Nah we'll just go into the settings mode and move the cap up then save it and start playing.
- JoeRussomanno

Good thinking.

I see a lot of people hellbent on trading last year's Ashbee winner and one of our talented wingers (read/Voracek) who's point totals this year weren't far off from Ryan's, who is three years older than one, and 4 mill a year more than the other.

If trading a top-shelf defenseman for Ryan is so important (which it's not) then go find another defensemen before doing that. IF Ryan gets moved before you can do that oh well.
- JoeRussomanno

Because the Flyers are so close to the Cap ceiling, you can't just go out and get another defensman before making a move. And I still dont see the need in making another move.

Timonen-Schenn
Coburn-Grossman
Carle-Bourdon

7th Lilja

Gus/Manning call up.

If Schenn or Bourdon can't handle being on a top 4 line, then they get depoted to 3rd pair, or sit in favor of Lilja for a few. If major injuries arise during the season, you address it then with trades.

Isnt there a rule that Ott and Cooke cant be on the same team. Just when I thought my hate couldnt be anymore.


That being said Id take Ott in a second. Great at faceoffs
- aosplayo

Fifth in the league.

Because the Flyers are so close to the Cap ceiling, you can't just go out and get another defensman before making a move. And I still dont see the need in making another move.

Timonen-Schenn
Coburn-Grossman
Carle-Bourdon

7th Lilja

Gus/Manning call up.

If Schenn or Bourdon can't handle being on a top 4 line, then they get depoted to 3rd pair, or sit in favor of Lilja for a few. If major injuries arise during the season, you address it then with trades.
- RooNosHockey

where's Mesz?? traded for Ryan?

Trade Coburn, Voracek and a pic for Bobby Ryan, sign Shane Doan, and a vet like Travis Moen for depth, sign Suter and Garrison...

Ryan-Giroux-Simmonds
Hartnell-Briere-Doan
Schenn-Couturier-Read
Moen-Talbot-Wellwood

Suter-Timonen
Grossman-Meszaros
Garrisson-Schenn
 
Sign Scott Clemenson as a backup, and this would set them up to go after Weber next season after Timonen retires.  I know it's not likely... Just playing fantasy GM.

Isnt there a rule that Ott and Cooke cant be on the same team. Just when I thought my hate couldnt be anymore.


That being said Id take Ott in a second. Great at faceoffs
- aosplayo

i wonder what it would take to get Ott.

Because the Flyers are so close to the Cap ceiling, you can't just go out and get another defensman before making a move. And I still dont see the need in making another move.

Timonen-Schenn
Coburn-Grossman
Carle-Bourdon

7th Lilja

Gus/Manning call up.

If Schenn or Bourdon can't handle being on a top 4 line, then they get depoted to 3rd pair, or sit in favor of Lilja for a few. If major injuries arise during the season, you address it then with trades.
- RooNosHockey

First you don't even know what shape Timmonen is going to be in. Second every year our d is depleted and we have to resort on a Phantom/phantoms playing the 5/6 spots. Third defensemen are more important than wingers and I thought Flyers fans of all people should realize that by now. Bourdon's already had two conky's in one year so I'm not trying to climb out on that limb to bring in a player I don't need.

Could be a good gamble if he's got his head problems behind him for sure. Does Jagr want more money?
- canadianpenfan

Supposedly yes

Trade Coburn, Voracek and a pic for Bobby Ryan, sign Shane Doan, and a vet like Travis Moen for depth, sign Suter and Garrison...

Ryan-Giroux-Simmonds
Hartnell-Briere-Doan
Schenn-Couturier-Read
Moen-Talbot-Wellwood

Suter-Timonen
Grossman-Meszaros
Garrisson-Schenn
 
Sign Scott Clemenson as a backup, and this would set them up to go after Weber next season after Timonen retires.  I know it's not likely... Just playing fantasy GM.
- TonyBazz

I like it -- but the price you're paying for Ryan is excessive.

Garrison...
- TonyBazz

...another Jeff Finger in the making.

where's Mesz?? traded for Ryan?
- flyersfan51

Traded. For Ryan, or whatever have you. Seriously right now your 3rd pairing is making a combined 7.1 million.... You cant have that. Just like you need some value forwards like Read, Couturier, etc... you need your value d-man to play as well. You need someone like Bourdon, Gus, or Lilja to make your cap more managable.

Fifth in the league.
- bradleyc4

Traded. For Ryan, or whatever have you. Seriously right now your 3rd pairing is making a combined 7.1 million.... You cant have that. Just like you need some value forwards like Read, Couturier, etc... you need your value d-man to play as well. You need someone like Bourdon, Gus, or Lilja to make your cap more managable.
- RooNosHockey

I agree - 7.1 for a third pair is ludicris....or however you spell it.

- aightwebang17

Dude that avatar is much better!

did we trade coody for weber yet?

Dude that avatar is much better!
- JoeRussomanno

Thx, Joe. Rockychoc hooked it up.

I like it -- but the price you're paying for Ryan is excessive.
- flyersfan51

No Bobby Ryan would be a 40 plus goal scorer for the next 8 seasons if he were playing with Giroux.

Thx, Joe. Rockychoc hooked it up.
- aightwebang17

props to RockyChoc then, that face with that hat on the old one...

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / ____________
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / _____________
Extra Forward: Jody Shelley ($1.100m) /
Qualifying Offer: Jakub Voracek ($2.250m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
LTIR During Season: Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Qualifying offer: Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.709m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
------

SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,777,123; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $8,522,877


Other players who played last season...

RFA Qualifying offers
- Harry Z, $900k, 37 games played
- Ben Holmstrom, $750k, 5 games played
- Tom Sestito, $550k, 5 games played

Others
- Gustafsson, 30 games
- Brandon Manning, 4 games


Also need to keep in mind that the following players are on two-way deals so they only account for the amount of days they were on the roster last season...
- Schenn, 3.11m, 54 games (pretty sure his cap hit was much less cause he started in AHL)
- Couturiere, 1.375m, 77 games
- Wellwood, 580k, 24 games
- Rinaldo, 545k, 66 games

***Everything is based off of days, NOT games. So to do the calculation is nearly impossible.

No Bobby Ryan would be a 40 plus goal scorer for the next 8 seasons if he were playing with Giroux.
- TonyBazz

he's been playing with Getzlaf and Perry.....they aren't slouches...

Also, if you put Voracek with Giroux, he'd score 30 I think.

We do need a forward now that Jagr is a FA and JVR is gone, and we do have 9 NHL dmen (if Carle resigns as planned)

I suggested Mueller or Latendresse. Id like Latendresse because he's a huge body who can also score. Hell, Ill take both. Both are still fairly young, will come cheap and on short term deals. Yeah, yeah, I know. Injuries. It's not like they are major players here though. Our offense is set before they're even added. They'd be complimentary guys here.

I'm stating now I want nothing to do with Bobby Ryan, because I dont think that's what this team needs right now. At this point, we need to resign Carle and Jake, a back-up goalie, and 1 forward, preferably a bigger body for the bottom six.

Watch the ball homer, the pitchers throwing non-sense. Take the walk. Hit your homerun next year when theres a different guy on the mound who's throwing meatballs at you.

No Bobby Ryan would be a 40 plus goal scorer for the next 8 seasons if he were playing with Giroux.
- TonyBazz

trust me though, i'm all for getting Bobby Ryan -- but not for that much.

First you don't even know what shape Timmonen is going to be in. Second every year our d is depleted and we have to resort on a Phantom/phantoms playing the 5/6 spots. Third defensemen are more important than wingers and I thought Flyers fans of all people should realize that by now. Bourdon's already had two conky's in one year so I'm not trying to climb out on that limb to bring in a player I don't need.
- JoeRussomanno

The defenseman were not a problem last year as much as team defense was, and we were fighting injuries all year. Coburn, Meszaros, Timonen... If there is an injury, you move the 5th d-man (Grossman, Coburn, Carle, Schenn) whoever that 5th guy is up to the 4th spot and yes you play a lilja in limited time and limited situations. All teams do that. You can't just have all your defensman making 4 million plus in a cap world.

Do we need a Ryan? No. But if your going to pay Voracek 3.5 and Ryan is only 2 million more and can score a minimum 15 more goals a year.... I want my money to be spent on top line players. Not guys making 3.5 million that might play 2nd or 3rd line.

Thx, Joe. Rockychoc hooked it up.
- aightwebang17

I concur. It suits you better now. If only Coots were sticking his tongue through his (lack of) teeth.

We do need a forward now that Jagr is a FA and JVR is gone, and we do have 9 NHL dmen (if Carle resigns as planned)

I suggested Mueller or Latendresse. Id like Latendresse because he's a huge body who can also score. Hell, Ill take both. Both are still fairly young, will come cheap and on short term deals. Yeah, yeah, I know. Injuries. It's not like they are major players here though. Our offense is set before they're even added. They'd be complimentary guys here.

I'm stating now I want nothing to do with Bobby Ryan, because I dont think that's what this team needs right now. At this point, we need to resign Carle and Jake, a back-up goalie, and 1 forward, preferably a bigger body for the bottom six.

Watch the ball homer, the pitchers throwing non-sense. Take the walk. Hit your homerun next year when theres a different guy on the mound who's throwing meatballs at you.
- mochoson

Just because Holmgren keeps saying he is confident they are going to re-sign Carle does not mean anything. Since when did we take Holmgren for his word? Him coming out and saying he is confident they are going to re-sign Carle actually implies to me that they are not going to re-sign him.