Why should they go out and get one if they already have some? ALso I edited that comment to say if they did get one they'd be fine.
- JoeRussomanno

This is based off the idea that Homer wants to acquire Ryan. I personally would love it if he could steal Ryan from Anaheim but I dont see that happening. I would think that Anaheim would want a decent return. Now am I saying they have to pursue Ryan? No. However, Homer seems to really like the kid and wants to upgrade the 1st line it seems by having interest in both Nash and Ryan. Now will that happen, I dont know.

I'm not asking him to save the world but to be servicable as part of a 3rd pairing.
- stveshdy

Possibly. But he is still an unproven commodity who by all accounts needs to put on some muscle and weight, and has never played close to the amount of games they have in the NHL.

I would love to get him don't get me wrong. But we have to be realistic.

Im still not sure about all this Schultz love, a guy who has never played one minute of pro hockey let alone in the NHL. Has never played an 82 game season and playoffs.

He may turn out to be a stud like everyone says....

But then again....
- MBFlyerfan

The experts cough commenters seem to believe he's good enough to come right in and replace Mezaros, Coburn or Carle if we trade for Ryan....

This is based of the idea that Homer wants to acquire Ryan. I personally would love it if he could steal Ryan from Anaheim but I dont see that happening. I would think that Anaheim would want a decent return. Now am I saying they have to pursue Ryan? No. However, Homer seems to really like the kid and wants to upgrade the 1st line it seems by having interest in both Nash and Ryan. Now will that happen, I dont know.
- stveshdy

How do we know homer wants to pursue him in the First place? All I've seen or heard is pure speculation.

I'm not asking him to save the world but to be servicable as part of a 3rd pairing.
- stveshdy

As I mentioned before, I have no problem with MAB being the 6th d-man on the team if someone off the current top 6 is traded (assuming Carle is resigned). Looking at his ice time during the regular season and that he was active in game 1 against the Pens, I'm pretty sure Lava agrees with my assessment.

How do we know homer wants to pursue him in the First place? All I've seen or heard is pure speculation.
- JoeRussomanno

Nevermind.

Possibly. But he is still an unproven commodity who by all accounts needs to put on some muscle and weight, and has never played close to the amount of games they have in the NHL.

I would love to get him don't get me wrong. But we have to be realistic.
- MBFlyerfan

I think him playing on a 3rd pairing is being realistic, no?

As I mentioned before, I have no problem with MAB being the 6th d-man on the team if someone off the current top 6 is traded (assuming Carle is resigned). Looking at his ice time during the regular season and that he was active in game 1 against the Pens, I'm pretty sure Lava agrees with my assessment.
- ravishingone

Thats a possibility.

He said "Eastern team". Us or the Islanders is my guess.
- canadianpenfan

it'd be awesome if he goes to the Isles, imo

it'd be awesome if he goes to the Isles, imo
- Crimsoninja

Not for them.

Nevermind.
- stveshdy

http://www.ocregister.com...-360414-ducks-murray.html
"I take things personally," Ryan told the newspaper. "Anaheim to me has been a team over the past year that really has shown me nothing to prove that they want me here, unfortunately."
Sounds like a big baby waaaah I'm a good player on a poopty team that might have to unload me for value to improve. Waaaah they paid me 5 mill a year waaaaaah...

I don't have a NTC but people say I'm gonna get traded it hurts my feelings waaaaaah.

This conversation is over you're right never mind.

edit I already don't like this guy.

I would poop bricks if it ended being us

1) Start with the capgeek amount of available open cap space ($11,481,627)
2) Subtract Carle re-signing and call it a $4.75 M cap hit
3) Subtract Voracek re-signing and call it a $3.0 M cap hit
4) Subtract backup goalie and call it an $800,000 cap hit
5) Subtract Bourdon resigning and call it $1M
6) Subtract Sestito re-signing and call it about $650,000

That leaves team with $1,281,627 under the cap -- which they will need to exceed to re-sign Jagr or find a comparable replacement -- before you figure in Pronger's LTIR cap allowance (which would amount to about $3.61 million of usable cap space).
- bmeltzer

Hi Bill,

1. You are assuming they carry Sesisto, Rinaldo and Shelley. If they sign another forward, someone must go. Also, I don't think they can carry all three similar players. Sestito or Shelley is in the minors.

2. Obviously you have Prongers included, but that will come off.

3. You are excluding the cap bonus cushion. Probably not a bad assumption but it might provide some cushion.

5. You have two backup d-man. Could start Bourdon in the minors if need be.

Thats a possibility.
- stveshdy

I think it makes the most sense, his cap hit will be under $1 million. I thought he played pretty well in a tough situation basically being the 2nd pairing with Carle most of the season. I think he will continue to get better and be a serviceable d-man for a long time. A homegrown Flyers d-man, what a novel concept.

I think him playing on a 3rd pairing is being realistic, no?
- stveshdy

It could be. But it is also just as realistic to say that he might get beaten up by the schedule, quickness and size of the NHL game and its players.

It is especially tough and rare to see a defenseman make the jump from college to the NHL. Yes, it has happened before, but it is rare for a reason.

What scares me about his are reports that he will only sign with a team that guarantees him an NHL roster spot. And for the 3 plus million cap hit he is likely to get, that is sure a big chance to take on a guy who has never played a PRO game.

As I said, I love for the Flyers to sign a guy with his kind of pedigree, but I would be leery of him taking a roster spot at that kind of money then end up in the press box for stretches of the season.

History tells us the chances of that happening are more likely than him stepping right in and playing a full NHL season.

I just think we need some perspective...on A LOT of these players whose names are being tossed around.

I don't believe Lou would be willing to trade Parise's rights to Pittsburgh and help them out. I could see if anything he would trade the rights to Minnesota. Not saying this means Parise would sign would the Wild just because they got the rights.

I would be surprised if the Flyers landed Ryan. They can't trade another player who just signed a long extension to stay with the team so Coburn won't be going anywhere. Anaheim would need Schenn or Couturier in the deal and I can't see that happening either.

I believe there will be lots of discussion about trying to bring in Shane Doan, providing he does not resign with Phoenix.

I think Luke Schenn will elevate and develop his game with the Flyers. I think the team can have him work with Terry Murray, Derian Hatcher, and even Chris Pronger to grow his game. He will likely be better served away from the Toronto spotlight and can just be a piece of the Flyers defensive corps- he might even be a 3rd pairing guy provided they re-sign Carle.

It could be. But it is also just as realistic to say that he might get beaten up by the schedule, quickness and size of the NHL game and its players.

It is especially tough and rare to see a defenseman make the jump from college to the NHL. Yes, it has happened before, but it is rare for a reason.

What scares me about his are reports that he will only sign with a team that guarantees him an NHL roster spot. And for the 3 plus million cap hit he is likely to get, that is sure a big chance to take on a guy who has never played a PRO game.

As I said, I love for the Flyers to sign a guy with his kind of pedigree, but I would be leery of him taking a roster spot at that kind of money then end up in the press box for stretches of the season.

History tells us the chances of that happening are more likely than him stepping right in and playing a full NHL season.

I just think we need some perspective...on A LOT of these players whose names are being tossed around.
- MBFlyerfan

Will find out but teams are all after this kid so they must think he's ready to play.

Will find out but teams are all after this kid so they must think he's ready to play.
- stveshdy

Well, even if he isn't RIGHT NOW, he still looks to have tons of potential, and any team should try to sign him.

I think it makes the most sense, his cap hit will be under $1 million. I thought he played pretty well in a tough situation basically being the 2nd pairing with Carle most of the season. I think he will continue to get better and be a serviceable d-man for a long time. A homegrown Flyers d-man, what a novel concept.
- ravishingone

I have my doubts that they even get Ryan at this point. I honestly believe Anaheim wants Schenn or Couturier and the Flyers are not trading either player.

if the flyers were willing to take a bit of a chance, I'd think about Chris Stewart. don't know why his game has suffered in STL, but the ability is there...also friends w/ simmonds.

Not for them.
- canadianpenfan

?

Well, even if he isn't RIGHT NOW, he still looks to have tons of potential, and any team should try to sign him.
- MBFlyerfan

I dont think a team is signing him to play in the AHL. The favorite for his services is probably a team in Canada anyways.

if the flyers were willing to take a bit of a chance, I'd think about Chris Stewart. don't know why his game has suffered in STL, but the ability is there...also friends w/ simmonds.
- isaiah520

They would have to trade for him. Not sure what that price would be.

I have my doubts that they even get Ryan at this point. I honestly believe Anaheim wants Schenn or Couturier and the Flyers are not trading either player.
- stveshdy

I agree with you Schenn and Coots are untouchable. However, I think they are going to bring in another winger for G and it won't be Jagr. I'm just not so sure who it will be. However, no later then July 2nd do I feel this mystery will be solved.