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phantasm
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
Everyone wants to pay Ryan almost three million more than Voracek when Voracek, who is 2 years younger, could develop into a strong offense player in his own right. 50 points last year wasn't bad an I think he got better as the year wore on. We can have him cheaper and not have to lose any assets or him.

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- funmaster18


Voracek averaged a pt per game for the last 15 gms of the season and into the playoffs (Ryan, not quite at that pace)...
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
you know what he was not that good in his zone lets be honest!
- Philly1980


Parise will help that.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
One interesting question that I thought of, say by some miracle, Lindros makes it into the HHOF in the next year or two. Does Schnider allow his number to be retired? With Mark Howe, he said if he's good enough for the HOF, he's good enough to have his number retired by the Flyers..
- Hextall271


I think absolutely the Flyers retire his number if he goes in the HHOF.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
Parise will help that.
- flyersfan51


Chances they land him?
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Chances they land him?
- stveshdy




Great Avatar!! Id go 3 years on him even though I only want 2 and he wants 4. I hope no one gives him 4.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
One interesting question that I thought of, say by some miracle, Lindros makes it into the HHOF in the next year or two. Does Schnider allow his number to be retired? With Mark Howe, he said if he's good enough for the HOF, he's good enough to have his number retired by the Flyers..
- Hextall271


Why not. It's not like anybody is going to be requesting #88 any time soon anyway.

And if Bure got in, then Lindros definitely should.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Chances they land him?
- stveshdy


The thing with Parise is that I seriously doubt he goes to any team in the Atlantic division. I have nothing to base that on. It is just an opinion.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
Great Avatar!! Id go 3 years on him even though I only want 2 and he wants 4. I hope no one gives him 4.
- aosplayo


I had Ryan but changed to Doan b/c he should be the target on July 1st. I agree I wouldnt go 4 yrs on him.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
The thing with Parise is that I seriously doubt he goes to any team in the Atlantic division. I have nothing to base that on. It is just an opinion.
- MBFlyerfan


Back to the Debs.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
The thing with Parise is that I seriously doubt he goes to any team in the Atlantic division. I have nothing to base that on. It is just an opinion.
- MBFlyerfan


I heard that rumor on Comcast Sportsnet that Parise is a class guy and well respected and if he leave NJ he wont go in the Atlantic Division. However, money talks.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
I think absolutely the Flyers retire his number if he goes in the HHOF.
- MBFlyerfan


I hope so.. what a moment that would be. I can't see anyone ever wearing that # in orange and black ever again. I wonder if Kane would have been allowed to don it had he been selected #1 in the 07 draft?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Parise will help that.
- flyersfan51



i do think this way

Parise > Ryan > voracek and mez

flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
Chances they land him?
- stveshdy


30?
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
I heard that rumor on Comcast Sportsnet that Parise is a class guy and well respected and if he leave NJ he wont go in the Atlantic Division. However, money talks.
- stveshdy



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“I've said all along how much I like playing in New Jersey. [We] want to try to get things worked out with New Jersey." – Captain #Parise
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
i do think this way

Parise > Ryan > voracek and mez


- Philly1980


agreed.

Plan A: Parise
Plan B: Ryan
Plan C: Mesz and Voracek
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
One interesting question that I thought of, say by some miracle, Lindros makes it into the HHOF in the next year or two. Does Schnider allow his number to be retired? With Mark Howe, he said if he's good enough for the HOF, he's good enough to have his number retired by the Flyers..
- Hextall271


I would hope. By the way, it's time to raise Adam Oates' number 77 in to the rafters of the Farg!
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:53 PM ET
I heard that rumor on Comcast Sportsnet that Parise is a class guy and well respected and if he leave NJ he wont go in the Atlantic Division. However, money talks.
- stveshdy


I don't understand that.

If he respects NJ so much, why not take a serious home town discount and just stay?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:54 PM ET
agreed.

Plan A: Parise
Plan B: Ryan
Plan C: Mesz and Voracek

- flyersfan51


I would rather keep Voracek and Mez and pick up Doan. That would give them a well balanced set of forwards both offensively and defensively plus a great group of defensemen. Better team D will help Bryz too.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
I would rather keep Voracek and Mez and pick up Doan. That would give them a well balanced set of forwards both offensively and defensively plus a great group of defensemen. Better team D will help Bryz too.
- NickTheKid87


how much you think Doan would take to sign here? 2/3.5 per?
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
I don't understand that.

If he respects NJ so much, why not take a serious home town discount and just stay?

- 77rams


agreed.....respect only goes so far....plus, I'm sure he wants to win as well and with Marty aging....I don't think its going to happen for jersey.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
how much you think Doan would take to sign here? 2/3.5 per?
- flyersfan51


I think that is low. I would rather pay him 4 then Carle.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
I don't understand that.

If he respects NJ so much, why not take a serious home town discount and just stay?

- 77rams


I think he still would like to be paid out of respect but NJ having financial issues. So if he leaves he would consider leaving the Atlantic Division bc he respects Big Lou. Just what I heard on Comcast.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:03 PM ET
I didn't realize Gostisbehre was that tall. 5'11 isn't terrible, but he obviously needs gain some serious weight. He's likely at least two years away from the Phantoms, but who knows. If he packs on some serious weight over the course of the next year, he could leave if he's ready.

I saw some Union games this year. He kind of reminds me of Toby Enstrom. He's not terrible defensively either. I think we got a steal here at #3 personally. Im very intrigued to track his development and see how he does this year.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
how much you think Doan would take to sign here? 2/3.5 per?
- flyersfan51


I think he'll want somewhere in the $4m range. It's the years that worry me. 1 or 2 is optimal. 3 is stretching it. 4 is too long.
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