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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:54 AM ET
Everyone but canuck fans knew this from the start.

I wish i paid more attention and could throw the -" you're an idiot if u think luongos only worth a mediocre return. You'll see" -quotes back at the appropriate nuck posters.

Yes, i am that petty.

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:55 AM ET
Everyone but canuck fans knew this from the start.

I wish i paid more attention and could throw the -" you're an idiot if u think luongos only worth a mediocre return. You'll see" -quotes back at the appropriate nuck posters.

Yes, i am that petty.

- hugefemale dog77

you wouldn't expect that from a guy (girl?) called huge b!tch.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:56 AM ET
i don't want garrisson at $5m.

i'd offer 3.5 max and if he wants more, thank him for listening and wish him well. 1 good year = 5m? i'm thinking i'd rather keep the money than take that big a risk.

canucks will not be well served by adding another 5m dman that doesn't appreciably make their d corps better.

- RealityChecker

no point even calling him for 3.5, shallow talent pool for UFA's this year.And considering you pay ballard more....thats not going to fly

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:56 AM ET
you wouldn't expect that from a guy (girl?) called huge b!tch.
- RealityChecker


Touche'
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:56 AM ET
I think schultz is going to minnesota
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:57 AM ET
no point even calling him for 3.5, shallow talent pool for UFA's this year.And considering you pay ballard more....thats not going to fly
- numbear

i know. just my way of saying that when the talent pool is this shallow for UFA's, it's best not to spend.

when garrisson believes that he is worth (and will probably get) 5m, it's better to be on the sidelines than on the field.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:59 AM ET
I think schultz is going to minnesota
- numbear

that would be truly funny.

all the speculation, all the flame wars, and he ends up in the middle of nowhere. awesome!

TheCouv
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:59 AM ET
They burned down building's because they care.
- Deadmau55

I was cheering for you because I like to lose to the best. Unfortunatley the Canucks have lost to the Cup winners the last three years
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:00 AM ET
I was cheering for you because I like to lose to the best. Unfortunatley the Canucks have lost to the Cup winners the last three years
- TheCouv

that's why you were cheering for the bruins. you bastard!!!!
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:26 AM ET
I think schultz is going to minnesota
- numbear


Minnys not on his "list" but Mackenzie did say they are still in it as a dark horse.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:31 AM ET
that would be truly funny.

all the speculation, all the flame wars, and he ends up in the middle of nowhere. awesome!

- RealityChecker

minnesota is going to a decent team in a couple years
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:34 AM ET
Minnys not on his "list" but Mackenzie did say they are still in it as a dark horse.
- mochoson

ya saw that, doesn't same that far fetched. Has some young D for him to lead. Brodin, Cuma, Dumba
vancitydan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: not a Luongo hater, AV bater, , BC
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:35 AM ET
So insulting.

Yes, with the deal Schneider just signed, Luongo is probably getting moved.

But he is a player under contract, and with this new deal, the Canucks still have a bunch of Cap space and most guys signed.

They could easily go into the next season with both goalies, no matter what folks here and otherwise want to say about that. Yes, I know the # is 9.3 mil. Math is easy. But the Cap is also 70 mil!

So, get over it Ek'. You seem, ( no disrespect ) to get a bee in your bonnet and then slam away at it in various different ways. Never admitting after repeatedly being shown the logic of the other side that they might have a point.

Sort of like the Puck GOP!

But this insistence that Luongo has to be moved for SFA because you say so and "gasp"(!!!!!!) THE CONTRACT is getting tiresome.

The man has ;

The highest for the longest save % in the NHL for active goalies a .919 over 11-12 years.

3 Vezina nominations

A Gold Medal ( no matter how much the wags try to downgrade it )

Yes, he got 15 wins instead of 16 the year before last. He also had 2 shutouts and 8 total goals of support in a seven game Finals.


Its simple. I am saying it as firmly and politely as I can. If a team ( like the Cats or the Leafs ) wants one of the best goalies in the NHL, they will pay fairly or not at all.

Further, the contract is fine as they go. Quick just signed for 10. Rinne for 7...on and on it goes. Obviously a ton of teams think that long deals might get cut in the CBA, and they want the cost certainty and Cap bonus you get from a long deal. So, it can actually be thought of as a good thing as far as that goes.

Plus, the deal is mostly paid out after 6 years. With a Cap hit that is at least a million dollars cheaper than his contemporaries. Hell, its 500K less than Quick!


Elite goalies don't come cheap Ek'. I get that the old rumour salt mines mean you have to do what you do. But when you rail about respect for the game ( Schultz ) one day, and then totally disrespect and denigrate one of the truly elite goalies in the NHL the next, it kind of mitigates how seriously we should take your opinion on things of respect.

Like my dad and yours (probably ) said "You don't get respect, you earn it." Whether you are a hater, or not, Roberto Luongo has earned a ton of respect in this league.

MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:37 AM ET
So insulting.

Yes, with the deal Schneider just signed, Luongo is probably getting moved.

But he is a player under contract, and with this new deal, the Canucks still have a bunch of Cap space and most guys signed.

They could easily go into the next season with both goalies, no matter what folks here and otherwise want to say about that. Yes, I know the # is 9.3 mil. Math is easy. But the Cap is also 70 mil!

So, get over it Ek'. You seem, ( no disrespect ) to get a bee in your bonnet and then slam away at it in various different ways. Never admitting after repeatedly being shown the logic of the other side that they might have a point.

Sort of like the Puck GOP!

But this insistence that Luongo has to be moved for SFA because you say so and "gasp"(!!!!!!) THE CONTRACT is getting tiresome.

The man has ;

The highest for the longest save % in the NHL for active goalies a .919 over 11-12 years.

3 Vezina nominations

A Gold Medal ( no matter how much the wags try to downgrade it )

Yes, he got 15 wins instead of 16 the year before last. He also had 2 shutouts and 8 total goals of support in a seven game Finals.


Its simple. I am saying it as firmly and politely as I can. If a team ( like the Cats or the Leafs ) wants one of the best goalies in the NHL, they will pay fairly or not at all.

Further, the contract is fine as they go. Quick just signed for 10. Rinne for 7...on and on it goes. Obviously a ton of teams think that long deals might get cut in the CBA, and they want the cost certainty and Cap bonus you get from a long deal. So, it can actually be thought of as a good thing as far as that goes.

Plus, the deal is mostly paid out after 6 years. With a Cap hit that is at least a million dollars cheaper than his contemporaries. Hell, its 500K less than Quick!


Elite goalies don't come cheap Ek'. I get that the old rumour salt mines mean you have to do what you do. But when you rail about respect for the game ( Schultz ) one day, and then totally disrespect and denigrate one of the truly elite goalies in the NHL the next, it kind of mitigates how seriously we should take your opinion on things of respect.

Like my dad and yours (probably ) said "You don't get respect, you earn it." Whether you are a hater, or not, Roberto Luongo has earned a ton of respect in this league.


- vancitydan


tl;dr
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:38 AM ET
If they don't move him this summer, they might not ever be able to trade him
- Schennski



Thats deep-dish-bull-sh*t.

The Canucks do not need to move him until the trade deadline next season. If they keep him... they lose a 5 million dollar player elsewhere.... but they play in the Northwest division where they will get third in the conference anyways. They do not need to move him anytime soon.

Hell, they can even put him on waivers.

Also, the new cap is 70.... right?

Canucks have room. I am not saying they would LIKE this option... but they have it.

Just how many teams need to now make the floor?

Keep your wishful thinking....
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 29 @ 2:20 AM ET
Man.. so much talk and no good ol fashioned proposals

VAN gets:
MacArthur
Komisarek
3rd

TOR gets:
Luongo
Ballard
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:23 AM ET
Man.. so much talk and no good ol fashioned proposals

VAN gets:
MacArthur
Komisarek
3rd

TOR gets:
Luongo
Ballard

- Boosinicka



Fax me that and I will sign it. Please add Kadri for Raymond.
Fenyes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:09 AM ET
Fax me that and I will sign it. Please add Kadri for Raymond.
- Beatle_john

That's to much contract going both ways and van would never accept a deal with MacArthur
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:45 AM ET
That's to much contract going both ways and van would never accept a deal with MacArthur
- Fenyes


whyyyyy?

I thought they needed more scoring? cheap scoring at that.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:03 AM ET
Everyone but canuck fans knew this from the start.

I wish i paid more attention and could throw the -" you're an idiot if u think luongos only worth a mediocre return. You'll see" -quotes back at the appropriate nuck posters.

Yes, i am that petty.

- hugefemale dog77


Are you using EK's blog to back up your opinions?
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jun 29 @ 7:06 AM ET
This is how it will shake out, now that scheids is signed Luo will be moved before July 1st, then Van will go after a big fish with the money they save. Makes too much sense to do it now, the Value wont go up much later if at all (seeing as luo has an ntc any failing teams looking for goaltending can be denied.)
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:12 AM ET
http://www.miamiherald.co...rs-place-two-players.html


Dale doing some "dusting and cleaning"...Santorelli will get another shot, good kid with one good year...just went down this past season and never got back up. Dale's also smart enough to stay WAY clear of Garrison and that ridiculous 5mil number.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:15 AM ET
The only way I see Lu in a Leafs uniform is if they have a poor start to the season (due to bad goaltending), and Burkie gets desperate.

At this point though, no one will give up quality for Lu's contract (I've been saying this for months). That said, Gillis would be doing himself a disservice if he doesn't deal him before July 1st....as he'll miss out on the Parise sweeps.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:32 AM ET
99% of people know luongo will be moved before the season starts

1% of people are canucks fans who think gillis has leverage LOL
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:50 AM ET
The Canucks might not get "much" for Luongo....but it's still going to be more than Oleg Kvasha.
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