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i'm betting you think that schultz is behaving just fine. in fact, i'm sure, you'll label him as a "character guy," AS LONG as he signs with the leafs.
he's an over indulgent whiny suck if he doesn't sign with them right? - RealityChecker
WHATEVER!
Let's see if you'll be singing the same tune if Schultz decides to play close to home and signs with Vancouver.
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I'm not married at all to him. In fact, I've been less than enthused about the numbers he has put up since coming to North America. But, it is widely known that he is the "goalie of the future." His health is a concern, especially with knee issues at such a young age, but there is no doubt he's a potential superstar. Would Tallon really be willing to sign him to another more lucrative deal only to see him backup Luongo for 5-6 years? Seems like a terrible plan to me. - spiegs13
I'd have to agree with this and your article. Stats aside, I do believe Luongo is an upgrade to anything Florida currently has, but when I first heard the connection I was scratching my head as well. The only thing I came up with is that Markstrom's injury concerns are perhaps a bit worse than advertised and more of the chronic variety as opposed to the one-off type. |
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According to Canucks fans, Lack is apparently "the best goalie not in the NHL!"
Sure hope he's the answer in the next year or two before the Canucks' cup window closes! - As_I_See_It
Any Canuck fan that says that is delusional. You just never know with goalies, even if they put up good numbers in the AHL. That being said, yes he is a very promising goalie because he has the numbers. It's more ridiculous to me when Leafs fans say that they would be okay with Reimer as starter and that Scrivens is the goalie of the future just because he put up some nice AHL numbers on a very good team.
Lack is 6'5 feet tall with and very athletic. He's also put up some very solid numbers on average AHL teams. He was also born 2 years after Scrivens. He was in your organization there would be a lot more hype and a lot more Leafs fans saying "we don't need Luongo."
Not to mention we have another promising goalie in Joe Cannatta who is following a similar career path that Cory Schneider was and is putting up some great numbers as well.
As for the "window" yeah it may be closing, but last time I checked as long as you have great goaltending you'll always have a shot to win in this league. I hope you guys will even have a "window" in the next few years. Good luck!
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Nucker101
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Tallon has one thing on his mind since becoming GM on day one in Chicago. Win the Cup. He doesn't wait to win. He wants to win it. Will anyone care how Chicago keeps their current team now with cap issues, or will they care more about the fact that they won the Cup two years ago? The latter, obviously.
I think that if the Panthers had Luongo in this year's playoffs that they would have eliminated the Devils.
I am still bitter about Luongo's way of leaving Florida, but i think the guy would elevate the Panthers.
Yes, Theo and Clemmer did exceptionally well this past season and they exceeded my expectations. Can they repeat it, though? I don't know. Tough to say if they will do it again.
The point here is that Garrison will most likely head for free agency. The Panthers need offense. How much offense is available this off-season? Not much, at all. Sure we hear rumors about Ryan from the Ducks, but it's all speculative. Nash? No. The free agency market? Really has no one.
The Carolina Hurricanes got better with Jordan Staal. The Tampa Bay Lightning will be tougher to beat because at least they have a decent goaltender now. The Capitals' offense will emerge again and Ribeiro was a superb addition.
What is the answer to improve the Panthers team? It has to improve. The hardest thing for them to do this upcoming season is to make the playoffs again.
We may see Derek Roy, Dave Bolland....maybe? Who knows what the trade market is like. But here is what we do know, goaltending was solid but still remains questionable.
Bringing in Luongo means completely solidifying the net for four to five years. Markstrom? No goalie prospect ever deserves an open job in the crease. Even Lundqvist started out as a back-up.
I am not fully in favor of getting Luongo, but if Tallon does then i trust his judgement and i respect his decision to improve the team and win.
We'll see what happens. It is his job to kick the tires on any player that can improve the team. - HTRmikster
Very well said. Solid post!
I just hope that MG tries to keep his asking price realistic, apparently he wants Bjugstad or Gudbranson which I highly doubt Tallon will give up in a trade for Luongo and IMO MG is asking too much. Hopefully these two sides can work out a deal, I'd much rather see Luongo in Florida than Toronto.
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Theodore has a NTC. He is going to retire a Panther. Either it happens after next season or he'll be retained for another year or two if he's needed as a back-up. |
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it's you who will be hypocritical b/c you called out garrison's behaviour.
players are selfish b/c... guess what? we all are. why shouldn't shultz, garrison, parise, suter etc be strictly motivated by their own self interest?
i'm not the one throwing out pejoratives about a guy who has earned his UFA status and is open to hearing his options.
for the record, i don't want the canucks to get him b/c i think it will be an overpayment. i like him at $3.5M max and believe that more than that will not be worth it. i'd like to get shultz too. i will love having either guy or both on the canucks (as long as the dollars work for garrison).
if either or both don't sign with the canucks, i'm not going to call them out for being selfish or a dbag as you did. they are looking out for their own self interest. something i would do if i was in a similar position.
now that you've made your opinion of garrison known, i'd love to hear what you have to say about schultz's behaviour. what do you think about it? - RealityChecker
I don't fully agree with Schultz's actions or lack thereof either! Not really much more to be said on the matter.
Could he have handled himself better? Absolutely. Will I think of him any different regardless of where he signs. No. If he ends up a Leaf, great, if not, who cares! |
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RealityChecker
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Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund Joined: 04.18.2010
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I don't fully agree with Schultz's actions or lack thereof either! Not really much more to be said on the matter.
Could he have handled himself better? Absolutely. Will I think of him any different regardless of where he signs. No. If he ends up a Leaf, great, if not, who cares! - As_I_See_It
then why are you calling garrison a d-bag? oh wait, he's rumoured to want to sign in vancouver and not toronto... |
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i'm not the one throwing out pejoratives about a guy who has earned his UFA status and is open to hearing his options. - RealityChecker
DUDE!
"pejoratives", on Hockeybuzz, really?
I like it
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GoneFull
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then why are you calling garrison a d-bag? oh wait, he's rumoured to want to sign in vancouver and not toronto... - RealityChecker
Well, yes actually
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then why are you calling garrison a d-bag? oh wait, he's rumoured to want to sign in vancouver and not toronto... - RealityChecker
Don't try to spin this into something it's not.
I couldn't give two sh!ts if Garrison signed in Toronto.
Would you be happier if I called Schultz a d-bag as well? FINE!
Schultz... Has... Acted... Like... A... Douche... Bag!
Happy? Great! Now STFU. |
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RealityChecker
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Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund Joined: 04.18.2010
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Don't try to spin this into something it's not.
I couldn't give two sh!ts if Garrison signed in Toronto.
Would you be happier if I called Schultz a d-bag as well? FINE!
Schultz... Has... Acted... Like... A... Douche... Bag!
Happy? Great! Now STFU. - As_I_See_It
well done. if shultz signs in toronto, "Schultz... Has... Acted... Like... A... Douche... Bag!" will be a great location. thanks buddy! have a nice day. |
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I think the one thing we are not considering here is that like it or not Luongo is a world class Gold medal winning Goalie who wants to go to Florida. Has singled that team out. Lots of players say they want to play in Canada, for New York, Philly, Toronto, Detriot... very few players of Bobby Lou's stature ever say, "I want to play in a Southern market" Having Lu singling out Florida could start making the Panthers a team that attracts bigger names. For a smaller market team that's not something that comes along all the time.
Understand I like the Panthers & Tallon a lot, I like what they did last year and actually predicted they'd make the playoffs. But they are NOT a destination players usually ask to get traded to. |
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RealityChecker
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Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund Joined: 04.18.2010
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I think the one thing we are not considering here is that like it or not Luongo is a world class Gold medal winning Goalie who wants to go to Florida. Has singled that team out. Lots of players say they want to play in Canada, for New York, Philly, Toronto, Detriot... very few players of Bobby Lou's stature ever say, "I want to play in a Southern market" Having Lu singling out Florida could start making the Panthers a team that attracts bigger names. For a smaller market team that's not something that comes along all the time.
Understand I like the Panthers & Tallon a lot, I like what they did last year and actually predicted they'd make the playoffs. But they are NOT a destination players usually ask to get traded to. - flyler
Luongo also has his primary home in Florida so I think that has more to do with it than the team. |
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Any Canuck fan that says that is delusional. You just never know with goalies, even if they put up good numbers in the AHL. That being said, yes he is a very promising goalie because he has the numbers. It's more ridiculous to me when Leafs fans say that they would be okay with Reimer as starter and that Scrivens is the goalie of the future just because he put up some nice AHL numbers on a very good team.
Lack is 6'5 feet tall with and very athletic. He's also put up some very solid numbers on average AHL teams. He was also born 2 years after Scrivens. He was in your organization there would be a lot more hype and a lot more Leafs fans saying "we don't need Luongo."
Not to mention we have another promising goalie in Joe Cannatta who is following a similar career path that Cory Schneider was and is putting up some great numbers as well.
As for the "window" yeah it may be closing, but last time I checked as long as you have great goaltending you'll always have a shot to win in this league. I hope you guys will even have a "window" in the next few years. Good luck!
- Nucker101
I actually think lack will be better then Schneider... So trade schneids
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Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL Joined: 07.21.2009
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I think the one thing we are not considering here is that like it or not Luongo is a world class Gold medal winning Goalie who wants to go to Florida. Has singled that team out. Lots of players say they want to play in Canada, for New York, Philly, Toronto, Detriot... very few players of Bobby Lou's stature ever say, "I want to play in a Southern market" Having Lu singling out Florida could start making the Panthers a team that attracts bigger names. For a smaller market team that's not something that comes along all the time.
Understand I like the Panthers & Tallon a lot, I like what they did last year and actually predicted they'd make the playoffs. But they are NOT a destination players usually ask to get traded to. - flyler
Excuse me sir... can you stop making this sound like a good thing?!?!?!?!?
No seriously, I am in favor of bringing him back. |
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Location: Whistler, BC Joined: 06.25.2011
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Very well said. Solid post!
I just hope that MG tries to keep his asking price realistic, apparently he wants Bjugstad or Gudbranson which I highly doubt Tallon will give up in a trade for Luongo and IMO MG is asking too much. Hopefully these two sides can work out a deal, I'd much rather see Luongo in Florida than Toronto.
- Nucker101
Agreed. It's all very hush hush with MG but I'd love to know what his asking price is (realistically, not his opening bid) and the offers coming back. Gudbrandson coming back, as much as I'd love it, is madness. I could perhaps see one of their more mid-level prospects or someone like a Upshall.
When they say Florida would need a "bad contract" coming back, I'm not sure who they have in mind. Campbell has the largest but he's now their #1 Dman. Jovo will retire in Florida (ie won't waive for a VAN reunion). Fleischmann is a top liner so no go there. That really only leaves Upshall (who has a modified NTC), Kopecky, or Bergenheim. |
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One thing we can agree on: It is pathetic using the quote of an idiot fan of a team that you don't like as a location.
You're right, it's pathetic! - RealityChecker
Not when you can capture a statement like I have from arguably the Canucks biggest troll that flies in the face of and pretty much contradicts everything he says that is anti-Leafs.
So please, use my quote, I'm flattered. |
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RealityChecker
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Not when you can capture a statement like I have from arguably the Canucks biggest troll that flies in the face of and pretty much contradicts everything he says that is anti-Leafs.
So please, use my quote, I'm flattered. - As_I_See_It
if you don't understand the sarcasm from the quote you're using, hockeybuzz is not your biggest problem. |
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I actually think lack will be better then Schneider... So trade schneids - numbear
And Morgan Rielly is the next Paul Coffey, while Gardiner is the next Niedermeyer.
Just so you know, Burke would have picked Rielly even if the Leafs had the first pick!
Whatever Feaster does, he shouldn't trade Jankowski because "he's going to be the best player from this draft in 10 years!"
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And Morgan Rielly is the next Paul Coffey, while Gardiner is the next Niedermeyer.
Just so you know, Burke would have picked Rielly even if the Leafs had the first pick!
Whatever Feaster does, he shouldn't trade Jankowski because "he's going to be the best player from this draft in 10 years!" - As_I_See_It
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if you don't understand the sarcasm from the quote you're using, hockeybuzz is not your biggest problem. - RealityChecker
If you don't understand the nature of my relationship with Scooby-Doo, then you probably shouldn't be commenting on something that you know nothing about!
Thanks for comin' out! |
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RealityChecker
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If you don't understand the nature of my relationship with Scooby-Doo, then you probably shouldn't be commenting on something that you know nothing about!
Thanks for comin' out! - As_I_See_It
I clearly don't.... not that there's anything wrong with that! |
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