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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
Still no Shero
- BulliesPhan87

Thank you for pointing that out. It is unconscionable that someone that made as many contributions to hockey as Shero did has been snubbed AGAIN. This does nothing to put away the belief that his tough Flyers (which were not all that different from the "Big Bad Bruins" that preceded the "Broad Street Bullies" by just a few years in the league) ruined hockey in the eyes of some and are the reason why he is never going to the Hall.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:35 PM ET


+1, ban this Pittsburgh scum

- BulliesPhan87


I got threatened for instigating.

Pot calling the kettle...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
Well Pronger counts either way, no? In the off-season cap everyone counts I thought. So the 10% gives you 77.3 cap limit. What is the LTIR reserve allowance Bill referred to? The amount of cap space minus the cap-hit of the contract? Is that added on to the 77.3?
- GirouxForTheShow


The Flyers basically can go over the Cap by Pronger's Cap hit for the Season. So basically the Flyers Upper Limit essentially becomes $75,221,429. But if your going to do that, remember to include Pronger.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Is there a daily quota of whining about threats and bans here that I am not aware of?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Read Back MJL. I was posting in reference to how Joe was saying that Ryan only posted 8 more points then Voracek. THAT WAS WHAT MADE MY STATEMENT REVELENT. I'm not saying assists aren't important. Ryan is a much better hockey player, and just because Voracek managed to assit and secondary assist his point totals close to Ryans does not make them in the same ball park. PLEASE READ THE CONTEXT OF THE POSTS YOU ARE RESPONDING TO.

And I'm done.

- RooNosHockey


I read exactly what you said. And I read the exact context of your post. And I disagree with that point. And in my opinion that is incorrect. Assists are just as important as the goal. It's all connected in the team game.

Here is the exact post of yours that I replied to. I was not replying to discuss who is a better player over Ryan or Voracek. But to offer my opinion on the below post.

"A secondary assist is not worth the same weight as a goal. You say 8 less points... My question is how many of those assists were secondary assists. Goals have a lot more weight when your trying to compair a player by overall points.... "
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
That is on my mind as well. But most people are acting as if the Flyers need to make this blockbuster offer to get Ryan. I for one don't think his production will increase that dramatically coming here.

And I think all of the deals put forth weaken us. I don't want to trade a defenseman, or a first round pick. That is too much.

Anaheim is under the pressure here. They have the reported unhappy player. Why should the Flyers act as if they are the ones who are coming hat in hand?

Keep your top 4 d-man, keep Voracek who will continue to improve, and keep your first round pick. (Some have mentioned TWO first round picks!)

Ryan is NOT worth it.

Ill say it again, sign a big defensive forward, and possibly another bruiser for defense who will challenge for the 6th spot.

And as for Schultz, and him replacing Carle....

- MBFlyerfan

Ryan stinks. I wouldnt trade Bourdon for him straight up at this point. Hes a crybaby whos career is on the downslide. Stay in Anaheim you punk.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
I read exactly what you said. And I read the exact context of your postAnd I disagree with that point. And in my opinion that is incorrect. Assists are just as important as the goal. It's all connected in the team game.
- MJL

Dude, why?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
Is there a daily quota of whining about threats and bans here that I am not aware of?
- Flyskippy



Yes, and you are way behind skip. Please complain only to your local mod(s) though.

As a side note Daman- if you consider what I posted in response to someone else the same as what you've been pulling in the Pens thread lately equal I don't know what to tell ya pal.

And no, we can't ban each other.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
Ryan stinks. I wouldnt trade Bourdon for him straight up at this point. Hes a crybaby whos career is on the downslide. Stay in Anaheim you punk.
- stveshdy



BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
Is there a daily quota of whining about threats and bans here that I am not aware of?
- Flyskippy

It is now my turn to remind you of what season it is. Get in the spirit!
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:44 PM ET


+1, ban this Pittsburgh scum

- BulliesPhan87




Friends off.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yes, and you are way behind skip. Please complain only to your local mod(s) though.

As a side note Daman- if you consider what I posted in response to someone else the same as what you've been pulling in the Pens thread lately equal I don't know what to tell ya pal.

And no, we can't ban each other.

- canadianpenfan

I've never been threatened (by a mod, anyway) or banned, so I guess I am missing out. I imagine when one is reinstated they receive a message stating, "Welcome back! Please be sure to express how you feel about your experience on the very board where you instigated the infraction that caused your ban."
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:45 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan


I'll give you two...

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:45 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan

Let's also remember WHO wrote the article. Ryan's responses to said article are less than endorsing.

WHO = The hack, Randy Miller
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
I've never been threatened (by a mod, anyway) or banned, so I guess I am missing out. I imagine when one is reinstated they receive a message stating, "Welcome back! Please be sure to express how you feel about your experience on the very board where you instigated the infraction that caused your ban."
- Flyskippy


What you reading these days Skip?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
I've never been threatened (by a mod, anyway) or banned, so I guess I am missing out. I imagine when one is reinstated they receive a message stating, "Welcome back! Please be sure to express how you feel about your experience on the very board where you instigated the infraction that caused your ban."
- Flyskippy



Actually no, we mail out a survey so we can hear about your experience.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
Let's also remember WHO wrote the article. Ryan's responses to said article are less than endorsing.

WHO = The hack, Randy Miller

- Flyskippy


Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
It is now my turn to remind you of what season it is. Get in the spirit!
- BulliesPhan87


Oh. Um... Ok. I say we trade Pronger's contract to a team trying to reach the cap floor and a #1 defenseman in case he is ever --

oh, Seravalli it, I can't do this.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
Friends off.
- canadianpenfan


No peace in our time!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
What you reading these days Skip?
- stveshdy


U2 by U2
Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis
and
The Collected Works of G. K. Chesterton, Vol. 1
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
U2 by U2
Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis
and
The Collected Works of G. K. Chesterton, Vol. 1

- Flyskippy


Interesting choices.

What type of books are you more into horror, love, sci-fi, fiction, autobiography?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
This might help.

Asperger syndrome......

- RooNosHockey




tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
I've never been threatened (by a mod, anyway) or banned, so I guess I am missing out. I imagine when one is reinstated they receive a message stating, "Welcome back! Please be sure to express how you feel about your experience on the very board where you instigated the infraction that caused your ban."
- Flyskippy


Funny how people are so concerned with their bans (and the reasoning behind them). Usually it's due to them acting like a schmutz, yet when they come back it's just more of the same.

Anyhow, no to Ryan, no to Nash, and no to anyone that will cost the team more than they're getting in return, or will be a detriment to what the Flyers need - team defense. We have enough defensive liabilities in the forward ranks as it is.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
Interesting choices.

What type of books are you more into horror, love, sci-fi, fiction, autobiography?

- stveshdy


Faith, fiction (prefer swords & sorcery or sci-fi, but will read contemporary too), and biography are my druthers.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:53 PM ET

- MBFlyerfan


Roo may be spending some time in the penalty box (ban) for that. Thats atleast two minutes for high sticking.
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