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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
I thought that was pretty good. Nice analogy right there.
- stveshdy



*Notices new avatar*


What do you think they should do?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
What's up with Latendresse playing so few games the last couple seasons? Last time I'd heard his name he was in the midst of a reversal of fortunate after being traded from the Habs.

Also, I agree with the things you are saying. That is, unless there's a way to get a Weber or a Seabrooke without losing 28 or 14.

- BulliesPhan87


Concussion issues, by all accounts he's 100% healthy now, though
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
Pretty much everyone that has any connections with the team are sure there is already a deal in place and they are just waiting for July 1 tagging space to sign it. So its not just Homer, but Carle, his agent... etc..
- RooNosHockey


Time will tell!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
Suter will not play for Philly and Parise wants to be with his "friend" so you can rule both out. Schultz will not play for Philly being a west coast guy. I cant see the flyers trading all those pieces for Ryan when they can get him for free in a couple of years. Homer will sign a low cost forward and goalie being he already made his big trade.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
Who are the 8?

Coburn-Grossman
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-Lilja

I have a 6 count without Carle... unless you are counting MAB and Pronger?

- Flyers2821


MAB and Gus. Carle makes it 9
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
The defensemen were a problem. SO much so that Homer had to go out and get two of them at the deadline. If you don't need Ryan then there's no sense in getting him at the cost of shedding a defenseman and a 2nd or 3rd line winger for 15 more goals a year, even if that's how much more it would be which none of us even knows. What we do know is he got 8 or 9 points more than the one forward we are willing to trade.

All this Bobby Ryan trade really does is deplete the needed depth we need. Every year the Flyers are depleted do to injury. Not for lack of goal scoring. IF team defense was an even bigger problem than the actual defenseman why deplete your roster of players who contribute to the solution? You want Bobby Ryan, fine but don't overpay. He's not worth more than Mezaros and maybe a late round draft pick. Mezaros is a dynamic defenseman, who battled back from what should have been a season maybe career ending injury. On top of that he was our best defenseman last year with names like Timonen and Pronger playing. As for Coburn, I'd say he was our best defenseman this year, either one of those guys should be enough for Ryan otherwise you're overpaying.

Please a first round pick, look at the players we've found with late first round picks....

- JoeRussomanno


That's because of the injuries, not because they didn't have good defensmen on the team.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
No they're both awesome players. But Ryan would put more heart and soul into a Flyers uniform more so than a Ducks uniform. And Getzlaf is great but Giroux is the best passer in the NHL right now, IMO.
- TonyBazz


I think that is silly. But your second point is mostly valid. He is better at seeing the ice then Perry or Getzlaf.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
He's actually a younger actor that's been in some pretty funny poop
- mochoson



Well if he's an actor I retract my statement.

He's got the nerdy loser role down pat.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
I wasn't being sarcastic when I said sound strategy. I like it.
- JoeRussomanno


Thank you sir

I really do think Homer is thinking the same way. I'm not expecting big changes
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
No love for Gustafson? He had a pretty good +/- in the regular season and playoffs. Is he not as good as his numbers?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
MAB and Gus. Carle makes it 9
- mochoson


Gus will be on the Phantoms and I am willing to bet MAB gets traded
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
That's because of the injuries, not because they didn't have good defensmen on the team.
- funmaster18

yes and the way they are set up now we are dug in deep to deal with those contingencies.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
*Notices new avatar*


What do you think they should do?

- canadianpenfan


I think they should offer Bourdon or Gus/Cousins/1st round pick. Keep all your assests. Flyers are in no rush to acquire Ryan so they can sit back and build the rest of their team through UFA. If the Ducks are willing to lower the asking price like the offer I suggested then I would make the move.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
Gus will be on the Phantoms
- Flyers2821


Over MAB? Did you watch the playoffs?

Gus is an NHLer now as far as I'm concerned.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
he's been playing with Getzlaf and Perry.....they aren't slouches...

Also, if you put Voracek with Giroux, he'd score 30 I think.

- flyersfan51


Voracek will have to shoot a lot more than he has in the past to get 30 goals. I like Voracek as a player but he is more of a playmaker than finisher.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
Over MAB? Did you watch the playoffs?

Gus is an NHLer now as far as I'm concerned.

- mochoson


Unless Timonen is not ready to start the season, Gus will be in the AHL.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:23 PM ET
Over MAB? Did you watch the playoffs?

Gus is an NHLer now as far as I'm concerned.

- mochoson


I like Gus but his size worries me at times because he was not very good in that Devils series but than again who was.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
Unless Timonen is not ready to start the season, Gus will be in the AHL.
- Flyers2821


How you come to that conclusion I haven't the slightest clue.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
Voracek will have to shoot a lot more than he has in the past to get 30 goals. I like Voracek as a player but he is more of a playmaker than finisher.
- sulshawn


There is not a player on the Flyers roster that Flyers fans overrate more than Voracek.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Gus will be on the Phantoms and I am willing to bet MAB gets traded
- Flyers2821


If they re-sign Carle and have these six defensemen (Timonen-Schenn-Grossman-Coburn-Mesazros-Carle), it is likely MAB will get traded like they traded Powe.

I also agree with another post that says that is a ridiculous amount of money for a 3rd pairing.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
I like Gus but his size worries me at times because he was not very good in that Devils series but than again who was.
- stveshdy


And in the Pittsburgh series he completely shut-down Malkin on 3 consecutive shifts who is not only one of the best on the planet, but he towers over Gus.

Gus is our 7th man until further notice.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Over MAB? Did you watch the playoffs?

Gus is an NHLer now as far as I'm concerned.

- mochoson


I think the flyers like MAB more. Just my opinion.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Voracek will have to shoot a lot more than he has in the past to get 30 goals. I like Voracek as a player but he is more of a playmaker than finisher.
- sulshawn


I agree. I love Voracek and I think hes a very good player but he just isn't a finisher but hopefully he can work on that area during the offseason.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
How you come to that conclusion I haven't the slightest clue.
- mochoson


There is no room.

Coburn-Grossman
Timonen-Schenn
Meszaros-Carle/FA signing
Lilja

and MAB needs to clear waivers to go back down the the Phantoms.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
There is not a player on the Flyers roster that Flyers fans overrate more than Voracek.
- Flyers2821


Patrik Elias said he's our best forward other then Giroux.

I think Patrik Elias knows more about hockey then just about everyone in here combined x9834983
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