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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:51 PM ET
The problem is what is the bargaining chip. What do you have to offer him that any other team can't. It's not money, every team is going to offer the same money. The only chip is playing time and role on the team. Flyers, especially if they re-sign Carle are full on defense. Kids not stupid. He knows he'd be put in a back seat here.
- MJL


Unless they move one for a forward. Okay Ill stop now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
Unless they move one for a forward. Okay Ill stop now.
- stveshdy


Extremely possible. Even still, how can they promise him a prominent role? Unless they lie to him. But again I think him and his agent are smart enough to realize that.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/...d=8663337344658033785-711
- MBFlyerfan

sounds good to me.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
Extremely possible. Even still, how can they promise him a prominent role? Unless they lie to him. But again I think him and his agent are smart enough to realize that.
- MJL


I honestly dont see a team offering him more than 2nd pairing and PP time. Only difference is he would be 3rd pairing player here until an injury or two occured.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
I honestly dont see a team offering him more than 2nd pairing and PP time. Only difference is he would be 3rd pairing player here until an injury or two occured.
- stveshdy



I'm not sure how any top team can offer the kid a guaranteed prominent role. If that is indeed what he is looking for.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
Any recommendations for whom to follow on Twitter for reliable info on Hockey News?

I began to follow Darren Dreger after one of the mod's here posted his Tweet on the Scheen / JVR trade.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:02 PM ET
I'm not sure how any top team can offer the kid a guaranteed prominent role. If that is indeed what he is looking for.
- MJL


I agree with you. But some team may be dumb enough to do it. I think the most you could guarantee him is a roster spot on the big club if you truly believe hes that good to step in and play.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:03 PM ET
I honestly dont see a team offering him more than 2nd pairing and PP time. Only difference is he would be 3rd pairing player here until an injury or two occured.
- stveshdy


I have a definite problem with any player who believes he should be handed a spot in the line-up. Moreover, I wouldn't want anybody with such a sense of entitlement on my team.

Go have a terrific career with the Nucks, you brat.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:04 PM ET
I have a definite problem with any player who believes he should be handed a spot in the line-up. Moreover, I wouldn't want anybody with such a sense of entitlement on my team.

Go have a terrific career with the Nucks, you brat.

- 77rams



Yea, I wouldn't be crazy about it either. But I'm keeping in mind that I only know what I read.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:05 PM ET
I have a definite problem with any player who believes he should be handed a spot in the line-up. Moreover, I wouldn't want anybody with such a sense of entitlement on my team.

Go have a terrific career with the Nucks, you brat.

- 77rams


Dont disagree b/c I always believe you earn your spot. We are all speculating thats what he wants. I personally dont know if that is true.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:07 PM ET
Any recommendations for whom to follow on Twitter for reliable info on Hockey News?

I began to follow Darren Dreger after one of the mod's here posted his Tweet on the Scheen / JVR trade.

- DrMidnite

@D_LEED
@ToddCordell
@sbaickerCSN
@billmeltzer
@TSNBobMcKenzie

off the top of my head
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:09 PM ET
If the flyers did trade for Ryan do you think they would have Any interest in sign Peter muller it days the avs didn't give him a qualifying offer and he will become a ufa
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:09 PM ET
Meszaros, Voracek, Pick for Bobby Ryan.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:09 PM ET
I have a definite problem with any player who believes he should be handed a spot in the line-up. Moreover, I wouldn't want anybody with such a sense of entitlement on my team.

Go have a terrific career with the Nucks, you brat.

- 77rams

+1

Edit: BTW how do you feel about a player that gets 5 mill a year and"takes it personally" that his name is mentioned in trade rumors, which in turn don't "make him feel wanted'? just curious.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:11 PM ET
I like Bourdon. I think he has a chance to be an NHL regular. I like him better then Gustafsson actually.
- MJL


Only 22, I'm mystified why there is this perception he can't continue to improve with experience. Do I believe he'll ever be an all-star? No, but certainly serviceable and with a reasonable cap hit for the next couple of years.


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:13 PM ET
@D_LEED
@ToddCordell
@sbaickerCSN
@billmeltzer
@TSNBobMcKenzie

off the top of my head

- BulliesPhan87


@BrianHuddle (mainly about major junior hockey, Todd Cordell does it to as well as for the Devils)
@euroflyers
@davegisaac
@David_Strehle
@AnthonyMingioni
@andystrickland
@kausatoday
@dchesnokov
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
@GMillerTSN
@NHLAdamK
@RealKyper
@DownGoesBrown

I know I have more, can't remember them all though.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:14 PM ET
@BrianHuddle (mainly about major junior hockey, Todd Cordell does it to as well as for the Devils)
@euroflyers
@davegisaac
@David_Strehle
@AnthonyMingioni
@andystrickland
@kausatoday
@dchesnokov
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
@GMillerTSN
@NHLAdamK
@RealKyper
@DownGoesBrown

I know I have more, can't remember them all though.

- ob18



Thanks Bullies and OB. I love scooping my non-Twitter friends.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:15 PM ET
+1

Edit: BTW how do you feel about a player that gets 5 mill a year and"takes it personally" that his name is mentioned in trade rumors, which in turn don't "make him feel wanted'? just curious.

- JoeRussomanno


Carter?
Richards?
JvR?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:16 PM ET
+1

Edit: BTW how do you feel about a player that gets 5 mill a year and"takes it personally" that his name is mentioned in trade rumors, which in turn don't "make him feel wanted'? just curious.

- JoeRussomanno


When it is my team he wants to come to and he is a 30+ goal scorer for 4 straight seasons... i love it.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:17 PM ET
Ill take 2


http://shop.aphillyated.c...duct/giroux-tang-clan-tee
flyers420
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
Any recommendations for whom to follow on Twitter for reliable info on Hockey News?

I began to follow Darren Dreger after one of the mod's here posted his Tweet on the Scheen / JVR trade.

- DrMidnite


here are a few

http://twitter.com/euroflyers
http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie
http://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun
http://twitter.com/CraigCustance
http://twitter.com/andystrickland
http://twitter.com/kausatoday
http://twitter.com/wyshynski
http://twitter.com/philabright
http://twitter.com//davegisaac
http://twitter.com/BroadStHockey
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
Carter?
Richards?
JvR?

- 77rams

exactly
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
Carter?
Richards?
JvR?

- 77rams


Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:19 PM ET
Does meszaros, voracek and a pick get it done for bobby ryan?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:20 PM ET
Does meszaros, voracek and a pick get it done for bobby ryan?
- Flyers2821

how many times you gonna spam that gross overpayment?
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