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Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
Schnieder is a loyal team mate and only wants what's best for the Canucks ... Tallon (who has Markstrom waiting in the wings) is desperate to bring in a goalie with a 10 year contract .... Gillis holds all the cards .... unicorns in Stanley Park

What a happy little world you live in.

- Canada Cup


Yes Schneider loves it here. He wants to be the starter here. He'll wait and sign a long term extension. Markstrom has his question marks. It's not certain his knees will hold up and it's not certain he'll stay there long term. He hasn't been that consistent at the AHL level or shown the best attitude to warrant a starting position in the NHL. He's got all the talent in the world but with some question marks. Ummmm Luongo has around 6 years left. Not playing out the last four.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
You know nothing. If Gillis wants Lu he is under contract .If Gillis wants Schneider he signs him long term. How is that not having the power .It is Gillis who will decide what happens to Van goalie situation,not Lu or Schneider. Enjoy you WANT FEST all you want. We are in no danger of losing Schneider.
- VANTEL

You're the UG of Canucks fans...

Since when do you know what Gillis is thinking?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:51 AM ET
Yes Schneider loves it here. He wants to be the starter here. He'll wait and sign a long term extension. Markstrom has his question marks. It's not certain his knees will hold up and it's not certain he'll stay there long term. He hasn't been that consistent at the AHL level or shown the best attitude to warrant a starting position in the NHL. He's got all the talent in the world but with some question marks. Ummmm Luongo has around 6 years left. Not playing out the last four.
- Boinker



Exactly -- he'll wait till Gillis cleans up the mess he made with Luongo
mgerow
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hanover, PA
Joined: 01.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:52 AM ET
That's interesting because I have heard of a 3 year extension worth 13M
- celata29


I think what you heard was just a sports writer pontificating on Twitter:

"Kevin Paul Dupont ‏@GlobeKPD
Sticking with my estimate on Rask: 3 years approx $13 million. Increase AAV if more than 3 years."
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:53 AM ET
Yes Schneider loves it here. He wants to be the starter here. He'll wait and sign a long term extension. Markstrom has his question marks. It's not certain his knees will hold up and it's not certain he'll stay there long term. He hasn't been that consistent at the AHL level or shown the best attitude to warrant a starting position in the NHL. He's got all the talent in the world but with some question marks. Ummmm Luongo has around 6 years left. Not playing out the last four.
- Boinker

Ummmmm nope!

That has to be the worst way to look at it from any GM's perspective. It's ultimately how you end up with a 43yr old back-up that you're paying $5.3MM for.
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
Ummmmm nope!

That has to be the worst way to look at it from any GM's perspective. It's ultimately how you end up with a 43yr old back-up that you're paying $5.3MM for.

- Pen15


The one thing I will give them is that 5.3 is the cap number. Not actual dollars paid. His salary is much, much less then that.

That's about all I'll give them though. His cap hit is all that ultimately matters.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
The one thing I will give them is that 5.3 is the cap number. Not actual dollars paid. His salary is much, much less then that.

That's about all I'll give them though. His cap hit is all that ultimately matters.

- Canadian kid

That's what I meant by paying....the amount that goes against the cap.

I could care less what they ACTUALLY pay him....MLSE has a bottomless money pit.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
I think what you heard was just a sports writer pontificating on Twitter:

"Kevin Paul Dupont ‏@GlobeKPD
Sticking with my estimate on Rask: 3 years approx $13 million. Increase AAV if more than 3 years."

- mgerow

UHH...I saw that from him posted on a different website and they didn't include the fact that he was estimating...jerks
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:59 AM ET
I can totally see why Rask would sign a one year deal...he's been jerked around in Boston and the teams previous savior is touting he wants to come back after a year away...who knows what could happen.

Add to the fact the money in FA over what he Bruins will probably want to pay him as an untested RFA..well, you can see the line of thinking.

Boston is a tougher spot then Vancouver right now in terms of tending. They have to sign Rask but also have to figure in Thomas's salary this year and next.

What a kick to the gonads of Chirielli...I wonder if his experience will make him think twice about signing a guy 35+....

- Canadian kid


This year, not next. It's the final year of his contract ... they can toll it if they want, but they're more likely to let him walk. Thomas has played his last game as a Bruin.

This would be more about sacrificing some money this year to cash in on leverage of his UFA status next year. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a 1 year deal at a lower hit, then come mid-season sign a long term extension at big $ beginning in 2013 when TT's cap is off the books. It's a win for both sides. Bruins get a lower cap hit this year with limited space, Rask gets more $ in the long run by not selling UFA years on this contract.

Clearly there would be a risk that Rask bolts, but in no way has Boston "jerked him around". His goaltending partner is a 2 time Vezina winner with a Conn Smythe to go along with it ... if he were the better goaltender, he would have played. Now's his time to show what he can do.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
This year, not next. It's the final year of his contract ... they can toll it if they want, but they're more likely to let him walk. Thomas has played his last game as a Bruin.

This would be more about sacrificing some money this year to cash in on leverage of his UFA status next year. I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a 1 year deal at a lower hit, then come mid-season sign a long term extension at big $ beginning in 2013 when TT's cap is off the books. It's a win for both sides. Bruins get a lower cap hit this year with limited space, Rask gets more $ in the long run by not selling UFA years on this contract.

Clearly there would be a risk that Rask bolts, but in no way has Boston "jerked him around". His goaltending partner is a 2 time Vezina winner with a Conn Smythe to go along with it ... if he were the better goaltender, he would have played. Now's his time to show what he can do.

- Double_A

Yeah the Bruins never jerked him around...he knew he was in to ride the bench and learn to the keys were handed to him. It just so happened that in 2010 they were loaned to him for a bit.
Aliaksandrhn
San Jose Sharks
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
Eklund: Rask and Schneider 1 yr. Extensions?
- Eklund

So let me see...
A week ago "trade winds were blowing" and "something was brewing" - nothing happens. 3 days ago it was "expect some big moves within the next 24-48 hours" - zilch, except for the epic Wideman trade. Promises of "more to come later tonight" and promises of providing updates that are rarely fulfilled or followed by blogs with completely different rumors. Still waiting for that update of that mysterious Western Conference team "looking to have the most aggressive summer yet" promised a few weeks ago.
And some people are actually paying money for this?
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
Ummmmm nope!

That has to be the worst way to look at it from any GM's perspective. It's ultimately how you end up with a 43yr old back-up that you're paying $5.3MM for.

- Pen15


He's not playing for one million as season you moron. He has a family to raise he's already, by that point, past 80 million in earnings. He's got imo 4-6 years left of great goaltending. I honestly hope he goes to Florida so I can see the Leafs go down in flames again. It'd look good on you guys.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
You know nothing. If Gillis wants Lu he is under contract .If Gillis wants Schneider he signs him long term. How is that not having the power .It is Gillis who will decide what happens to Van goalie situation,not Lu or Schneider. Enjoy you WANT FEST all you want. We are in no danger of losing Schneider.
- VANTEL


you actually think gillis can keep luongo in vancouver after all this?

that's almost as funny as you thinking luongo will get clowe and havlat

did i say your losing schneider? no. he is gillis' top priority, and will definitely have him locked up long term. im saying luongo will be traded for less than market value. gillis has no leverage, luongo obviously wants out, luongo has the nmc, everyone knows gillis wont start the season with schneider and luongo in net (probably over 10M+), there is no demand for luongo because of his contract, and there is no demand because there arent many teams that need a goalie now. the time to move luongo for fair value has passed, teams that need a goalie are getting smaller and smaller. tampa got lindback, columbus got bobs. it's down to toronto, florida, chicago..lu wont waive to chicago, and florida has markstrom who's pretty much nhl ready at least by next year. so yea, it's down to toronto. just accept that luongo will be traded for less than market value, it's okay man, everyone makes mistakes. or we can just wait until he does get traded so i can prove you wrong. CLOWE AND HAVLAT FOR LUONGO??
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
So let me see...
A week ago "trade winds were blowing" and "something was brewing" - nothing happens. 3 days ago it was "expect some big moves within the next 24-48 hours" - zilch, except for the epic Wideman trade. Promises of "more to come later tonight" and promises of providing updates that are rarely fulfilled or followed by blogs with completely different rumors. Still waiting for that update of that mysterious Western Conference team "looking to have the most aggressive summer yet" promised a few weeks ago.
And some people are actually paying money for this?

- Aliaksandrhn


I'll tell you what Ek's thinking....

Nobody's forcing you to pay for anything, and no one forces you to come onto this site. Take this for what it's worth - entertainment, and some (sometimes) decent discussion.

Feel free to excercise your right to not visit this site.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
He's not playing for one million as season you moron. He has a family to raise he's already, by that point, past 80 million in earnings. He's got imo 4-6 years left of great goaltending. I honestly hope he goes to Florida so I can see the Leafs go down in flames again. It'd look good on you guys.
- Boinker



Go to your happy place Boinker. Everything is going to be ok
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
Yeah the Bruins never jerked him around...he knew he was in to ride the bench and learn to the keys were handed to him. It just so happened that in 2010 they were loaned to him for a bit.
- celata29


Yep ... he's been a good soldier ... he's earned his shot now and I have a good feeling he'll take it and run.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
He's not playing for one million as season you moron. He has a family to raise he's already, by that point, past 80 million in earnings. He's got imo 4-6 years left of great goaltending. I honestly hope he goes to Florida so I can see the Leafs go down in flames again. It'd look good on you guys.
- Boinker

The only moronic comment is your assumption that Luongo will retire before his contract is up. This may or may not be the case...but basing your valuation off of that assumption is nothing but vancouver homerism...

And I don't understand your first sentence....is his cap hit not $5.3MM? And is his term not 10yrs? And is he not 33-34? Does that not make him a 43-44yr old goalie with a cap hit of $5.3MM in 10yrs from now?

And last but not least....Luongo has no more than 3 MAYBE 4 good years left. Claiming he can still be a great goaltender at the age of 39-40 is simply asinine.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
Check that ... apparently Rask is still RFA next year although he'd have arbitration rights. 1 year deal would be ideal for B's in this situation.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
Yes Schneider loves it here. He wants to be the starter here. He'll wait and sign a long term extension. Markstrom has his question marks. It's not certain his knees will hold up and it's not certain he'll stay there long term. He hasn't been that consistent at the AHL level or shown the best attitude to warrant a starting position in the NHL. He's got all the talent in the world but with some question marks. Ummmm Luongo has around 6 years left. Not playing out the last four.
- Boinker



do you know this as a fact or is this fiction you are spuing.

it's 10 yrs left on his contract.
and I can say that he will be trade to toronna for komisarik (sp)

it just uneducated to say he will only play for 6 more years.
acresd
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.02.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
He's not playing for one million as season you moron. He has a family to raise he's already, by that point, past 80 million in earnings. He's got imo 4-6 years left of great goaltending. I honestly hope he goes to Florida so I can see the Leafs go down in flames again. It'd look good on you guys.
- Boinker



and it would look god on your guys that Schneider bolts for another team, cause no one will ever pay top dollar for luongo right now. GM's know (as reported on numerous Sports chanels) that Gillis HAS to move a goalie.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
The Bruins are in a tough negotiating spot with Tuukka. They need him now with Thomas out, and Rask/Thomas have the same agent. I'm sure the Bruins want a longer deal, but his agent would only want one year so Rask can get a huge raise if he has a great season and being a UFA after a one year deal. Smart move for Rask, his side has the leverage.
acresd
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.02.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
The only moronic comment is your assumption that Luongo will retire before his contract is up. This may or may not be the case...but basing your valuation off of that assumption is nothing but vancouver homerism...

And I don't understand your first sentence....is his cap hit not $5.3MM? And is his term not 10yrs? And is he not 33-34? Does that not make him a 43-44yr old goalie with a cap hit of $5.3MM in 10yrs from now?

And last but not least....Luongo has no more than 3 MAYBE 4 good years left. Claiming he can still be a great goaltender at the age of 39-40 is simply asinine.

- Pen15



and they say the leaf fans are over valuing their players. Everyone but a Canucks fans knows that Gillis is in a bad situation.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
Check that ... apparently Rask is still RFA next year although he'd have arbitration rights. 1 year deal would be ideal for B's in this situation.
- Double_A


In that case my previous post would make no sense, so thanks for the info
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
In that case my previous post would make no sense, so thanks for the info
- GSDIV

Good news. I didn't know that
P-Nut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto , ON
Joined: 05.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
The Leafs are the team that's DESPERATE for goaltending. Going into another year with Reimer the Leafs will finish in the bottom. If Florida wants some momentum and makes the playoffs next year they need Luongo. I dont care what people say the east is getting better and Florida will not make the playoffs with Theodore again. I guarantee there's more teams but hasn't been released.

Gillis holds things close to the chest. Gillis has the leverage. We have two franchise goalies....a young Justin Schultz on the verge of signing and the steal of the draft in Brendan Gaunce. Gillis about to reload this team for a cup run now and for the team's future. Get used to the Canucks at the top. Leafs better move accordingly or they'll be at the bottom again.

- Boinker


please dont make guarantees, this is a rumor site. the only thing gillis has leverage of is his twig n berries
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