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IrishRage
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON
Joined: 08.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:55 AM ET
He hasnt said this just yet...speculation.






Morning all.

- noename09


I still think his tweet yesterday was hilarious.
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Jun 26 @ 8:56 AM ET
Lou doesn't want to waive for the Leafs??? the feeling is mutual.
- burn


Lu wants Florida, When Florida shows no interest because Markstrom will be here for them soon, he will have to expand his list, prob keep Leafs off it then aswell seeing the beehive of toronto media so far and not wanting anything to do with that.
triggermartin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 8:59 AM ET
I thought I read he wants to play on a Canadian team, and if he truly is demanding top 4 minutes like some of the rumours are suggesting... we can cross Detroit off the list too

Calgary would make sense also

- ejeezy


Calgary right now seems like the Leafs of 2005. Doubt Schultz signs there. My gut is starting to tell me Schultz will be a Leaf, too. The Schenn trade created a roster spot, and I would think one of Franson, Gunnar or Liles may be on the way out in another deal. The dots do seem to connect with Toronto, and the whole rumour about wanting to play in the West may have been a smokescreen just to settle down the tampering talk that flared up a few months ago.
MindFr3eak
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: strathvegas, ON
Joined: 01.18.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:01 AM ET
so, Nash, Parise, Luongo and Schulz are coming.

i think i might have to become a Leaf fan.

- DoubleDown


LOL, come on now, in every teams forum (not just ours) it's a frenzy of what can get for what, that's what hockey is all about, we are no different than 29 other teams fans, were just hated more.
triggermartin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:03 AM ET
so, Nash, Parise, Luongo and Schulz are coming.

i think i might have to become a Leaf fan.

- DoubleDown



Why would you when you've got Kabs, Gomez, Markov, and Gionta to cheer for?
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:11 AM ET
Calgary right now seems like the Leafs of 2005. Doubt Schultz signs there. My gut is starting to tell me Schultz will be a Leaf, too. The Schenn trade created a roster spot, and I would think one of Franson, Gunnar or Liles may be on the way out in another deal. The dots do seem to connect with Toronto, and the whole rumour about wanting to play in the West may have been a smokescreen just to settle down the tampering talk that flared up a few months ago.
- triggermartin


Definitely won't hurt when Burke heads over to the Newport offices with Schultz's buddy Jake in tow, probably will bring JVR along as well....not that Jake and Justin haven't already spoken about this before today.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
This Luongo situation is a farce of epic proportion... The story changes week to week and everything is speculation. What is Gillis' motivation to go into the season with Luongo? To squeeze out and extra 2nd or 3rd rounder from a team? Like really who gives a poop.

In my mind a fair trade is an average roster player, a teams 2nd or 3rd ranked prospect and a salary dump to make the cap work. For the Leafs something like Franson, Connolly and Blacker/Holzer would be a fair trade

If Gillis' thinks he's getting a Jake Gardiner he's just flat out insane and holding out until Sept or Oct won't get him Gardiner. Aside from the massive upside Gardiner posses he is the Leafs ticket to acquiring Schultz.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:15 AM ET
LOL, come on now, in every teams forum (not just ours) it's a frenzy of what can get for what, that's what hockey is all about, we are no different than 29 other teams fans, were just hated more.
- MindFr3eak


Nash isn't coming here. I could see Burke possibly taking a run at Parise though and then moving Lupul in a package for a center (Stastny maybe), but even that's going to be a stretch because unless he has a gentleman's agreement with a trade partner, that's a whole lot of wingers and not a lot of salary cap.

I think Burke's more likely to take a run at Suter and fill a stay-at-home void on the backend. Suter and Dion would be a pretty awesome pairing.
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:16 AM ET
EK reporting that PArise,Nash, Sutter and Luongo all coming to Toronto.


My guess is we get Antropov back...............Sigh............
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 26 @ 9:16 AM ET
This Luongo situation is a farce of epic proportion... The story changes week to week and everything is speculation. What is Gillis' motivation to go into the season with Luongo? To squeeze out and extra 2nd or 3rd rounder from a team? Like really who gives a poop.

In my mind a fair trade is an average roster player, a teams 2nd or 3rd ranked prospect and a salary dump to make the cap work. For the Leafs something like Franson, Connolly and Blacker/Holzer would be a fair trade

If Gillis' thinks he's getting a Jake Gardiner he's just flat out insane and holding out until Sept or Oct won't get him Gardiner. Aside from the massive upside Gardiner posses he is the Leafs ticket to acquiring Schultz.

- Mr_Smokey


Yeah, I think it'll be something like D'Amigo, Komisarek, and a 2nd.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
This Luongo situation is a farce of epic proportion... The story changes week to week and everything is speculation. What is Gillis' motivation to go into the season with Luongo? To squeeze out and extra 2nd or 3rd rounder from a team? Like really who gives a poop.

In my mind a fair trade is an average roster player, a teams 2nd or 3rd ranked prospect and a salary dump to make the cap work. For the Leafs something like Franson, Connolly and Blacker/Holzer would be a fair trade

If Gillis' thinks he's getting a Jake Gardiner he's just flat out insane and holding out until Sept or Oct won't get him Gardiner. Aside from the massive upside Gardiner posses he is the Leafs ticket to acquiring Schultz.

- Mr_Smokey


That's the problem right there. Gillis is convinced he should be getting a player or two (that's a key here) like Gardiner or the equivalent from which ever team is interested. Florida has already said publicly that they will not part with their top prospects. Puts Gillis in a bind...unless he really does keep Luongo, in which case, give Schneider a 5 year, $23 million offer sheet. I know Vancouver will likely match, but they'll have almost 10 million tied up in their two goalies.
triggermartin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
This Luongo situation is a farce of epic proportion... The story changes week to week and everything is speculation. What is Gillis' motivation to go into the season with Luongo? To squeeze out and extra 2nd or 3rd rounder from a team? Like really who gives a poop.

In my mind a fair trade is an average roster player, a teams 2nd or 3rd ranked prospect and a salary dump to make the cap work. For the Leafs something like Franson, Connolly and Blacker/Holzer would be a fair trade

If Gillis' thinks he's getting a Jake Gardiner he's just flat out insane and holding out until Sept or Oct won't get him Gardiner. Aside from the massive upside Gardiner posses he is the Leafs ticket to acquiring Schultz.

- Mr_Smokey



I really think it has a lot to do with personality. I don't think Gillis wants to deal with Burke unless he hits a homerun and comes out the 'winner', which I just don't see happening in this situation. I actually believe Burke when he says he won't overpay. IMO, Gillis is dealing with Burke/Nonis' shadow in Vancouver - for the most part they built the team that he is caretaking, and he doesn't want to give them what they need unless he 'one ups' them.
GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
EK reporting that PArise,Nash, Sutter and Luongo all coming to Toronto.


My guess is we get Antropov back...............Sigh............

- billyberg10


... Funny, I considered that possibility also.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
Yeah, I think it'll be something like D'Amigo, Komisarek, and a 2nd.
- gravyface


Also a fair trade, if Gillis was dead set against taking Komisarek and who could blame him then he takes Armstrong or Lombardi. Komi could be bought out through amnesty over the summer.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:22 AM ET
I really think it has a lot to do with personality. I really don't think Gillis wants to deal with Burke unless he hits a homerun and comes out the 'winner', which I just don't see happening in this situation. I actually believe Burke when he says he won't overpay. IMO, Gillis is dealing with Burke/Nonis' shadow in Vancouver - for the most part they built the team that he is caretaking.
- triggermartin


I could understand that position, really. Imagine completing a merely average trade for one of your more high profile players with two of the teams former GMs who were both ceremoniously thrown out of the city years ago.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:23 AM ET
kulemin, kadri, franson, 2nd round pick

Nash


Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
Nash-Grabovski-JVR
Mac-Connolly-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Armstrong (trade for Prust or Clutterbuck [3rd or 4th line)


Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
I really think it has a lot to do with personality. I don't think Gillis wants to deal with Burke unless he hits a homerun and comes out the 'winner', which I just don't see happening in this situation. I actually believe Burke when he says he won't overpay. IMO, Gillis is dealing with Burke/Nonis' shadow in Vancouver - for the most part they built the team that he is caretaking, and he doesn't want to give them what they need unless he 'one ups' them.
- triggermartin


Yeah you're right there too... But if Gillis thinks he's getting the better of Burke in a trade he's sorely mistaken..

The options are not very plentiful.. But if you believe the Van fans teams are lining up
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
(frank) it, let's take a chance on Mueller.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
I really think it has a lot to do with personality. I don't think Gillis wants to deal with Burke unless he hits a homerun and comes out the 'winner', which I just don't see happening in this situation. I actually believe Burke when he says he won't overpay. IMO, Gillis is dealing with Burke/Nonis' shadow in Vancouver - for the most part they built the team that he is caretaking, and he doesn't want to give them what they need unless he 'one ups' them.
- triggermartin



I think you get a pretty good sense of the Canuck's fan base by spending time with the deep thinkers in Esplen's thread. There is such a strong anti-central Canada fixation and they hate the idea of the leafs "winning the deal" for Luongo more than they hate the idea of having him back.

I don't think he has submitted an actual list but may have decided that Florida is his first choice. Tallon has made it clear that he won't pay much. The only other team interested is the Leafs and here too, Burke has made it clear that he won't pay much.

Seem to be three options:

1) Gillis relents and makes deal for scraps with Florida -- makes Luo and Canuck fans happy.
2) Burke offers something more that Tallon offers and he comes here -- Canuck fans claim huge victory because it is more than just Komi
3) He stays
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
(frank) it, let's take a chance on Mueller.
- yea-ok-buddy


So who does he replace and where do we send the guy that's out ?
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
I think you get a pretty good sense of the Canuck's fan base by spending time with the deep thinkers in Esplen's thread. There is such a strong anti-central Canada fixation and they hate the idea of the leafs "winning the deal" for Luongo more than they hate the idea of having him back.

I don't think he has submitted an actual list but may have decided that Florida is his first choice. Tallon has made it clear that he won't pay much. The only other team interested is the Leafs and here too, Burke has made it clear that he won't pay much.

Seem to be three options:

1) Gillis relents and makes deal for scraps with Florida -- makes Luo and Canuck fans happy.
2) Burke offers something more that Tallon offers and he comes here -- Canuck fans claim huge victory because it is more than just Komi
3) He stays

- Canada Cup


I don't think Florida has the money to take on the contract, annually and in the long term. No clue how much they lose every year but my guess is in the 20-30 million range.. adding Luongo does not seem feasible. Also add to the fact they have a goaltending prospect they'd like to get a good look at.
bleedingblu
Location: Did Rene wake up yet?
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:42 AM ET
I am fully expecting and convinced that Burke will have a new 1C in place for september........ The question is who??

By saying a 1C, I am not necessarily implying a bona fide 1C. Just someone different than Bozak

Who do you think he snags??

- faceto27


Yah, probably Doan or Gaustad.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:43 AM ET
I had a fun chat with Dozzer last night via iPhone messaging, you were pretty busy, eh?
- LeafMan


lol yea we were discussing the flames quite abit lol...have been doing some homework since
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:45 AM ET
lol yea we were discussing the flames quite abit lol...have been doing some homework since
- noename09

We will help you out and try to get you in as best we can, give the word and I will send out the emails.
LakesideBlues
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Chemical Valley, ON
Joined: 09.01.2010

Jun 26 @ 9:47 AM ET
thats the problem with our defense, when we play teams like boston/philly/LA etc, we're going to get out-muscled along the boards thus meaning the puck stays in our end 10 minutes per period
- peddy-93


Yeah but our breakout will be scary, nevermind the blueline action on the PP.
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