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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
Would you do Voracek, Bourdon or Gus, plus a pick (2nd rd) for Ryan?
- stveshdy

Absolutely. Theyd probably want a 1st tho.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 26 @ 5:31 PM ET
I rather have Ryan but it looks like if we give up anything other than Bourdon its an overpayment in Flyerland.

Would you do a Voracek for Ryan deal straight up? I would. Anaheim probably wouldnt.

- stveshdy


I would, too. Agree Ducks wouldn't.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
I would, too. Agree Ducks wouldn't.
- bmeltzer


I would be willing to add Bourdon or Gus and a pick.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:33 PM ET
No, I would not include a 2nd rounder.
- MJL


It would be a 2014 at the earliest even if they did, with 2013 being already highly thought of for a draft I'm sure they'd want something in that draft class.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:33 PM ET
It would be a 2014 at the earliest even if they did, with 2013 being already highly thought of for a draft I'm sure they'd want something in that draft class.
- ob18


Lets make it work OB. However, you probably want them to stand pat.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
It would be a 2014 at the earliest even if they did, with 2013 being already highly thought of for a draft I'm sure they'd want something in that draft class.
- ob18


Flyers don't have a 2nd in 13?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
It would be a 2014 at the earliest even if they did, with 2013 being already highly thought of for a draft I'm sure they'd want something in that draft class.
- ob18



2014 is in Philly right? They'll probably want some picks for the home draft.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
Flyers don't have a 2nd in 13?
- MJL



I think he's saying they'll have a better pool to pick from in '13 because the draft is supposed to be deep.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
Flyers don't have a 2nd in 13?
- MJL


Apparently they do unless this wrong. My bad.

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
2014 is in Philly right? They'll probably want some picks for the home draft.
- canadianpenfan


Yes
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
2014 is in Philly right? They'll probably want some picks for the home draft.
- canadianpenfan


Homer will trade them to make a splash. People love current NHL players more.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:36 PM ET
I think he's saying they'll have a better pool to pick from in '13 because the draft is supposed to be deep.
- canadianpenfan


Gotcha!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:36 PM ET
Lets make it work OB. However, you probably want them to stand pat.
- stveshdy


I'd want to keep all picks or land more if they are saying the 2013 draft is a good one and even 2014 looks promising at this point.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
I'd want to keep all picks or land more if they are saying the 2013 draft is a good one and even 2014 looks promising at this point.
- ob18


Draft classes are too hard to predict imo. I dont rely on it. Now if your a team that has to depend on draft choices then its a different story.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
I'd want to keep all picks or land more if they are saying the 2013 draft is a good one and even 2014 looks promising at this point.
- ob18



Martin, a 7th in '13 and a 7th in '14 for a picture of you next to the Rocky statue?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
Draft classes are too hard to predict imo. I dont rely on it. Now if your a team that has to depend on draft choices then its a different story.
- stveshdy


No doubt they are but no more so then if a trade will work out or not. Both are a shot in the dark even if it's an establish player.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
Martin, a 7th in '13 and a 7th in '14 for a picture of you next to the Rocky statue?
- canadianpenfan


canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET

- ob18




canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:44 PM ET
I'd want to keep all picks or land more if they are saying the 2013 draft is a good one and even 2014 looks promising at this point.
- ob18



This MacKinnon kid looks like the real deal- but so small

The lottery might have some real meaning next year.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:45 PM ET
No doubt they are but no more so then if a trade will work out or not. Both are a shot in the dark even if it's an establish player.
- ob18


Atleast your getting an idea of that player in the NHL. The prospects have never seen a day on that ice. Minus the early picks.

I catch your drift though.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:47 PM ET
This MacKinnon kid looks like the real deal- but so small

The lottery might have some real meaning next year.

- canadianpenfan


He's just one of 3 that are in that real early battle.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:48 PM ET
Atleast your getting an idea of that player in the NHL. The prospects have never seen a day on that ice. Minus the early picks.
- stveshdy


True, still doesn't mean things will work out. It's a choice, if I can in most years I'll stick with the pick. That's not to say if a deal comes along I think would be good to make that I wouldn't make it.

But for 2013 & 2014 I'd do my best to keep my picks and if it's possible add to them.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:49 PM ET
He's just one of 3 that are in that real early battle.
- ob18




Jones and ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:49 PM ET
He's just one of 3 that are in that real early battle.
- ob18



I still couldn't name who were the first 5 picks of this past draft. And you guys are discussing next year's draft already.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 5:49 PM ET
Jones and ?
- canadianpenfan


Sean Monahan of the Ottawa 67's
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