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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:12 AM ET
Agreed. Gillis isn't an idiot. He wouldn't risk being left without a goalie after this season, just to sign Schneider to a one year deal.

IF he's going to move Luongo, I think he'll want a guarantee from Schneider in the form of a multi-year contract. If he can't get that he'll probably keep Luongo and trade Schneids for a higher return.

- Scruffton

Exactly
jarmstrong
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: much of what I write would nev
Joined: 09.20.2005

Jun 28 @ 10:13 AM ET
for rask? hearing somewhere south of 4
- Eklund


(read) see posts above this one
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
Exactly
- VANTEL



He will wait a little longer......... if Gillis does not move Lu then he will sign a one year contract and test free agency.

Plain and simple

If he signs a one year contract......... HE WILL TEST BEING A UFA NEXT SUMMER

Book it!!!!!!!!!!!!
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 28 @ 10:15 AM ET
i heard it, but its really sounding like a one year
- Eklund

I think Rask would be dumb to do only one...if you're chiarelli, would u not be pushing the fact that Thomas is in the twilight of his career, you've got Thomas on the block, and that if Thomas comes back he'll be a backup. I mean I don't disbelieve what your telling us but I think Rask has to think this through if hes seriously considering only a one year deal.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:15 AM ET
You think there's a possibility Schneider could sign an offer sheet if presented with one?
- p_zub

it would be funny if burke threw him an offer sheet
Francois Leroux
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: New Castle, DE
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
What happened to the blog from yesterday?
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
You think there's a possibility Schneider could sign an offer sheet if presented with one?
- p_zub

Yup, but the Canucks would match up to 5 mill.
acresd
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.02.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
Gillis will not let go a goalie he has under contract for 6 more years to sign a goalie for one year. If Schneider is only going to sign for one year it will be for someone else. Don't get excited Leaf fans Gillis hates Burke and has 10 other teams to choose from.
- VANTEL



Just in case you have not noticed. There are a lot of leaf fans that do not want Luongo.
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
I can totally see why Rask would sign a one year deal...he's been jerked around in Boston and the teams previous savior is touting he wants to come back after a year away...who knows what could happen.

Add to the fact the money in FA over what he Bruins will probably want to pay him as an untested RFA..well, you can see the line of thinking.

Boston is a tougher spot then Vancouver right now in terms of tending. They have to sign Rask but also have to figure in Thomas's salary this year and next.

What a kick to the gonads of Chirielli...I wonder if his experience will make him think twice about signing a guy 35+....
darcyhasheart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:18 AM ET
Gillis will not let go a goalie he has under contract for 6 more years to sign a goalie for one year. If Schneider is only going to sign for one year it will be for someone else. Don't get excited Leaf fans Gillis hates Burke and has 10 other teams to choose from.
- VANTEL


I'll only get excited when Lou signs with another team and we don't have to worry about taking on that contract any more.
celata29
Boston Bruins
Location: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. D, MA
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:19 AM ET
I can totally see why Rask would sign a one year deal...he's been jerked around in Boston and the teams previous savior is touting he wants to come back after a year away...who knows what could happen.

Add to the fact the money in FA over what he Bruins will probably want to pay him as an untested RFA..well, you can see the line of thinking.

Boston is a tougher spot then Vancouver right now in terms of tending. They have to sign Rask but also have to figure in Thomas's salary this year and next.

What a kick to the gonads of Chirielli...I wonder if his experience will make him think twice about signing a guy 35+....

- Canadian kid

Yeah Thomas really put his nuts in a vice grip...I was one of the few that wanted to trade Thomas last summer. Everyone called me crazy
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:21 AM ET
it would be funny if burke threw him an offer sheet
- homiedclown



Not sure what that accomplishes. Canucks would match and it's not clear that Schnieder would sign it anyway. In some ways, Burke is better off with the Schnieder issue being unresolved as it keeps the pressure on Gillis to move Luongo to get Schniedr to sign.

It seems that it is all coming down to Roberto and Tallon. Seems that Luongo is saying Panthers and Tallon is saying no thanks or at least no to anything going back to Canucks. If he holds back and Gillis knows that Burke will pay something more, Gillis has to go to Luongo to see if he'll accept a move to TO.

This is all assuming that some of the rumours floating around about who is saying what are true.

Ek will explain all shortly.
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:23 AM ET
Exactly
- VANTEL


The problem is the suitors for Lou. You can claim up and down that they're a ton of teams who'd want him...and that would be true....but in reality the amount of teams who could take him is significantly smaller.

I don't even think he ends up on Toronto...nor do I think he'll fetch as small a return as some pundits seem to think....but really, your team is bent over a barrel right now...you either trade Lou for below market value quickly before teams spend money during FA...or you move him after FA when some team is left at the dance without a tender....but was that team looking for a number 1? Also consider you're taking a risk that team will actually be able to afford the contract at that point in time.

All this isn't even considering Schneider whom once Lou is traded now has a copious amount of bargaining power and will more then likely strike it rich. It's nuts.



Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:23 AM ET
He will wait a little longer......... if Gillis does not move Lu then he will sign a one year contract and test free agency.

Plain and simple

If he signs a one year contract......... HE WILL TEST BEING A UFA NEXT SUMMER

Book it!!!!!!!!!!!!

- faceto27


and go to the Leafs? Naw Schneider loves it here. He'll be locked up.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:24 AM ET
Gillis will not let go a goalie he has under contract for 6 more years to sign a goalie for one year. If Schneider is only going to sign for one year it will be for someone else. Don't get excited Leaf fans Gillis hates Burke and has 10 other teams to choose from.
- VANTEL


look at the change in heart. what ever happened to gillis having all the leverage and he has no problem keeping both goalies to start the season? funny how i know the nucks better than you. luongo isnt going to get a huge return, he'll get the return i told you he would get.
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:30 AM ET
He will wait a little longer......... if Gillis does not move Lu then he will sign a one year contract and test free agency.

Plain and simple

If he signs a one year contract......... HE WILL TEST BEING A UFA NEXT SUMMER

Book it!!!!!!!!!!!!

- faceto27


facetopalm...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:30 AM ET
look at the change in heart. what ever happened to gillis having all the leverage and he has no problem keeping both goalies to start the season? funny how i know the nucks better than you. luongo isnt going to get a huge return, he'll get the return i told you he would get.
- sensnucksnocups



You know nothing. If Gillis wants Lu he is under contract .If Gillis wants Schneider he signs him long term. How is that not having the power .It is Gillis who will decide what happens to Van goalie situation,not Lu or Schneider. Enjoy you WANT FEST all you want. We are in no danger of losing Schneider.
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
Yeah, I wouldn't count on being "loyal teammates" in cases like this. He can be just a loyal teammate to 29 other teams in this league. Until Luongo is gone, he'll continue to be used as a second-rate starter, so that Vancouver can play Luongo to maximize his trade value. Schneider won't do the "nice" thing and wait out another 2 years for Gillis to get his poop together.
- p_zub


This could also be a tactic by Gillis to drive up the price on trading Luongo, which is a smart move. Say to Schnieder, you're the man, but let's do a 1-year deal to make it look like there's uncertainty regarding your inclination to stay here long term, thereby making Luongo seem like my long-term option.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
You know nothing. If Gillis wants Lu he is under contract .If Gillis wants Schneider he signs him long term. How is that not having the power .It is Gillis who will decide what happens to Van goalie situation,not Lu or Schneider. Enjoy you WANT FEST all you want. We are in no danger of losing Schneider.
- VANTEL



Why does Schnieder sign before Luo situation resolved?
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
look at the change in heart. what ever happened to gillis having all the leverage and he has no problem keeping both goalies to start the season? funny how i know the nucks better than you. luongo isnt going to get a huge return, he'll get the return i told you he would get.
- sensnucksnocups


The Leafs are the team that's DESPERATE for goaltending. Going into another year with Reimer the Leafs will finish in the bottom. If Florida wants some momentum and makes the playoffs next year they need Luongo. I dont care what people say the east is getting better and Florida will not make the playoffs with Theodore again. I guarantee there's more teams but hasn't been released.

Gillis holds things close to the chest. Gillis has the leverage. We have two franchise goalies....a young Justin Schultz on the verge of signing and the steal of the draft in Brendan Gaunce. Gillis about to reload this team for a cup run now and for the team's future. Get used to the Canucks at the top. Leafs better move accordingly or they'll be at the bottom again.
Bodhisattva
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
You know nothing. If Gillis wants Lu he is under contract .If Gillis wants Schneider he signs him long term. How is that not having the power .It is Gillis who will decide what happens to Van goalie situation,not Lu or Schneider. Enjoy you WANT FEST all you want. We are in no danger of losing Schneider.
- VANTEL


How do you know that Schneider wants to be there long term? Are you guessing?
Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
You know nothing. If Gillis wants Lu he is under contract .If Gillis wants Schneider he signs him long term. How is that not having the power .It is Gillis who will decide what happens to Van goalie situation,not Lu or Schneider. Enjoy you WANT FEST all you want. We are in no danger of losing Schneider.
- VANTEL


You can try and wield the big stick all you want but the reality is if you carry both goalies you will have close to or over 10 million in tenders on the roster. Granted, this would hurt a team that didn't spend to the cap more but you have to figure that you haven't been able to win the cup the last couple years with the team you currently have so trying to augment it will be important. That is infinitely harder when you tie up unnecessary resources so you can tout having an all star back up netminder who won't see more then 30-35 games of playing time.

But go ahead thump your chest and tell the hockey world we'll be fine. I'd love to see how that works out for you. Those two will get along just fine...nothing bad could come of the situation.

Canadian kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
This could also be a tactic by Gillis to drive up the price on trading Luongo, which is a smart move. Say to Schnieder, you're the man, but let's do a 1-year deal to make it look like there's uncertainty regarding your inclination to stay here long term, thereby making Luongo seem like my long-term option.
- Ballsackian


...you don't play with your long term future by doing something like that. What if he turns around at the end of the year and says I don't like it here anymore. My GF is from the east and wants to go back home - I think I'll look out there.

Suddenly you have a UFA G whom three quarters of the league would be tripping over to sign. It'd be a nightmare for Vancouver and you'd never, ever let even the possibility of that happen. Not if you have any idea on how to manage assets.

Vancouver signed Lou to that deal...now they have to live with the consequences. They knew what the deal was when they signed it.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
Why one year only?
- VANTEL

because playing in vancouver sucks.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:46 AM ET
The Leafs are the team that's DESPERATE for goaltending. Going into another year with Reimer the Leafs will finish in the bottom. If Florida wants some momentum and makes the playoffs next year they need Luongo. I dont care what people say the east is getting better and Florida will not make the playoffs with Theodore again. I guarantee there's more teams but hasn't been released.

Gillis holds things close to the chest. Gillis has the leverage. We have two franchise goalies....a young Justin Schultz on the verge of signing and the steal of the draft in Brendan Gaunce. Gillis about to reload this team for a cup run now and for the team's future. Get used to the Canucks at the top. Leafs better move accordingly or they'll be at the bottom again.

- Boinker



Schnieder is a loyal team mate and only wants what's best for the Canucks ... Tallon (who has Markstrom waiting in the wings) is desperate to bring in a goalie with a 10 year contract .... Gillis holds all the cards .... unicorns in Stanley Park

What a happy little world you live in.
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