anyone think that maybe they just bring back Kubina for the 6th spot?

Ryan's contract is more than fair.

A 40+ goal potential power froward with his track record? Absolutely fair. Players like that don't grown on trees.
- LordStanley88

I don't mind making a deal for Ryan as long as it isn't more than 1 roster player, prospect, and a 2nd round pick. Do not trade multiple roster players for this guy.

Riiiiiiiiiiiigghhhhttt, so why add a guy that has essentially stopped playing after he got paid, and take away 6.7MM of Cap Space for J-Bo.
- Flyers1218

i see your point, but the sarcasm is not appreciated.

What makes JVR a higher valued asset? Wouldn't a potential top pairing defenseman be more valuable?
- Flyers1218

most scouts would rate schenn as a stay at home compliment, 2nd pairing guy as his ceiling. not a dynamic, puck moving point producer. he'd actually be a good partner for carle if he could cut down on mistakes.

I don't mind making a deal for Ryan as long as it isn't more than 1 roster player, prospect, and a 2nd round pick. Do not trade multiple roster players for this guy.
- Jimmygrazz

agreed

anyone think that maybe they just bring back Kubina for the 6th spot?
- JoeRussomanno

i'd pass. he looked shot by the end last year

anyone think that maybe they just bring back Kubina for the 6th spot?
- JoeRussomanno

I had thought about that actually. He is apparently asking for a two year deal though.

i see your point, but the sarcasm is not appreciated.
- flyerscup2011

Sorry, I apologize.

i see your point, but the sarcasm is not appreciated.
- flyerscup2011

Sorry, I apologize.

Sorry, I apologize.
- Flyers1218

forgiven

i'd pass. he looked shot by the end last year
- FlyerMike18

I thought he looked good until that injury.

most scouts would rate schenn as a stay at home compliment, 2nd pairing guy as his ceiling. not a dynamic, puck moving point producer. he'd actually be a good partner for carle if he could cut down on mistakes.
- isaiah520

Schenn could very well become a Regher type top-line shutdown blue-liner IMO.

I think he has a higher ceiling than you're giving him credit for.

I still think they need:

-A front-line winger to pair Giroux and take some pressure off of him (opts. Ryan, Nash, Jagr, Doan, etc.)
-A d-man that can eat 22+ minutes (opt. Carle, Garrison, trades)
-A 4th line center that can WIN faceoffs and kill penalties (McClement, Moore, etc.)
-A tough, grinding bottom 6 forward (Prust wold be ideal IMO)
-Back-up goalie
- LordStanley88

Accomplishing that would be a home run, and I agree those are all worthy goals, but not sure if all can be done this summer.

I think Jake Voracek can play top line minutes with G if they don't get another sniper or resign Jags. OK his shooting needs work but he is a demon with puck possession and has size and speed.

As to the D, waiting to go after a Timonen replacement next season makes a lot of sense, there may be more options. If they have a chance to get someone sooner, Homer will go for it, he is not shy about it.

I do expect some tweaking on the bottom six. Prust is a dik but I'm sure I would love him as a Flyer.

A decent back up goalie is a priority now.

I haven't noticed this patience you speak of...

To clarify though, I'm a big supporter of Homer.
- LordStanley88

The fact that he hasn't traded for anybody's rights and hasn't blown everything up in pursuit of Suter/Weber/Ryan/Nash etc yet speaks to a bit of a sea-change in his approach.

I'm 100% behind Homer's overarching vision, his adherence to the Flyer identity and his ability to evaluate and acquire talent -- however, it's been very hard to support his cap-bungling, poor asset management, and repeated mistakes in the details during his watch (Hyka, contract limits, tagging space, Lilja's multi-year deal triggering 35+, etc).

From where I'm standing though, it seems like he's learned some valuable lessons and the team will be better off for it in the future.

Have this feeling there is going to be a lot of upset people on July 1st

I had thought about that actually. He is apparently asking for a two year deal though.
- Flyers1218

ugh...

Trading JVR for Luke Schenn was not a calculate risk.
- MJL

I agree, it was just a poor value deal. if carle is leaving, wouldn't you rather have not made that deal and be willing to move other assets to get a better replacement? we need a puck mover as it is already. I know it's more of a risk, but schenn, while a nice prospect, is not exactly the guy who would make our mix work in the absence of carle.

I thought he looked good until that injury.
- JoeRussomanno

What exactly was the injury? I don't remember what it was.

i get the feeling sumthing is going down today

didn't aucoin make comments similar to those made by derek morris about bryz? i could be totally wrong, but for some reason i feel as if that was the case

that's my main reservation about him on a one year deal, if true of course
- FlyerMike18

I think you are right, fck aucoin

Have this feeling there is going to be a lot of upset people on July 1st
- stveshdy

That's not just a feeling, it's an inevitability.

ugh...
- JoeRussomanno

He had said through his agent to the Czech press that he was dissapointed with his time in Philadelphia and will reach the market looking for a two year deal.

Have this feeling there is going to be a lot of upset people on July 1st
- stveshdy

this is a safe bet, no matter what goes down

Have this feeling there is going to be a lot of upset people on July 1st
- stveshdy

none of which will be named Matt Carle

I think you are right, fck aucoin
- Marc D

Yep, I had forgot he also made those comments. Screw that.