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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:20 PM ET
The poster said not to move Mez b/c of his shot unless you can find another player who can bring it. Well Garrison does that.
- stveshdy

There's no guarantee you can sign him either. In fact he's kinda hinted at going to Vancouver last I heard...
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:22 PM ET
I look forward to new characters for the rivalry, October 18th will be must see TV.

I like Ray, he certainly gave Staal a very good contract offer. As a Flyers fan, I can't say that I'm that upset about him being in Carolina with his brother.

- ravishingone



Yea sad to see him go but fully understand why he wanted to. I'll reserve judgement until Monday to see how we'll replace him but I'm optimistic.

Carolina is getting a really great player and we got cap space and maybe a better 3rd line center for this team +. Good trade all around.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:22 PM ET
I look forward to new characters for the rivalry, October 18th will be must see TV.

I like Ray, he certainly gave Staal a very good contract offer. As a Flyers fan, I can't say that I'm that upset about him being in Carolina with his brother.

- ravishingone



And then not again until February.

Da fuq!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:23 PM ET
And then not again until February.

Da fuq!

- MBFlyerfan

That's allright Crosby and Malkin can run up numbers on the rest of the league and we can get our bulkload of the games when Squid's Conky starts up
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:24 PM ET
There's no guarantee you can sign him either. In fact he's kinda hinted at going to Vancouver last I heard...
- JoeRussomanno


Never said it was a guarantee. Just suggested the Flyers make a play for him on the market.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:26 PM ET
And then not again until February.

Da fuq!

- MBFlyerfan



I know right? That's a messed up schedule.

Near the end of the year we play you 3 times and the Rags 2 or 3 times over like a 9 game stretch.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:27 PM ET
Never said it was a guarantee. Just suggested the Flyers make a play for him on the market.
- stveshdy

That's fine but some of you guys act like depleting our D to get Ryan or whatever fantasy winger we perceive can easily be replaced through Free agency and that's just not the case.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:28 PM ET
That's fine but some of you guys act like depleting our D to get Ryan or whatever fantasy winger we perceive can easily be replaced through Free agency and that's just not the case.
- JoeRussomanno


They can add 5/6th defenseman through free agency. Not that hard imo.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:28 PM ET
They can add 5/6th defenseman through free agency. Not that hard imo.
- stveshdy

Mezaros is a 5th/ 6th defenseman?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:29 PM ET
Yea sad to see him go but fully understand why he wanted to. I'll reserve judgement until Monday to see how we'll replace him but I'm optimistic.

Carolina is getting a really great player and we got cap space and maybe a better 3rd line center for this team +. Good trade all around.

- canadianpenfan


Under the circumstances, I thought Ray did a great job on the trade. I think Jordan can be close to an 80 pt or even a little better player in Carolina. I think the Michalek trade is a calculated gamble. I understand the need to gain cap space, but there really isn't a lot of options in free agency to upgrade the d position. Maybe Ray can trade a couple of his 6 d prospects for someone already on an NHL roster. I doubt there was a lot of interest for Martin, I thought maybe they would have tried to move Orpik before Michalek.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:29 PM ET
Mezaros is a 5th/ 6th defenseman?
- JoeRussomanno


Once again I never said he was.

Timonen-Carle
Schenn-Coburn
Grossmann- Free Agent

I would like Schultz but that seems like a long shot.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
Under the circumstances, I thought Ray did a great job on the trade. I think Jordan can be close to an 80 pt or even a little better player in Carolina. I think the Michalek trade is a calculated gamble. I understand the need to gain cap space, but there really isn't a lot of options in free agency to upgrade the d position. Maybe Ray can trade a couple of his 6 d prospects for someone already on an NHL roster. I doubt there was a lot of interest for Martin, I thought maybe they would have tried to move Orpik before Michalek.
- ravishingone



It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with. I bet the Penguins are the culprit in Ek's new blog.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
Once again I never said he was.

Timonen-Carle
Schenn-Coburn
Grossmann- Free Agent

- stveshdy

Once again we are trading away premium talent to replesnish with- Free Agent. As in we don't know who that would be. The fact that the 5/6 defensemen have been a problem over the years I'd say we better have our ducks in a row before we start shipping off players we need for those we don't i.e 8 more points.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
Once again we are trading away premium talent to replesnish with- Free Agent. As in we don't know who that would be. The fact that the 5/6 defensemen have been a problem over the years I'd say we better have our ducks in a row before we start shipping off players we need for those we don't i.e 8 more points.
- JoeRussomanno


Okay thats your opinion. I think if the Flyers got a Schultz, Garrison, Salvador, etc they would be fine defensively.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
Okay thats your opinion. I think if the Flyers got a Schultz, Garrison, Salvador, etc they would be fine defensively.
- stveshdy

There's no guarantee they can get any of those.
Edit: if they did yes maybe.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with. I bet the Penguins are the culprit in Ek's new blog.
- canadianpenfan


Poor Ek, wha'ts the old saying "even a blind squirrel eventually finds a nut". In Ek's case, I'm not so sure.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:34 PM ET
Poor Ek, wha'ts the old saying "even a blind squirrel eventually finds a nut". In Ek's case, I'm not so sure.
- ravishingone

I thought he was supposed to be putting some thing out at 5
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:36 PM ET
There's no guarantee they can get any of those.
- JoeRussomanno


So your telling me they cant find any quality free agent defenseman available? Doesnt have to be one of those players. There are plenty of 5/6 defenseman out there. There are other teams in the league and some that actually win a cup with defenseman that arent just name guys. Have to find a player that fits into what your trying to do.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:36 PM ET
I thought he was supposed to be putting some thing out at 5
- JoeRussomanno



He just did. He's saying the Penguins are trying to trade for Parise and Suter's rights. He just doesn't say "Penguins".
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:37 PM ET
Okay thats your opinion. I think if the Flyers got a Schultz, Garrison, Salvador, etc they would be fine defensively.
- stveshdy


Im still not sure about all this Schultz love, a guy who has never played one minute of pro hockey let alone in the NHL. Has never played an 82 game season and playoffs.

He may turn out to be a stud like everyone says....

But then again....
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 25 @ 7:37 PM ET
He just did. He's saying the Penguins are trying to trade for Parise and Suter's rights. He just doesn't say "Penguins".
- canadianpenfan

I say the Wild
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:37 PM ET
So your telling me they cant find any quality free agent defenseman available? Doesnt have to be one of those players. There are plenty of 5/6 defenseman out there. There are other teams in the league and some that actually win a cup with defenseman that arent just name guys.
- stveshdy

Why should they go out and get one if they already have some? ALso I edited that comment to say if they did get one they'd be fine.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:38 PM ET
He just did. He's saying the Penguins are trying to trade for Parise and Suter's rights. He just doesn't say "Penguins".
- canadianpenfan

Thanks for saving me the clicks
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:38 PM ET
Im still not sure about all this Schultz love, a guy who has never played one minute of pro hockey let alone in the NHL. Has never played an 82 game season and playoffs.

He may turn out to be a stud like everyone says....

But then again....

- MBFlyerfan


I'm not asking him to save the world but to be servicable as part of a 3rd pairing.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:39 PM ET
I say the Wild
- Deasr1



He said "Eastern team". Us or the Islanders is my guess.
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