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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
so why hasn't he signed a multiyear deal? seems like it'll be 1 year deals every year.
- flyersfan51

Because he signed a single one year extension last year we get to this conclusion?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
so why hasn't he signed a multiyear deal? seems like it'll be 1 year deals every year.
- flyersfan51

I think his agent knows his value, but he is RFA and the Flyers have all the leverage with him right now.

Anyway multi-year deals are the kiss of death in Flyer Land.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'd find a way to keep Letang.
I don't know much about the prospects coming up, but he seems like a key player for you guys.

- Marc D



He is, but pretty much everyone of our prospects is an offensive defenseman. Obviously nowhere close to Letangs level, but Shero likes drafting them.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
Would you agree Letang is probably the odd man out based on the team structure and the prospects coming up? As much as it would suck to lose such a stud I just don't see how we keep him.
- canadianpenfan


So hard to replace a proven and still young top pairing defenseman. I would think Shero would be more likely to bit the bullet and sign Letang long-term and then shop Marc-Andre Fleury and go with a less expensive goaltender if necessary.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
Right now, they're pretty much locked into carrying 8 D (assuming Carle re-signs and no other trades).

Bourdon is no longer waiver exempt, at there is a major risk he'd be claimed if waived to send to AHL. Even if he somehow made it through, he'd be confined to AHL for the entire year because there is virtually zero chance he'd make it through recall waivers at half price.

Lilja is on an over-35 contract, so the Flyers are basically stuck with him unless they can find a team that wants a discount veteran 7th D with an expiring contract.

- bmeltzer

Carrying 8 defenseman might be the final straw for Mr Jody Shelley.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
So hard to replace a proven and still young top pairing defenseman. I would think Shero would be more likely to bit the bullet and sign Letang long-term and then shop Marc-Andre Fleury and go with a less expensive goaltender if necessary.
- bmeltzer



That's another option, my only problem is that won't save that much money. Fleury's hit is 5, even if you found a goalie at 3 more money would need to be freed up.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
14 million in cap space after the Crosby extension, anything is possible.
- canadianpenfan


that's amazing they have so much cap space and have that kind of team.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
He is, but pretty much everyone of our prospects is an offensive defenseman. Obviously nowhere close to Letangs level, but Shero likes drafting them.
- canadianpenfan

Maybe give Letang a 3-4 yr extension to give time for the prospects to develop a bit?

Idk if Letang would settle for a "shorter" deal though.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
Next summer, both Malkin and Letang come up for extensions before going into the final year of their respective contracts. Even if Malkin accepts the same mini-bump in his cap hit up to $9.0 million, Letang's cap hit is probably going to double from $3.5M to $7M.
- bmeltzer


Pens might be really fortunate Staal didn't sign that extension with Malkin and Letang coming up for extensions next summer.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
Because he signed a single one year extension last year we get to this conclusion?
- JoeRussomanno


did it last year and this year.....boom.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
Flyers' summer rookie camp roster. Clapperton is an interesting wildcard, ala Hyka last year (but actually eligible to be signed).

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=636334
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
did it last year and this year.....boom.
- flyersfan51

has he signed anything this year yet? boom
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
has he signed anything this year yet? boom
- JoeRussomanno


it'll be a 1 year deal -- come up with your own awesome phrase.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Bill,
What are your thoughts if Flyers used the approximate $5 mil for Carle and used it to get a cheaper veteran defenseman like Colaicovo, O'Brien, Hannan, Zanon, Salo, or Kuba?

They would still have Meszaros-Schenn-Grossmann-Coburn-Timonen with Gustafson, Lilja, and Manning and Bourdon (if he is still here) as 7/8 options.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
it'll be a 1 year deal -- come up with your own awesome phrase.
- flyersfan51

and you know this how? Even if he does one more one year deal it doesn't mean every year for the next 15 or so years of his career he will be signing one year deals. come up with common sense
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
Doan would be great if interested in Philly but the four-year contract demand is excessive. Wouldn't even want to go three years out, but OK depending on cap hit he'll trade off for an extra year. Two, absolutely.
- bmeltzer


Bill i agree in pricipal but it is the cost of doing business these days.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:11 PM ET
lol the flyers invited jvr little brother to rookie camp
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
and you know this how? Even if he does one more one year deal it doesn't mean every year for the next 15 or so years of his career he will be signing one year deals. come up with common sense
- JoeRussomanno


Plus we don't know of the flyers pushed for the one year deal.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
and you know this how? Even if he does one more one year deal it doesn't mean every year for the next 15 or so years of his career he will be signing one year deals. come up with common sense
- JoeRussomanno


got plenty of common sense....you kinda see a trend coming when he signs a 1 year and they gave him a qualifying offer and he hasn't signed it yet which means it'll most likely be a 1 year deal......

so that's common sense for you -- now move on dude.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:14 PM ET
Lets cut through the crap. Lets get everyone on record. Y/N

My responses follow

1. Carle yes
2. Jagr no
3. Parise no
4. Ryan no
5. Suter no fw
6. Doan no
7. 3-4M addition. Yes

Please feel free to add subtract edit rip apart etc.

But do go on record
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
lol the flyers invited jvr little brother to rookie camp
- griouxmvp2012


“@D_LEED: Try this again, Trevor van Riemsdyk, James younger brother, and Greg Coburn, Braydon’s younger brother both invited to Flyers camp.”
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
“@D_LEED: Try this again, Trevor van Riemsdyk, James younger brother, and Greg Coburn, Braydon’s younger brother both invited to Flyers camp.”
- funmaster18

TVR
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
Flyers' summer rookie camp roster. Clapperton is an interesting wildcard, ala Hyka last year (but actually eligible to be signed).

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=636334

- bmeltzer

I'm still interested in seeing how Blake Kessel does this season.
Is Justin Hamonic related to the Islanders guy?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
TVR
- griouxmvp2012


If at first you don't succeed, try, Trevor next time.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:19 PM ET
TVR
- griouxmvp2012



Haaaaaa
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