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BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
I am SHOCKED at how much I hear Lucic's name involved with a trade......REALLY I know he's had 2 so so playoffs but WTF This Guy is BRUIN if there ever was one. Your out of your Minds people. If he was traded and the B's were getting run at all over the Ice you would be the first people crying about Why did they trade Lucic. Krejci and Luc for Bobby Ryan No FING way At this time Krejci's value is at an All Time Low so he's not going anywhere, thats pretty much gutting the top end of this team for a Kid that has played with lots of Talent his whole career. no deal
Who freaking cares about Rick Nash, let him go to the Rangers, see how much he likes playing defense and blocking shots.

The Whole Year depends on staying Healthy mostly Horty and Rask.
with Horton playing healthy it makes Krecji and Lucic's line roll. they will add some crap guy similar to Poulliot and hope Caron or Knight/Spooner makes the Team.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:31 AM ET
I am SHOCKED at how much I hear Lucic's name involved with a trade......REALLY I know he's had 2 so so playoffs but WTF This Guy is BRUIN if there ever was one. Your out of your Minds people. If he was traded and the B's were getting run at all over the Ice you would be the first people crying about Why did they trade Lucic. Krejci and Luc for Bobby Ryan No FING way At this time Krejci's value is at an All Time Low so he's not going anywhere, thats pretty much gutting the top end of this team for a Kid that has played with lots of Talent his whole career. no deal
Who freaking cares about Rick Nash, let him go to the Rangers, see how much he likes playing defense and blocking shots.

The Whole Year depends on staying Healthy mostly Horty and Rask.
with Horton playing healthy it makes Krecji and Lucic's line roll. they will add some crap guy similar to Poulliot and hope Caron or Knight/Spooner makes the Team.

- BruinBlood


Ladies and Gentlemen ... please welcome your newest Boston Bruin .. Ggggggguillaummmmmeee Llllllllatendressssssse
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
This is very interesting
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:34 AM ET
Ladies and Gentlemen ... please welcome your newest Boston Bruin .. Ggggggguillaummmmmeee Llllllllatendressssssse
- Double_A




BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 12:33 PM ET
Ladies and Gentlemen ... please welcome your newest Boston Bruin .. Ggggggguillaummmmmeee Llllllllatendressssssse
- Double_A


He Does seem to Fit the Mode
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
I am SHOCKED at how much I hear Lucic's name involved with a trade......REALLY I know he's had 2 so so playoffs but WTF This Guy is BRUIN if there ever was one. Your out of your Minds people. If he was traded and the B's were getting run at all over the Ice you would be the first people crying about Why did they trade Lucic. Krejci and Luc for Bobby Ryan No FING way At this time Krejci's value is at an All Time Low so he's not going anywhere, thats pretty much gutting the top end of this team for a Kid that has played with lots of Talent his whole career. no deal
Who freaking cares about Rick Nash, let him go to the Rangers, see how much he likes playing defense and blocking shots.

The Whole Year depends on staying Healthy mostly Horty and Rask.
with Horton playing healthy it makes Krecji and Lucic's line roll. they will add some crap guy similar to Poulliot and hope Caron or Knight/Spooner makes the Team.

- BruinBlood


I'm in very small minority but...

A. IMO Lucic is too inconsistent to play on top line and is not a true 30 goal guy, 5 of those were empty net goals.
B. He completely vanishes and is almost totally useless in the playoffs.

I understand Krejci and Lucic may look like an over payment for Ryan but Krejci doesn't exactly tear it up in the regular season either. Which again IMO makes his contract hot garbage. So I think Krejci + is tough sell to any team for anything worth getting. The whole toughness thing is ridiculous. Bruins have toughness on tap in Chara, McQuaid, Boychuck, Thorton, Campbell.



glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
Ladies and Gentlemen ... please welcome your newest Boston Bruin .. Ggggggguillaummmmmeee Llllllllatendressssssse
- Double_A


Oh god no more of Montreal's trash
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
He Does seem to Fit the Mode
- BruinBlood


He certainly is "thick" which seems to be PC's primary criteria
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
I'm in very small minority but...

A. IMO Lucic is too inconsistent to play on top line and is not a true 30 goal guy, 5 of those were empty net goals.
B. He completely vanishes and is almost totally useless in the playoffs.

I understand Krejci and Lucic may look like an over payment for Ryan but Krejci doesn't exactly tear it up in the regular season either. Which again IMO makes his contract hot garbage. So I think Krejci + is tough sell to any team for anything worth getting. The whole toughness thing is ridiculous. Bruins have toughness on tap in Chara, McQuaid, Boychuck, Thorton, Campbell.

- glove_was_stuck


Meh ... a lot of "goal scorers" have empty netters padding their stats ... just like a lot of guys rack up secondary assists. The point is he produces and he brings an element that very few if any other players in the league can. If Lucic went on the block 29 teams would be lined up to get him because that package of attributes just isn't available elsewhere.

Krejci I'm a little luke warm on. I don't think he's an elite guy but he's certainly a serviceable 1st line center in a system where 3 lines get almost equal ice. People are also pretty quick to forget that he's 1 year removed from leading a cup winning team in play off scoring. I don't think he'd be all that tough a sell to anyone. I think he's an expendable asset in the right deal but it's not like he's an anchor. The other thing to consider is that the organization hasn't shown any indication that they have an intention of playing Seguin at C which makes it pretty tough to move DK unless you want Peverly centering your top line.
BruinBlood
Boston Bruins
Location: South Shore, MA
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'm in very small minority but...

A. IMO Lucic is too inconsistent to play on top line and is not a true 30 goal guy, 5 of those were empty net goals.
B. He completely vanishes and is almost totally useless in the playoffs.



i have to diasgree, everyone minus say Seguin & Seidenberg looked bad this year in the playoffs but in 2011 Luc sucked verse Mtl looked ok verse Philly, was at least hitting Tampa and I thought he played well in the Finals verse Vancouver.
meanhile your Hot garbage contract led the NHL in playoff scoring.

Krejci will have a bounce back season as long as he has a Healthy Horton playing by his side. I think Luc hit his ceiling with goal scoring. 30 is best he's going to get and I think he is a guy who can Change a game just by being Physical.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
Nah, that's two thirds of your top-line. They don't need to re-tool their squad that badly. There's this weird sort of demand for major change when this team was an overtime goal away from facing Philly, and then (potentially) facing Jersey, two teams they dominated throughout the season. I'm OK with them trying to add one top-six forward this offseason. Doan, Whitney, etc etc.
- tyanderson


The demand coms from the perception by fans that other teams are going to be making some big moves in the future.

IMO this team comes down to health, and many people here have said that before. The Bruins were steamrolling teams before Horton got injured and Marchand got suspended. The Bruins need to sign a guy along the lines of a Whitney; short deal, be prepared to deal with some injury time off, end of the career, character guy. As Chiarelli himself said, a Mark Recchi type of player.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:37 PM ET
i have to diasgree, everyone minus say Seguin & Seidenberg looked bad this year in the playoffs but in 2011 Luc sucked verse Mtl looked ok verse Philly, was at least hitting Tampa and I thought he played well in the Finals verse Vancouver.
meanhile your Hot garbage contract led the NHL in playoff scoring.

Krejci will have a bounce back season as long as he has a Healthy Horton playing by his side. I think Luc hit his ceiling with goal scoring. 30 is best he's going to get and I think he is a guy who can Change a game just by being Physical.

- BruinBlood


Funny thing is if 3 years ago someone said Lucic would someday score 30 we all would have leapt for joy, nevermind averaging 28 over the last 2 years.
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:50 PM ET



- Rayven

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:26 AM ET
Meh ... a lot of "goal scorers" have empty netters padding their stats ... just like a lot of guys rack up secondary assists. The point is he produces and he brings an element that very few if any other players in the league can. If Lucic went on the block 29 teams would be lined up to get him because that package of attributes just isn't available elsewhere.

Krejci I'm a little luke warm on. I don't think he's an elite guy but he's certainly a serviceable 1st line center in a system where 3 lines get almost equal ice. People are also pretty quick to forget that he's 1 year removed from leading a cup winning team in play off scoring. I don't think he'd be all that tough a sell to anyone. I think he's an expendable asset in the right deal but it's not like he's an anchor. The other thing to consider is that the organization hasn't shown any indication that they have an intention of playing Seguin at C which makes it pretty tough to move DK unless you want Peverly centering your top line.

- Double_A


Nightmare Scenario right there as it mean Bergeron is probably hurt then. I like Pevs but I would like to see the B's add real scoring. Yes they won a cup and I will be forever overjoyed but I think trying to win again with a team comprised of mostly muckers and grinders is very very difficult to pull off. If PC is serious about his veteren presence then hopefully July 1 he is talking to Shane Doan and/or Ray Whitney.

As for Krejci is good but a number 2 center at best extremely overpaid with a terrible contract.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:52 AM ET
Nightmare Scenario right there as it mean Bergeron is probably hurt then. I like Pevs but I would like to see the B's add real scoring. Yes they won a cup and I will be forever overjoyed but I think trying to win again with a team comprised of mostly muckers and grinders is very very difficult to pull off. If PC is serious about his veteren presence then hopefully July 1 he is talking to Shane Doan and/or Ray Whitney.

As for Krejci is good but a number 2 center at best extremely overpaid with a terrible contract.

- glove_was_stuck


Definitely think those would be 2 great adds ... I'd add Smyth in there too if he'd ever leave Edmonton again (which seems unlikely).

As for Krejci's contract ... I really don't think its that out of line with others around the league when you look at the likes of: Sharp ($5.9), Marelau ($6.9), Grabovski ($5.5), Umberger ($4.6), Plekanev ($5), Horcoff ($5.5), McDonald ($4.7), Statsny ($6.6). Certainly not a steal, but some of these other guys set the market for quasi #1 centers. I think he's at market, maybe slightly overpaid, but certainly not terrible.
Bruins93089
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston
Joined: 02.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 12:27 PM ET
NHL officially announces summer cap of $70.2 million with a $54.2 million floor. In effect until new CBA is signed.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Jun 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
Meh ... a lot of "goal scorers" have empty netters padding their stats ... just like a lot of guys rack up secondary assists. The point is he produces and he brings an element that very few if any other players in the league can. If Lucic went on the block 29 teams would be lined up to get him because that package of attributes just isn't available elsewhere.

Krejci I'm a little luke warm on. I don't think he's an elite guy but he's certainly a serviceable 1st line center in a system where 3 lines get almost equal ice. People are also pretty quick to forget that he's 1 year removed from leading a cup winning team in play off scoring. I don't think he'd be all that tough a sell to anyone. I think he's an expendable asset in the right deal but it's not like he's an anchor. The other thing to consider is that the organization hasn't shown any indication that they have an intention of playing Seguin at C which makes it pretty tough to move DK unless you want Peverly centering your top line.

- Double_A



Gretzky had a lot of empty netters, I think a few of his milestone goals were empty net, we probably shouldnt count those, huh?
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 4:03 PM ET
Gretzky had a lot of empty netters, I think a few of his milestone goals were empty net, we probably shouldnt count those, huh?
- 77emac77



So were so deluded to point of saying Lucic in same breath as Wayne F'n Gretzky?!! C'mon... He is far from terrible but somewhere between a 2nd/3rd line wing and scored a lot those magical 30 goals against poop teams. But no I really enjoy how this organization continues to lack the balls to sign/make a deal for a real scoring wing. I'm sure the PP will muck and grind out another cup any year now.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
So were so deluded to point of saying Lucic in same breath as Wayne F'n Gretzky?!! C'mon... He is far from terrible but somewhere between a 2nd/3rd line wing and scored a lot those magical 30 goals against poop teams. But no I really enjoy how this organization continues to lack the balls to sign/make a deal for a real scoring wing. I'm sure the PP will muck and grind out another cup any year now.
- glove_was_stuck

they don't have the balls? you just described the horton trade and to a lesser extent the recchi trade.

this muck and grind it out team was 2nd in the league in scoring.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 4:44 PM ET
they don't have the balls? you just described the horton trade and to a lesser extent the recchi trade.

this muck and grind it out team was 2nd in the league in scoring.

- Fountain-San


So no room for improvement then? 2nd in scoring and a return to annual 1st round bounce. The team is good to go? Recchi was awesome no doubt, but I don't remember GM's tripping over themselves to get him in the twilight of his career. Horton? Another great add but while he was in FLA he was labeled as inconsistent and a bit of a head case. IN addition is even 100% he is ready to go? My point is that it didn't take a whole a lot to get them in Black and Gold. PC is very shrewd and saw the value in both of them but at some point they will have to make a major move and so far trading Kessel has been their biggest gamble. But I guess a kid like Ryan wouldn't be much help here especially in the playoffs when things tighten up.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 4:56 PM ET
So no room for improvement then? 2nd in scoring and a return to annual 1st round bounce. The team is good to go? Recchi was awesome no doubt, but I don't remember GM's tripping over themselves to get him in the twilight of his career. Horton? Another great add but while he was in FLA he was labeled as inconsistent and a bit of a head case. IN addition is even 100% he is ready to go? My point is that it didn't take a whole a lot to get them in Black and Gold. PC is very shrewd and saw the value in both of them but at some point they will have to make a major move and so far trading Kessel has been their biggest gamble. But I guess a kid like Ryan wouldn't be much help here especially in the playoffs when things tighten up.
- glove_was_stuck


of course we can improve. but to say they don't have the balls to make moves is just wrong.

so you can look back on moves they have made and say "well i didn't mean those moves". ok fine.

how do we get a nash or ryan or any other really elite fancy name player in here?

ready to give up any of the likes of hamilton, rask, seguin, krejci, lucic, spooner or knight.

it will take a lot. these moves aren't as easy as a phone call.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 4:56 PM ET
So no room for improvement then? 2nd in scoring and a return to annual 1st round bounce. The team is good to go? Recchi was awesome no doubt, but I don't remember GM's tripping over themselves to get him in the twilight of his career. Horton? Another great add but while he was in FLA he was labeled as inconsistent and a bit of a head case. IN addition is even 100% he is ready to go? My point is that it didn't take a whole a lot to get them in Black and Gold. PC is very shrewd and saw the value in both of them but at some point they will have to make a major move and so far trading Kessel has been their biggest gamble. But I guess a kid like Ryan wouldn't be much help here especially in the playoffs when things tighten up.
- glove_was_stuck

and annual first round bounce? come on.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
So no room for improvement then? 2nd in scoring and a return to annual 1st round bounce. The team is good to go? Recchi was awesome no doubt, but I don't remember GM's tripping over themselves to get him in the twilight of his career. Horton? Another great add but while he was in FLA he was labeled as inconsistent and a bit of a head case. IN addition is even 100% he is ready to go? My point is that it didn't take a whole a lot to get them in Black and Gold. PC is very shrewd and saw the value in both of them but at some point they will have to make a major move and so far trading Kessel has been their biggest gamble. But I guess a kid like Ryan wouldn't be much help here especially in the playoffs when things tighten up.
- glove_was_stuck

we have no idea who was after him or not.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:11 PM ET
of course we can improve. but to say they don't have the balls to make moves is just wrong.

so you can look back on moves they have made and say "well i didn't mean those moves". ok fine.

how do we get a nash or ryan or any other really elite fancy name player in here?

ready to give up any of the likes of hamilton, rask, seguin, krejci, lucic, spooner or knight.

it will take a lot. these moves aren't as easy as a phone call.

- Fountain-San


Hell no on Nash. The guys is trending the wrong way and is close to the wrong side of 30 with too many years and too much money hanging on him.Yes to get something you have to give something. I would love to see them jettison Krejci and that contract. They aggressively addressed their goalie depth and are deep at center. So where is the attention to the abysmal power play and lack of depth at the wings? This is not a new problem.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:13 PM ET
we have no idea who was after him or not.
- Fountain-San


Just countering your point. I don't remember at any prior diminishing Recchi, Horton or their contributions
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