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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:06 PM ET
confessions of a Flyers fan....


cough....trades, free agents, grass is always greener....
phantasm
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:06 PM ET
I don't think he'll play power play (has trouble get shots through and on net) but I have always thought he's a underrated passer.
- bmeltzer


I think most people would be surprised to hear that Schenn led all Leaf defensemen last season in even strengh (5v5) points per 60 mins on the ice. While he's not likely to ever be a 40-50 point guy, 30+ isn't out of the question in the future. That kind of production plus the physical defense he brings could be an increasingly valuable asset as he continues to develop.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:14 PM ET
Man i like this kid! Hes got the potential to be great. So many people crap on him but they have to remember hes only 22!
- Philly1980


Hell yeah. Schenn is going to be a monster here.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:18 PM ET
Hell yeah. Schenn is going to be a monster here.
- stveshdy

The schenn brothers are gonna be the bash brothers I bet the are 1and 2 on the flyerss for hits next year
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 28 @ 5:20 PM ET
Apparently the next big thing. This kid better come in and be a beast.
- stveshdy

I hope every team that plays this kid hits him and hits him extremely hard. This is one of the most pathetic and shameful things I have seen in a while. I expect this kind of crap out of the NBA.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:22 PM ET
The schenn brothers are gonna be the bash brothers I bet the are 1and 2 on the flyerss for hits next year
- griouxmvp2012


Most likely. Opening night is against Boston and I want to see Schenn, Luke lay the wood to Lucic.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:24 PM ET
I hope every team that plays this kid hits him and hits him extremely hard. This is one of the most pathetic and shameful things I have seen in a while. I expect this kind of crap out of the NBA.
- Flyers1218


Not the way I would want to enter the NHL. He is coming off like a ME guy which is more important than the team he signs with.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 28 @ 5:25 PM ET
Not the way I would want to enter the NHL. He is coming off like a ME guy which is more important than the team he signs with.
- stveshdy

I'm sorry, but if you haven't ever played a minute in the NHL, you have to have some balls and arrogance to tell a franchise like the Detroit Red Wings no. It's disgusting.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
I'm sorry, but if you haven't ever played a minute in the NHL, you have to have some balls and arrogance to tell a franchise like the Detroit Red Wings no. It's disgusting.
- Flyers1218


He has the right to tell Detroit no and I'm sure they are doing it with class. Hes a free agent so he has that right to pick where ever he wants to go.

Will soon find out if he is worth the hype.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:30 PM ET
I'm sorry, but if you haven't ever played a minute in the NHL, you have to have some balls and arrogance to tell a franchise like the Detroit Red Wings no. It's disgusting.
- Flyers1218


Arrogant like Lindros?

The kid and his agent are not talking trash or giving interviews. He's politely telling teams he won't sign with them asap so they can carry on making other plans.

He says he wants to play in a hockey market and play top 4 minutes. Sure, he's got some stones to do what he's doing. But that's the kind of guy I want on my team. If he can actually play that is. And all signs point to him being a player.

I've got no problem with it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:33 PM ET
Arrogant like Lindros?

The kid and his agent are not talking trash or giving interviews. He's politely telling teams he won't sign with them asap so they can carry on making other plans.

He says he wants to play in a hockey market and play top 4 minutes. Sure, he's got some stones to do what he's doing. But that's the kind of guy I want on my team. If he can actually play that is. And all signs point to him being a player.

I've got no problem with it.

- rockychocbill


No doubt Rocky...
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:34 PM ET
Arrogant like Lindros?

The kid and his agent are not talking trash or giving interviews. He's politely telling teams he won't sign with them asap so they can carry on making other plans.

He says he wants to play in a hockey market and play top 4 minutes. Sure, he's got some stones to do what he's doing. But that's the kind of guy I want on my team. If he can actually play that is. And all signs point to him being a player.

I've got no problem with it.

- rockychocbill


He's just the same as any UFA. The only weird thing about it is he can talk to teams 5 or whatever days before the rest of everyone else can. So this guy is all the media can focus on. I don't get the hate
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:34 PM ET
Arrogant like Lindros?

The kid and his agent are not talking trash or giving interviews. He's politely telling teams he won't sign with them asap so they can carry on making other plans.

He says he wants to play in a hockey market and play top 4 minutes. Sure, he's got some stones to do what he's doing. But that's the kind of guy I want on my team. If he can actually play that is. And all signs point to him being a player.

I've got no problem with it.

- rockychocbill

The guys on NHL radio agree with you.
They said its the last time Schultz will have any leverage until he become UFA.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 5:35 PM ET
Arrogant like Lindros?

The kid and his agent are not talking trash or giving interviews. He's politely telling teams he won't sign with them asap so they can carry on making other plans.

He says he wants to play in a hockey market and play top 4 minutes. Sure, he's got some stones to do what he's doing. But that's the kind of guy I want on my team. If he can actually play that is. And all signs point to him being a player.

I've got no problem with it.

- rockychocbill


I agree 100%
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 5:38 PM ET
this guy is too much.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

lol i cant blame him for trying to find the best fit

you would've despised Lindros
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:40 PM ET
Arrogant like Lindros?

The kid and his agent are not talking trash or giving interviews. He's politely telling teams he won't sign with them asap so they can carry on making other plans.

He says he wants to play in a hockey market and play top 4 minutes. Sure, he's got some stones to do what he's doing. But that's the kind of guy I want on my team. If he can actually play that is. And all signs point to him being a player.

I've got no problem with it.

- rockychocbill

I doubt he will get to play top 4 minutes in NY or Vancouver, or even Toronto.

No team can guarantee him that anyway.

If he is like minus 20 after 15 games he could get sent down.

I have no problem him picking his spot, but doubt a GM will guarantee him a top 4 role.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:41 PM ET
I doubt he will get to play top 4 minutes in NY or Vancouver, or even Toronto.

No team can guarantee him that anyway.

If he is like minus 20 after 15 games he could get sent down.

I have no problem him picking his spot, but doubt a GM will guarantee him a top 4 role.

- Marc D


Who needs Schultz when we have Schenn.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:41 PM ET
He's just the same as any UFA. The only weird thing about it is he can talk to teams 5 or whatever days before the rest of everyone else can. So this guy is all the media can focus on. I don't get the hate
- eayost


Exactly. And I'm sure he'll get booed every time he plays in Anaheim. Or Detroit. Or Ottawa or whatever other city doesn't land him. Stoopid fans. Just go read the NHL message board.

If I'm him I sign with EDM. He's played in Wisconsin. Cold winters. Meh.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 5:42 PM ET
Exactly. And I'm sure he'll get booed every time he plays in Anaheim. Or Detroit. Or Ottawa or whatever other city doesn't land him. Stoopid fans. Just go read the NHL message board.

If I'm him I sign with EDM. He's played in Wisconsin. Cold winters. Meh.

- rockychocbill


I would go to Edmonton b/c they need defense bad and they are a very young team. Perfect fit.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
I doubt he will get to play top 4 minutes in NY or Vancouver, or even Toronto.

No team can guarantee him that anyway.

If he is like minus 20 after 15 games he could get sent down.

I have no problem him picking his spot, but doubt a GM will guarantee him a top 4 role.

- Marc D


He's got multiple bonuses built into his contract. That's really why he's looking for some assurance of top 4 minutes. He doesn't want to get jacked out of a legitimate shot at the bonus money. But like you said, it's all a moot point and he'll be the next Stephan Whatshisface if he can't back any of this up.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
Who needs Schultz when we have Schenn.
- stveshdy

You mean Carle
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
I'm sorry, but if you haven't ever played a minute in the NHL, you have to have some balls and arrogance to tell a franchise like the Detroit Red Wings no. It's disgusting.
- Flyers1218


He has every right to tell a team he isn't going to sign with them. He can only say yes to one franchise. He doesn't owe Detroit anything.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
Exactly. And I'm sure he'll get booed every time he plays in Anaheim. Or Detroit. Or Ottawa or whatever other city doesn't land him. Stoopid fans. Just go read the NHL message board.

If I'm him I sign with EDM. He's played in Wisconsin. Cold winters. Meh.

- rockychocbill


seems like his best bet for guaranteed top 4 minutes. don't seem like they have any problems sitting through the growing pains with young players
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:46 PM ET
Who needs Schultz when we have Schenn.
- stveshdy

I wasn't happy with the JVR deal at first, but I am getting really excited to watch L Schenn play.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:46 PM ET
He has every right to tell a team he isn't going to sign with them. He can only say yes to one franchise. He doesn't owe Detroit anything.
- MJL

Why won't he just play for Anaheim, think someone told me but can't remember #migraine today.
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