That doesn't even make any sense considering Pavelec hasn't played a game into his new contract.
- mochoson

It doesn't make sense to you because you seem to be lacking any. Do I really have to break this down to grade school language for you? Would that help?

Is this forreal?
- mochoson

He put up better numbers on a team with worse defense...

Rabbit fur doesn't count
- Lahey

Bahahahahha, Just wait till the lion comes bro, you can get past a dog, nobody (frank)s with a lion.

Rabbit fur doesn't count
- Lahey

You've obviously never (frank)ed rabbit fur before.

It doesn't make sense to you because you seem to be lacking any. Do I really have to break this down to grade school language for you? Would that help?
- Hockey_Hoser

I would (frank)ing love to see this.

And he gets paid what for 1 month out of the year?
- Beergu

Nope, just saying that was the last time we could say a goalie stole wins for us consistently.

He put up better numbers on a team with worse defense...
- laughs2907

Talk to me when Dubnyks playing 68 games. There numbers arent (frank)ing comparable.

Jesus Christ. This poop isn't even hard.

Bahahahahha, Just wait till the lion comes bro, you can get past a dog, nobody (frank)s with a lion.
- ruttager17

You've obviously never (frank)ed rabbit fur before.
- laughs2907

Not true, I lined your sister's vag with rabbit fur.

He put up better numbers on a team with worse defense...
- laughs2907

Well then expect to pay him adequately for his performance.

Talk to me when Dubnyks playing 68 games. There numbers arent (frank)ing comparable.

Jesus Christ. This poop isn't even hard.
- mochoson

you know what IS hard ?

Calculus

Edmontons defense is bad. Yes. But so is Winnipeg's.

-They give up 30 shots a game.
-21st worst penalty kill in the league
-8 shorthanded goals against, 21st worst in the league
-21st worst f/o percentage

Not to mention Pavelec is a whopping 24 years old. He's a fantastic young goalie and is the only reason Winnipeg didn't finish 30th. Look at his stats all you want, stats never and never will tell the whole story.

3.9 million dollar cap hit for him is exceptional moving forward. That contract has the potential to be high-way robbery if Winnipeg ever figures themselves out defensively.

No, I am not comparing him and Dubnyk. The two are not comparable at this juncture. So before anyone gets their panties in a bunch and wants to reference Dubnyk or thinks I'm trying to say Pavelecs better, no. Kill yourself.

3.9 million is a steal for Pavelec, end of discussion.

Talk to me when Dubnyks playing 68 games. There numbers arent (frank)ing comparable.

Jesus Christ. This poop isn't even hard.
- mochoson

Yeah, even though you are being a giant D-bag today mochoson, this is a good point, its like saying a guy batting .405 with 25 games played is better than a guy batting .285 after playing a 162 game season. But just remember, Dubys numbers are after 47 games played so not that far off of pavy's but i suppose will take a whole season to compare more objectively. But pavelec still aint worth what hes getting paid

Edmontons defense is bad. Yes. But so is Winnipeg's.

-They give up 30 shots a game.
-21st worst penalty kill in the league
-8 shorthanded goals against, 21st worst in the league
-21st worst f/o percentage

Not to mention Pavelec is a whopping 24 years old. He's a fantastic young goalie and is the only reason Winnipeg didn't finish 30th. Look at his stats all you want, stats never and never will tell the whole story.

3.9 million dollar cap hit for him is exceptional moving forward. That contract has the potential to be high-way robbery if Winnipeg ever figures themselves out defensively.

No, I am not comparing him and Dubnyk. The two are not comparable at this juncture. So before anyone gets their panties in a bunch and wants to reference Dubnyk or thinks I'm trying to say Pavelecs better, no. Kill yourself.

3.9 million is a steal for Pavelec, end of discussion.
- mochoson

So what you are saying is he is the reason they don't have RNH and Yakupov on their teams. I wouldn't like the guy if I was a Jets fan.

Why don't you make the playoffs first, before you proclaim another Oiler's powerhouse!!! Glad you remain optimistic... But a lot is going to have to change for the oilers to even make the playoffs... I would say 4 NHL d men and an actual starting goalie. The Bottom SIX also need a lot of work. So Mr Nostradaumus Good luck with that.
- SMP8719

Very true... but it makes no sense to think vancouver is going to be a powerhouse every year down the road... the league is all about parity... yes we need defense but not 4 dmen... we do have alot of dmen in the system, we are stacked in the top 6, have a goalie that should be in place and a couple in the system.. our bottom 6 only requires 1 or so pieces and they may come from within... further its nice to see your team is back to trying to win a playoff series again... yippee you got to lose 4 more games than we did ...

Edmontons defense is bad. Yes. But so is Winnipeg's.

-They give up 30 shots a game.
-21st worst penalty kill in the league
-8 shorthanded goals against, 21st worst in the league
-21st worst f/o percentage

Not to mention Pavelec is a whopping 24 years old. He's a fantastic young goalie and is the only reason Winnipeg didn't finish 30th. Look at his stats all you want, stats never and never will tell the whole story.

3.9 million dollar cap hit for him is exceptional moving forward. That contract has the potential to be high-way robbery if Winnipeg ever figures themselves out defensively.

No, I am not comparing him and Dubnyk. The two are not comparable at this juncture. So before anyone gets their panties in a bunch and wants to reference Dubnyk or thinks I'm trying to say Pavelecs better, no. Kill yourself.

3.9 million is a steal for Pavelec, end of discussion.
- mochoson

He also won TSNs play of the year, if that in itself isn't worth that kind of money I don't know what is

I would (frank)ing love to see this.
- mochoson

You're quite entertaining so let's make this easy for you using facts.

Goalie A Career Stats and earns $800, 000/per year

http://forecaster.thehock...ws/hockey/player.cgi?4383

Let me point out the career gaa of 2.85 and sv% 0.910

Goalie B Career Stats and now earns on average 3.9 Million a season

http://forecaster.thehock...ws/hockey/player.cgi?5337

Let me point out a career gaa 2.99 and sv% 0.907.

Ok so now you're a GM with cap considerations and you need a goalie and these are your two options. Who do you take? Not Pavelec unless you're Feaster oh and Cheveldayoff.

There is no argument here. The numbers don't lie. Is it really that hard to figure out for you? So keep trolling, all you're doing is exposing yourself for your lack of true hockey knowledge. Congratulations buddy!

Rabbit fur doesn't count
- Lahey

GF is Gopher Fur, no?

GF is Gopher Fur, no?
- Beergu

Gorilla face

How the (frank) does this clown still have a job?

I am confident that there are NUMEROUS posters on HB that could run that team better than Burke!

Stupid trades (See Kessel)
Stupid drafting (See Kadri)
Stupid FA signings (See Connolly)
Stupid decisions (Giving Phaneuf the C, not having any goaltending)

This is actually quite sad to watch, and that's pretty (frank)in' sad coming from a Flames fan!
- As_I_See_It

Talk to me when Dubnyks playing 68 games. There numbers arent (frank)ing comparable.

Jesus Christ. This poop isn't even hard.
- mochoson

It's not Dubnyk's fault that Oilers management is being way too loyal to their vodka loving Russian goaltender...

You're right though... Pavelec getting to play more games eliminates the fact that Dubnyk had better numbers playing for a team with worse defense.

68GP 2.91GAA .906SV% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 47GP 2.67GAA .914SV%

Continuing on with that logic,

82GP 3.42GAA .889SV% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 68GP 2.91GAA .906SV%

How the (frank) does this clown still have a job?

I am confident that there are NUMEROUS posters on HB that could run that team better than Burke!

Stupid trades (See Kessel)
Stupid drafting (See Kadri)
Stupid FA signings (See Connolly)
Stupid decisions (Giving Phaneuf the C, not having any goaltending)

This is actually quite sad to watch, and that's pretty (frank)in' sad coming from a Flames fan!
- As_I_See_It

- The-O-G

Ooooooh, burn, what you got to say to THAT Leafs fans? Let those Flames have it

For fans that have to constantly defend guys like Hemsky and Gagner from comments from mouths of those who clearly have never watched them play....well....your all just being very ironic right now. Ill say that.
- mochoson

This.


Home team players are always the best. Everyone elses; not so much.

Ryan Rishaug ‏@TSNRyanRishaug
Oilers intention is to have Taylor Hall part of Schultz pitch. May have them meet in the next few days.



Mark Spector Sports ‏@SportsnetSpec
Sarcasm, folks. Flames overpay, over-term for Wideman. CGY in province of Alberta, State of Denial. Moving Bouwmeester now mandatory.

Well then expect to pay him adequately for his performance.
- Leafs43

Oh I'm not denying that... I'm just saying Pavelec wasn't worth the contract he received... I think that contract would have been too much for Dubnyk as well... And I see Dubnyk as a superior goaltender.