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Kingston, ON
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jun 30 @ 10:37 AM ET
Theissen resigned. 1 year, 2 way. 525k.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 11:18 AM ET
Theissen resigned. 1 year, 2 way. 525k.
- ikyan


I actually got a good laugh from Maddens tweet about his contract, it's true.

“@MarkMaddenX: @pghpenguins It might as well be worth a billion dollars at the NHL level. He's a career AHL guy.”
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
Toronto reportedly has bought out the contract of former Penguins RW Colby Armstrong.

I'd want him back for our 3rd line! Do it Shero!
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Colby Armstrong is being bought out by TOR. Will be on unconditional waivers at 12 noon ET.

What "unconditional waivers" mean? Do we have to take back any part of his previous salary?

If not come home Army20!
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:52 AM ET
Well I guess that's the answer

Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
As noted by @TSNBobMcKenzie, Colby Armstrong must clear waivers before his buyout takes effect.

This means that maybe he'll be claimed by some other team way bellow the cap...
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
Well I guess that's the answer

Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
As noted by @TSNBobMcKenzie, Colby Armstrong must clear waivers before his buyout takes effect.

This means that maybe he'll be claimed by some other team way bellow the cap...

- Orpik44


id love to have him back, but does he play center or wing? hell, armstrong-sutter-cooke is a strong line. then we trade t.k =)
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
We all love Colby but if there is one thing the Penguins have in spades, it is 3rd line wingers.

More importantly a good signing to report:

Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
Niskanen gets two years and 4.6 million.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:53 PM ET
We all love Colby but if there is one thing the Penguins have in spades, it is 3rd line wingers.

More importantly a good signing to report:

Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
Niskanen gets two years and 4.6 million.

- Gunner Staal


As expected. Nice deal for both parts.

As for Army, I'd take him for U$1mil. for our third line as long as we trade TK.

Cooke - Sutter - Armstrong sounds really good as a shutdown line.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 12:54 PM ET
As expected. Nice deal for both parts.

As for Army, I'd take him for U$1mil. for our third line as long as we trade TK.

Cooke - Sutter - Armstrong sounds really good as a shutdown line.

- Orpik44


I'd rather keep Kennedy for the year at this point, final year in a contract, he has something to play for.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'd rather keep Kennedy for the year at this point, final year in a contract, he has something to play for.
- Gunner Staal


Well if it's a matter of something to play for...

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Quick chat with Colby Armstrong.He's staying positive. Has had bad luck with injuries. Says he has tons of game and wants chance to prove it

Army would be going back home...he never wanted to leave in the first place.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:26 PM ET
Well if it's a matter of something to play for...

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Quick chat with Colby Armstrong.He's staying positive. Has had bad luck with injuries. Says he has tons of game and wants chance to prove it

Army would be going back home...he never wanted to leave in the first place.

- Orpik44


It would be a sentimental move more than a hockey one, unless he is a 4th liner on the cheap.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
The Tennesseean recently reported that Nashville is interested in Martin. I can confirm that Nashville isn't on Martin's no-trade list.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:57 PM ET
Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
The Tennesseean recently reported that Nashville is interested in Martin. I can confirm that Nashville isn't on Martin's no-trade list.

- Gunner Staal


Just checked my twitter...I was about to post this one here lol

This is good news I guess. If we land Suter OR Weber (who knows?), Martin will be a predator for sure.
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