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StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:35 PM ET
The only reasoning I can guess on why Shultz does not want to play in Anaheim is because of Gardiner leaving. Maybe Gardiner talked poop about the Anaheim organization after the pick. Maybe Shultz said he'd play in Anaheim because of Gardiner, and once Gardiner left, Shultz wanted no part.

The Bobby Ryan debacle may shed some insight into how badly the Ducks are run, and that could possibly be a similar factor into why Shutz decided not to sign in Anaheim.

But a telling factor for me is he is using a little known loophole in the CBA. The source of that loophole I believe could have only originated from his agent.

Bits and pieces here and there I believe eventually led to him not wanting to play in Anaheim and instead play in native Canada where he will gain considerably more exposure and possibly more money.
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
4. Ya wouldn't surprise me if it was indeed by design that Tambo isn't there but probably not.

I wonder if Mac-T thinks: Do I really want this smug, gulping, nearly unintelligible eye sack at these meetings with The Shultz?

- Salvo


Their thinking must have been they were scared that if Schultz asked Tambs any questions he would give the most vague answers ever
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:38 PM ET
The only reasoning I can guess on why Shultz does not want to play in Anaheim is because of Gardiner leaving. Maybe Gardiner talked poop about the Anaheim organization after the pick. Maybe Shultz said he'd play in Anaheim because of Gardiner, and once Gardiner left, Shultz wanted no part.

The Bobby Ryan debacle may shed some insight into how badly the Ducks are run, and that could possibly be a similar factor into why Shutz decided not to sign in Anaheim.

But a telling factor for me is he is using a little known loophole in the CBA. The source of that loophole I believe could have only originated from his agent.

Bits and pieces here and there I believe eventually led to him not wanting to play in Anaheim and instead play in native Canada where he will gain considerably more exposure and possibly more money.

- StayTunedMTC

If it's all about Gardiner he'd be going to TOR no questions asked.

As for Ryan it was a coaching thing with Carlyle and Murray did drop the ball naming his name more than one.

That loophole Schultz used isn't exactly news to anyone.

One thing is for sure, Murray sure hurt himself when he dealt Lubo for nothing. How do you expect to convince Perry and Getzlaf to sign extensions if you are just giving assets away?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:39 PM ET
I really don't care what he gets on one year deals. Give him 2-3mil base and 2-3mil bonuses. I was just worried he gets a 2-3 deal and gets hurt or retires or continue to decline.
- Lahey


Yup.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:44 PM ET
The only reasoning I can guess on why Shultz does not want to play in Anaheim is because of Gardiner leaving. Maybe Gardiner talked poop about the Anaheim organization after the pick. Maybe Shultz said he'd play in Anaheim because of Gardiner, and once Gardiner left, Shultz wanted no part.

The Bobby Ryan debacle may shed some insight into how badly the Ducks are run, and that could possibly be a similar factor into why Shutz decided not to sign in Anaheim.

But a telling factor for me is he is using a little known loophole in the CBA. The source of that loophole I believe could have only originated from his agent.

Bits and pieces here and there I believe eventually led to him not wanting to play in Anaheim and instead play in native Canada where he will gain considerably more exposure and possibly more money.

- StayTunedMTC


They (frank)ed up big time with Ryan.

For a team and fanbase that have been complaining about a player showing no loyalty (Schultz), they certainly havent shown any to Ryan. Who signed a great contract at a great cap hit to stay in Anaheim.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:45 PM ET
They (frank)ed up big time with Ryan.

For a team and fanbase that have been complaining about a player showing no loyalty (Schultz), they certainly havent shown any to Ryan. Who signed a great contract at a great cap hit to stay in Anaheim.

- Leafs43

They are really in tough the next few years they don't really have a lot of guys that will be under contract.

Most guys are going to be UFA's and you have to wonder if they just say (frank) this and leave.
OilersFan1985
Joined: 02.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:48 PM ET
2012/2013 season:

Jack Adams: Ralph Krueger
Calder: Nail Yakupov
Hart: Jordan Eberle
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:49 PM ET
Anyone ever read, "Team Life -- Over Setbacks to Success"

StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:49 PM ET
They (frank)ed up big time with Ryan.

For a team and fanbase that have been complaining about a player showing no loyalty (Schultz), they certainly havent shown any to Ryan. Who signed a great contract at a great cap hit to stay in Anaheim.

- Leafs43

Yeah they did. For at least the last couple years, they've run a bad organization there. I don't know if ownership knows or cares at this point.

They're walking a fine line of going into mediocrity if they don't figure out how to run an organization the right way soon. No offense to the fans, but they don't have many fans to begin with, and if the team starts tanking, a lot of those fans will leave and then what?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:50 PM ET
2012/2013 season:

Jack Adams: Ralph Krueger
Calder: Nail Yakupov
Hart: Jordan Eberle

- OilersFan1985

Norris:J.Schultz
Vezina: D.Dubnyk
Masterton: T.Fedun(will comeback to our top pairing)
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:50 PM ET
They are really in tough the next few years they don't really have a lot of guys that will be under contract.

Most guys are going to be UFA's and you have to wonder if they just say (frank) this and leave.

- Lahey


I think they just might. They may have to sell off their entire top line in the next year. And if that happens, they will be looking at the first overall pick.
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:51 PM ET
2012/2013 season:

Jack Adams: Ralph Krueger
Calder: Nail Yakupov
Hart: Jordan Eberle

- OilersFan1985


Lady Byng: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Vezina: Deven Dubnyk
Art Ross: Jordan Eberle
Ted Lindsay: Jordan Eberle
Selke: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Maurice Richard: Taylor Hall
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:54 PM ET
Anyone ever read, "Team Life -- Over Setbacks to Success"


- laughs2907

I haven't read a full book in 8 years and even then it was a biography.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:54 PM ET
I haven't read a full book in 8 years and even then it was a biography.
- Lahey

If Playboy counts as a book, I've read one book a month for years.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
Lady Byng: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Vezina: Deven Dubnyk
Art Ross: Jordan Eberle
Ted Lindsay: Jordan Eberle
Selke: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Maurice Richard: Taylor Hall

- ALEDDO

Messier- Hall
Hockey Order Of Canada-EBs
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
I think they just might. They may have to sell off their entire top line in the next year. And if that happens, they will be looking at the first overall pick.
- Leafs43

They (frank)ed up, they should've at least waited until Perry and Getzlaf were under contract before leaking Ryan's name, again.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
"I would have called this blog "10 Burning Questions" but that sounds too much like the title of a Calgary Flames blog. "

I would have used '10 Flaming Questions' for the Flames blog title myself... it just sounds right y'know?

Also describes Feasters hard-on for Wideman in overpaying... what a maroon
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
Lady Byng: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Vezina: Deven Dubnyk
Art Ross: Jordan Eberle
Ted Lindsay: Jordan Eberle
Selke: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Maurice Richard: Taylor Hall

- ALEDDO

I don't want the wussy award.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
If Playboy counts as a book, I've read one book a month for years.
- StayTunedMTC

Liar.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
I don't want the wussy award.
- Lahey

K give it to a sister, don't care which one.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:57 PM ET
If Playboy counts as a book, I've read one book a month for years.
- StayTunedMTC


You read the articles?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
K give it to a sister, don't care which one.
- doon

Laugh's?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
There are articles?
- laughs2907

Like the girls in playboy I touched up the comment for you.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
They (frank)ed up, they should've at least waited until Perry and Getzlaf were under contract before leaking Ryan's name, again.
- Lahey


It would be one hell of a rebuild though. Selling all three of Getzlaf, Perry, and Ryan. As well as getting a top pick.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
Laugh's?
- Lahey

He would be deserving.
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