- Atomic Wedgie

Ulfrid Stormcloak?

But at least Bure was one of the most dynamic players in the game for a while.

Do you really think that Mike Gartner is more worthy than Lindros?
- Atomic Wedgie

How about Mark Howe...Dino Ciccarelli.... Belfour and Nieuwendyk even.

For you, Weirdo:
https://twitter.com/Brown...17719177438437377/photo/1

How about Mark Howe...Dino Ciccarelli.... Belfour and Nieuwendyk even.
- robin_steele264

I just read this and it came out like Snagglepuss.

odd shanny wasnt put in, but i guess thats life.

next year..
- big_dion

I heard he's suspending the HOF ceremony this year....

How about Mark Howe...Dino Ciccarelli.... Belfour and Nieuwendyk even.
- robin_steele264

Mark Howe - yes. You need to look at his WHA resume.

Dino - no

Belfour - could have gone either way. But I don't lose any sleep over it.

Niewendyk - wouldn't have received my vote. Sorry.

I just read this and it came out like Snagglepuss.
- LeafMan

If the #6 all time goal scorer isnt there, none of these hacks should be there.

How about Mark Howe...Dino Ciccarelli.... Belfour and Nieuwendyk even.
- robin_steele264

and that's where all of this falls apart.

basically, the HHOF has let in a lot of good to slightly better than good players.

now the question always becomes: well if he's in, why isn't player X?

basically, this argument boils down to that the standards have never been very high so why start now?

For you, Weirdo:
https://twitter.com/Brown...17719177438437377/photo/1
- gravyface

WOW

If the #6 all time goal scorer isnt there, none of these hacks should be there.



- robin_steele264

I don't need a hall of fame to tell me who they think is great, I rather judge on who (the ones I have seen) catches my eyes as they play the game.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

#Canucks Gillis is asking an EXTRAORDINARILY large amount from the #Leafs and #Panthers for Luongo.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From #Leafs he is asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and one other piece.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From the #Panthers he is asking for Bjugstad, a 1st round pick, and another piece. Gillis will not receive close to this

Gillis is (frank)ing braindead if he thinks he'll get this for Lu

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

#Canucks Gillis is asking an EXTRAORDINARILY large amount from the #Leafs and #Panthers for Luongo.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From #Leafs he is asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and one other piece.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From the #Panthers he is asking for Bjugstad, a 1st round pick, and another piece. Gillis will not receive close to this

Gillis is (frank)ing braindead if he thinks he'll get this for Lu
- peddy-93

How about a piece of the Gardiner?

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

#Canucks Gillis is asking an EXTRAORDINARILY large amount from the #Leafs and #Panthers for Luongo.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From #Leafs he is asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and one other piece.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From the #Panthers he is asking for Bjugstad, a 1st round pick, and another piece. Gillis will not receive close to this

Gillis is (frank)ing braindead if he thinks he'll get this for Lu
- peddy-93

Sounds like Burke has met his match at the negotiating table.

Like trying to deal with himself almost....

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

#Canucks Gillis is asking an EXTRAORDINARILY large amount from the #Leafs and #Panthers for Luongo.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From #Leafs he is asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and one other piece.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From the #Panthers he is asking for Bjugstad, a 1st round pick, and another piece. Gillis will not receive close to this

Gillis is (frank)ing braindead if he thinks he'll get this for Lu
- peddy-93

He's gotta come in high (or maybe he's just high) and bargain down from there.

Luongo's going to get a decent roster player/middling prospect, a salary dump, and a mid-round pick like D'Amigo, Komisarek, and a 2nd, or Mac, Komisarek, and a 3rd.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

#Canucks Gillis is asking an EXTRAORDINARILY large amount from the #Leafs and #Panthers for Luongo.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From #Leafs he is asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and one other piece.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From the #Panthers he is asking for Bjugstad, a 1st round pick, and another piece. Gillis will not receive close to this

Gillis is (frank)ing braindead if he thinks he'll get this for Lu
- peddy-93

Holy jumpin!

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

#Canucks Gillis is asking an EXTRAORDINARILY large amount from the #Leafs and #Panthers for Luongo.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From #Leafs he is asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and one other piece.

THNHockeyInsider‏@THNInsider

From the #Panthers he is asking for Bjugstad, a 1st round pick, and another piece. Gillis will not receive close to this

Gillis is (frank)ing braindead if he thinks he'll get this for Lu
- peddy-93

I wouldn't even give that for Schneider.....

But at least Bure was one of the most dynamic players in the game for a while.

Do you really think that Mike Gartner is more worthy than Lindros?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes. I do place a value on longevity if high-level performance can be sustained consistently.

The guy scored 79 goals in the last 3 years of his career as he approached 40. That's pretty rare. So is 700+ goals.

Lindros had about three to four year span where he was among the best players in the game (not the clear-cut best all the time). He was very good for most of the rest and broke down quickly.

For what it's worth, I think Lindros ought to be in before Bure, anyway. He had more points, roughly equal PPG, and was a more complete hockey player.

For a forward, 500 goals or 1000 points ought to be the bare minimum threshold. And even that seems too low at times. To make an exception, you'd better have a hell of a good reason. Lindros comes closer to making the exception than Bure.

700-something career points? Really?

I dont think it hurts his case as he was inducted to the Hall long ago.
- robin_steele264

So, an E3?

How about a piece of the Gardiner?
- Atomic Wedgie

...Expressway?

Mark Howe - yes. You need to look at his WHA resume.

Dino - no

Belfour - could have gone either way. But I don't lose any sleep over it.

Niewendyk - wouldn't have received my vote. Sorry.
- Atomic Wedgie

Agreed. Belfour would have received a bit stronger endorsement for me, though. I could give him a confident yes.

Sounds like Burke has met his match at the negotiating table.

Like trying to deal with himself almost....


- robin_steele264

He looked himself in the mirror

Yes. I do place a value on longevity if high-level performance can be sustained consistently.

Thye guy scored 79 goals in the last 3 years of his career as he approached 40. That's pretty rare. So is 700+ goals.

Lindros had about three to four year span where he was among the best players in the game (not the clear-cut best all the time). He was very good for most of the rest and broke down quickly.

For what it's worth, I think Lindros ought to be in before Bure, anyway. He had more points, roughly equal PPG, and was a more complete hockey player.

For a forward, 500 goals or 1000 points ought to be the bare minimum threshold. And even that seems too low at times. To make an exception, you'd better have a hell of a good reason. Lindros comes closer to making the exception than Bure.

700-something career points? Really?
- Leeman4Gilmour

Heck yes.

Bure skated really fast down the wing.

Lindros hit, punched, intimidated and scored.

Awesome news to come home from work to.

He's gotta come in high (or maybe he's just high) and bargain down from there.

Luongo's going to get a decent roster player/middling prospect, a salary dump, and a mid-round pick like D'Amigo, Komisarek, and a 2nd, or Mac, Komisarek, and a 3rd.
- gravyface

there's only so high you can go before you get slapped in the face by the other GM

Sounds like Burke has met his match at the negotiating table.

Like trying to deal with himself almost....


- robin_steele264

Just walk away Burke. Please for the love of God, walk away.

Obviously Gillis isnt expecting a return like that. But maybe if you ask for 3 good assets you can get one.