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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
I like it acutally. But why would Anaheim deal Ryan for Brzy when they have Hiller?
- stveshdy


People were asking what they'd pay for Ryan. That's about it for me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Wideman was an all-star last season. Not sure I agree.

The point, regardless, was that we could sign a solid, 2nd pair d-man via FA after said trade to replace Meszaros. I didn't mean to imply that he was merely a solid player.

- LordStanley88



Wideman is a stiff in his own end. I think Meszaros has the ability and talent to be a better overall player. I think Meszaros has the potential to be the best defenseman out of the current group.

Sure we could sign a solid defensman in Free Agency. We could also sign a goal scoring Winger in Free Agency, rather then trade for one. We could also trade for one later in the Season.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
People were asking what they'd pay for Ryan. That's about it for me.
- bradleyc4




Dont think the trade works. You cant wait to dump Bryz.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
They wouldn't. It was a stupid and boneheaded proposal.
- LordStanley88

LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:37 PM ET
Wideman is a stiff in his own end. I think Meszaros has the ability and talent to be a better overall player. I think Meszaros has the potential to be the best defenseman out of the current group.

Sure we could sign a solid defensman in Free Agency. We could also sign a goal scoring Winger in Free Agency, rather then trade for one. We could also trade for one later in the Season.

- MJL


What goal scoring winger other than Parise is of the same calibre as Ryan?

Maybe Semin, but I wouldn't want him at the rumored price.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
He said Garrison or Wideman. Not sure we can get either.
- stveshdy


If the flyers target someone theres more than likely a chance to get him....i think ryan will be a flyer come july 1st. Homers just waiting to make sure hes got his bases covered before he pulls the trigger.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
I don't see why Parise is a pipe dream. It's unlikely sure, but the financial flexibility is there to make it happen.
- LordStanley88


It would only be feasible if the Flyers let both Carle and Jagr walk. I spelled out why in yesterday's blog.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
If the flyers target someone theres more than likely a chance to get him....i think ryan will be a flyer come july 1st. Homers just waiting to make sure hes got his bases covered before he pulls the trigger.
- Philly1980


Very possible or the demands for Ryan are too high for him to pull the trigger.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
It would only be feasible if the Flyers let both Carle and Jagr walk. I spelled out why in yesterday's blog.
- bmeltzer



Stay on target
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
It would only be feasible if the Flyers let both Carle and Jagr walk. I spelled out why in yesterday's blog.
- bmeltzer


So its Ryan/Carle or Parise/Mez.

Unless the Flyers can trade Bourdon and Voracek for Ryan.

Either way they would need to replace a defenseman (most likely).

If they went those two routes of course.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
Very possible or the demands for Ryan are too high for him to pull the trigger.
- stveshdy


At the draft the rumored tag was Schenn, so I'd say the latter is the better guess.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:42 PM ET
So its Ryan/Carle or Parise/Mez.

Unless the Flyers can trade Bourdon and Voracek for Ryan.

Either way they would need to replace a defenseman (most likely).

- stveshdy


But they probably couldn't do that if they used all of their cap space to sign Parise, which is why I prefer scenario 1.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:42 PM ET
At the draft the rumored tag was Schenn, so I'd say the latter is the better guess.
- LordStanley88


Schenn i agree would be way to much...I was relieved when homer traded JVR for luke.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:43 PM ET
What goal scoring winger other than Parise is of the same calibre as Ryan?

Maybe Semin, but I wouldn't want him at the rumored price.

- LordStanley88


Do they need a goal scorer of that caliber?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:43 PM ET
But they probably couldn't do that if they used all of their cap space to sign Parise, which is why I prefer scenario 1.
- LordStanley88


Agreed scenario one is best.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:43 PM ET
At the draft the rumored tag was Schenn, so I'd say the latter is the better guess.
- LordStanley88


Flyers dont have to trade for Ryan if the price is too high. After July 1st we could see more forwards become available in a trade.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
Do they need a goal scorer of that caliber?
- funmaster18


cant put voracek next to him with a 9.8 Shooting%.

Also what happens if jagr doesnt sign who do you put up there?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
Do they need a goal scorer of that caliber?
- funmaster18


Who knows. Each year is different. They could struggle to score more this year and I would be fine with that as long as they arent in the bottom 10 in GAA.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
Do they need a goal scorer of that caliber?
- funmaster18


I've stated multiple times that I would like to add a front-line winger to pair with Giroux.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
What goal scoring winger other than Parise is of the same calibre as Ryan?

Maybe Semin, but I wouldn't want him at the rumored price.

- LordStanley88



So that's 2 players equal to Ryan that can be gotten in Free Agency. So there are options. But none of them I would term easily gotten.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
So that's 2 players equal to Ryan that can be gotten in Free Agency. So there are options. But none of them I would term easily gotten.
- MJL


There are options, sure. But I'd prefer to deal for Ryan unless Parise becomes a legitimate possiblity.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
I've stated multiple times that I would like to add a front-line winger to pair with Giroux.
- LordStanley88



So would I. But I wouldn't trade Voracek and Meszaros to do it.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
cant put voracek next to him with a 9.8 Shooting%.

Also what happens if jagr doesnt sign who do you put up there?

- Philly1980


All of a sudden we are using shooting %s as a reason to put someone on a line with Giroux? You're reaching there, IMO.

And I haven't heard of many other choices other than Ryan, as if he's the only goal scorer available in the NHL.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
There are options, sure. But I'd prefer to deal for Ryan unless Parise becomes a legitimate possiblity.
- LordStanley88


Nothing surprises me anymore with the Flyers so I won't rule anything out.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
There are options, sure. But I'd prefer to deal for Ryan unless Parise becomes a legitimate possiblity.
- LordStanley88


I'd love to deal for Ryan. But at the right price. It's hot out and I would sure like a bottle of water. But I'm not paying $5 for it.
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