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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
There is no way he is getting 6.5 mil. Don't believe the BS.
- CanUSA17


Oh I know, I've got info said it's minimum 4.5m. That's all. I could see it being closer to 5m.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
Blake Price said that Garrison will sign with Fla 5 year /6.5 mil per
Parise and Suter will get 7.5

- VANTEL


Blake Price doesn't know what he's talking about. The guy drives me nuts. He knows some stuff about the Canucks, a little about other teams and absolutely nothing about any other sport. He is incapable of having a conversation about any other sports. As soon as the discussion starts heading away from the Canucks or hockey he is clueless.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
Not interested. Might as well try your hand at Doan. Maybe Doan can help Kassian out. I also believe that Gillis is itching to get younger....
- chompsey


Difference is. Doan will get offered 5 mil per on a 2 or 3 year deal by some teams. Samuelsson will not be offered more than 2.5 or 3 mil per on a one year deal(maybe 2 years from a weak team that he's probably not interested in).
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:03 PM ET
If you were Samuellson would you want to go back to a team that traded you when you can choose any team?

I'm not saying there is no spot for him, I just don't think he would come here.

- immature_male



True, he seems to be a very emotional guy and takes that stuff personally(just ask Team Sweden).
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
Oh I know, I've got info said it's minimum 4.5m. That's all. I could see it being closer to 5m.
- Scooby_Doo



I think he'd be willing to take 500K less per year to sign here. But if a team offers 5.5, he's not signing here.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:05 PM ET
Blake Price doesn't know what he's talking about. The guy drives me nuts. He knows some stuff about the Canucks, a little about other teams and absolutely nothing about any other sport. He is incapable of having a conversation about any other sports. As soon as the discussion starts heading away from the Canucks or hockey he is clueless.
- hankthetank



This is the case for every host on the Team 1040. It's embarrassing sometimes.
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:06 PM ET
Oh I know, I've got info said it's minimum 4.5m. That's all. I could see it being closer to 5m.
- Scooby_Doo



That's the number I was thinking...4.5. And if he really wants to play in Vancouver then I could see Gillis giving it to him, especially if Schultz goes elsewhere. If it all plays out the way I hope the Canucks get both Garrison and Schultz. It would really help the D and the PP.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
That's the number I was thinking...4.5. And if he really wants to play in Vancouver then I could see Gillis giving it to him, especially if Schultz goes elsewhere. If it all plays out the way I hope the Canucks get both Garrison and Schultz. It would really help the D and the PP.
- CanUSA17


Agreed. And if Schultz isn't ready to play in a top 4 role then Garrison can move up to play the right side with Edler.

I would love to see something like this(assuming Ballard can be dealt for a pick):

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Schultz
Garrison-Tanev
Alberts

Hamhuis, Edler, Schultz, Garrison on the PP.

Hamhus, Bieksa, Edler and Garrison on the PK.


And knowing the Canucks, one of those top 5 d-men would always be injured anyways.


I still have a feeling that Schultz ends up elsewhere though.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
This is the case for every host on the Team 1040. It's embarrassing sometimes.
- Nucker101


I find Sekeres knows a lot more than the other about other sports. Barry Macdonald knows about baseball. Rintoul is probably the most knowledgeable about all sports. Taylor and Price don't know a thing. Taylor doesn't even know much about hockey other than the numbers players wore.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:20 PM ET
Apparently Matt Carkner has turned down a one year deal from the Sens and is going to hit the open market. He's looking for a multi-year deal.


Just thought I'd share that since a few of you here have him on your target/wish list. I wouldn't mind him as a 6/7 d-man, but I don't think he's a fit with Alberts and Tanev already in that role.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
Apparently Matt Carkner has turned down a one year deal from the Sens and is going to hit the open market. He's looking for a multi-year deal.


Just thought I'd share that since a few of you here have him on your target/wish list. I wouldn't mind him as a 6/7 d-man, but I don't think he's a fit with Alberts and Tanev already in that role.

- Nucker101

do you think AHLberts is going to be on the roster full time this year? I keep forgetting about him
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:27 PM ET
I find Sekeres knows a lot more than the other about other sports. Barry Macdonald knows about baseball. Rintoul is probably the most knowledgeable about all sports. Taylor and Price don't know a thing. Taylor doesn't even know much about hockey other than the numbers players wore.
- hankthetank


I agree. Sekeres has a terrible voice but is very knowledgable. Plus I agree with most of his POVs.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
do you think AHLberts is going to be on the roster full time this year? I keep forgetting about him
- numbear


that's completely understandable.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
Apparently Matt Carkner has turned down a one year deal from the Sens and is going to hit the open market. He's looking for a multi-year deal.


Just thought I'd share that since a few of you here have him on your target/wish list. I wouldn't mind him as a 6/7 d-man, but I don't think he's a fit with Alberts and Tanev already in that role.

- Nucker101

Would love to have him here as 6th/7th guy with Tanev sharing that spot as well. Keep Bieksa hamhuis, edler, hopefully have Shultz then I dunno Salo,Tanev Carkner rounding out the other 2 or 3 spots.... If we don't get Schultz peruse suter hard if he's available
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
do you think AHLberts is going to be on the roster full time this year? I keep forgetting about him
- numbear


I think he should have been re-signed to a one year deal last summer so MG would have the flexibility to look into other options. I could see him getting traded for a late pick though, but AV likes his size for bigger teams and the team seems to like him as a 6/7th d-man. He's not bad at all for his role and I think he's shed the AHLberts name.
NFLDcanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NF
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
IMO Jason garrison is going to be over payed by some team and it won't be us. We have Kevin connauton coming up in the ahl and he brings the exact same playing style that garrison plays and is alot cheaper then garrison is. If connauton takes another step foward this summer he could be ready for some NHL minutes this year. He already has a NHL ready offensive game and a booming shot from the point ( maybe just as good as garrisons shot ). All connauton needs to do is improve his defensive game and he will be with the canucks.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:37 PM ET
IMO Jason garrison is going to be over payed by some team and it won't be us. We have Kevin connauton coming up in the ahl and he brings the exact same playing style that garrison plays and is alot cheaper then garrison is. If connauton takes another step foward this summer he could be ready for some NHL minutes this year. He already has a NHL ready offensive game and a booming shot from the point ( maybe just as good as garrisons shot ). All connauton needs to do is improve his defensive game and he will be with the canucks.
- NFLDcanuck



Garrison is actually known for being a very solid defensive d-man with a big shot that is big and physical and can play in all situations. Connauton is a smooth skater, also with a big shot but known for his skill ad offensive abilities and as you said he needs to work on his defensive game. I like him a lot, but Garrison is the much more complete defenseman and they aren't really similar outside of the big shots they both have.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:43 PM ET
Garrison is actually known for being a very solid defensive d-man with a big shot that is big and physical and can play in all situations. Connauton is a smooth skater, also with a big shot but known for his skill ad offensive abilities and as you said he needs to work on his defensive game. I like him a lot, but Garrison is the much more complete defenseman and they aren't really similar outside of the big shots they both have.
- Nucker101

to make the best use of their cup contending window, garrison is a better option then connauton right now.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:45 PM ET
to make the best use of their cup contending window, garrison is a better option then connauton right now.
- numbear


I can't see Gillis giving him "Wideman money" .
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 27 @ 5:49 PM ET
Difference is. Doan will get offered 5 mil per on a 2 or 3 year deal by some teams. Samuelsson will not be offered more than 2.5 or 3 mil per on a one year deal(maybe 2 years from a weak team that he's probably not interested in).
- Nucker101

This is what I think. You can't keep handing out 5 yr deals on the Ufa market. It will destroy you in a few yrs. If you can't find any acceptable guys willing to do this then go with youth. Unless Garrison signs under 3 mil(which I doubt will happen) I don't want him. If Gill is can improve us through trades then fine but Ufa is going to be a huge mistake this summer unless u get a reclamation project or 1 yr deal
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:49 PM ET
I can't see Gillis giving him "Wideman money" .
- fiveandagame

you're right.

But I think thats the problem, too make the most use of the now they need to take a bite into something. I would just hate to see a canadian team taking a chance to go for it when at its peak because of a GMs pride.

They're just a couple pieces away again this year.
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:53 PM ET
So someone posted earlier that Suter had some interest in playing for Vancouver but I find that hard to believe. Even if it were true I don't think Gillis would have the funds to bring him to the Canucks.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:55 PM ET
you're right.

But I think thats the problem, too make the most use of the now they need to take a bite into something. I would just hate to see a canadian team taking a chance to go for it when at its peak because of a GMs pride.

They're just a couple pieces away again this year.

- numbear


The core of the Canucks is still signed for the next couple of years and most of those players are still in their prime. Giving a guy like Garrsion, who has had one good year at the age of 27, a 5+ million, multiyear contract would cripple the team going forward. Burrows will most definitly get a raise from his 2 mil. ect.

How much more flexabilty would the Flames have if they didn't have guys like Stajan, Bouwmeester and now Wideman making a million or 2 more then they are worth. It is so easy to cripple a team in a salary cap world with a bad contract or 2.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
So someone posted earlier that Suter had some interest in playing for Vancouver but I find that hard to believe. Even if it were true I don't think Gillis would have the funds to bring him to the Canucks.
- CanUSA17


There is so much fake twitter BS right now that I don't beleive anything until TSN has confirmed it.
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:57 PM ET
This is the case for every host on the Team 1040. It's embarrassing sometimes.
- Nucker101



Price is a fool, wayyyy to cynical and he has the worst character trait of all...he thinks hes way smarter than he is

Sekeres seems to know his stuff, but he comes off as a guy that just sits and studies everything, not someone who actually ever played a sport

Jeff Patterson is just annoying

Moj is unintentianally hilarious

BMac and taylor....meh, previous show was better IMO

Chapman is OK, but Botchford seriously needs someone to punch him in the face repeatedly. Calling him arrogant would be to understate the word

The guy who legit knows his stuff, IS very intelligent and WAS and STILL IS a legit athlete is Rintoul. Shermanator stuff aside, he's probably the best of the bunch at 1040
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