I like Carter. If we only traded one of the two last offseason I would keep Carter.
- stveshdy

Not me I'd take Richards over carter every day of the week and twice on Sundays

That shot cost them the game.....shot it right into his chest. He makes the shot and who knows what happens game seven.....a shame he did that for someone else
- Philly1980

That year was wild. We really had no business being in the Cup Finals. Just goes to show you that everything needs to go right to win a Cup.

Absolutely. You heard the same song with Carter that you hear with Carle. ALL of Carter's blocked shots turn into a odd man rush, or a goal against. Same with Carle's shots that are blocked. With all being emphasized.
- MJL

If Carle can eliminate say 10 turnovers a year, he'd be that much better. That's nothing out of the realm of possibility. Also how much of these turnover's are actually on him? I'd say 5-10 of them are due to him not being comfortable with his other Dman and then rookie forwards being out of position.

One thing he gets ragged on about that cracks me up is his "cupcake shot" and what is so funny is that shot has led to some nice rebounds which then in turn become big goals. Also his willingness to stay here for under-market value is rare trait in Athletes today and there's something to be said for that.

Not me I'd take Richards over carter every day of the week and twice on Sundays
- flyerscup2011

I'm sure you have your reasons why. Nothing wrong picking Richards over Carter. I just like Carter better.

His price tag could be higher than what you want to pay. I wouldn't mind adding Doan but I say lets meet in the middle at three years.
- stveshdy

If it's sub-four I can live with it. We paid 40 year old jagr 3 and 1/2 I don't see why something like 3.9 for 3/4 years would be so bad for a guy that fills a need for the immediate and foreseeable future. Hell give him a limited NTC too just to sweeten it. Every team can use a guy like him.

Not me I'd take Richards over carter every day of the week and twice on Sundays
- flyerscup2011

agreed

That year was wild. We really had no business being in the Cup Finals. Just goes to show you that everything needs to go right to win a Cup.
- NickTheKid87

Actually we were picked to goto the cup at the beginning of the year....

If it's sub-four I can live with it. We paid 40 year old jagr 3 and 1/2 I don't see why something like 3.9 for 3/4 years would be so bad for a guy that fills a need for the immediate and foreseeable future. Hell give him a limited NTC too just to sweeten it. Every team can use a guy like him.
- JoeRussomanno

Not sure 3.9 gets it done. I agree he is an asset to add. He plays with a lot of heart and determination. Very good player. Imagine if he played with some talented forwards.

So if the "rumored" deal was done, and you resign Carle for 5 (but heard 4.5) and Jagr for 3... and Voracek for 3.5. And counting Schenn at 3.1, then the total cap hit would be 68.87 and that includes our extras.

Take away 1.5 from Schenn, and 1.5 from the extra extras, and hope for the deal from Carle, and your talking 65.37 million. Almost 4 million in cap Space to get a decent d-man.

I'm sure you have your reasons why. Nothing wrong picking Richards over Carter. I just like Carter better.
- stveshdy

I've just always have liked Richards' game and his desire to win is second to none

So if the "rumored" deal was done, and you resign Carle for 5 (but heard 4.5) and Jagr for 3... and Voracek for 3.5. And counting Schenn at 3.1, then the total cap hit would be 68.87 and that includes our extras.

Take away 1.5 from Schenn, and 1.5 from the extra extras, and hope for the deal from Carle, and your talking 65.37 million. Almost 4 million in cap Space to get a decent d-man.
- RooNosHockey

Salvador for 2.5

I'm sure you have your reasons why. Nothing wrong picking Richards over Carter. I just like Carter better.
- stveshdy

I heard Richards likes being over Carter

So if the "rumored" deal was done, and you resign Carle for 5 (but heard 4.5) and Jagr for 3... and Voracek for 3.5. And counting Schenn at 3.1, then the total cap hit would be 68.87 and that includes our extras.

Take away 1.5 from Schenn, and 1.5 from the extra extras, and hope for the deal from Carle, and your talking 65.37 million. Almost 4 million in cap Space to get a decent d-man.
- RooNosHockey

Nothing against what you posted but I want nothing to do with Jagr anymore. The Flyers have younger players who will take on bigger roles next year. Would rather add a 4th line center who can win faceoffs and kill penalties with that Jagr money.

I'd pop a huge Doaner if Shane came here.

Not sure 3.9 gets it done. I agree he is an asset to add. He plays with a lot of heart and determination. Very good player. Imagine if he played with some talented forwards.
- stveshdy

His last hit was 4.5 I can't see how an aging player with some however lightly, faded skills keeps his current pay or more. Yes if he was on a team like the Flyers, I can't see how he doesn't keep putting up 20+ a year.

Hearing on TSN that there were issues between schenn and phaneuf last year....

I've just always have liked Richards' game and his desire to win is second to none
- flyerscup2011

I'm not a fan of Richards at all. Never liked his game much and thought he was highly overrated. Obviously hes a good player. Carter and Richards are both solid at both ends of the ice but I just think Carter was a more skilled an talented player.

I'd pop a huge Doaner if Shane came here.
- Deasr1

That's a player that most certainly would have helped in the devils series.

His last hit was 4.5 I can't see how an aging player with some however lightly, faded skills keeps his current pay or more. Yes if he was on a team like the Flyers, I can't see how he doesn't keep putting up 20+ a year.
- JoeRussomanno

I like Doan but I think Phoenix has to keep their captain.

That shot cost them the game.....shot it right into his chest. He makes the shot and who knows what happens game seven.....a shame he did that for someone else
- Philly1980

The shot hit Niemi in the mask after being deflected by Campbell.

Nothing against what you posted but I want nothing to do with Jagr anymore. The Flyers have younger players who will take on bigger roles next year. Would rather add a 4th line center who can win faceoffs and kill penalties with that Jagr money.
- stveshdy

I agree......It was a fun year, but he can move on now.

The shot hit Niemi in the mask after being deflected by Campbell.
- MJL

it was going to hit him regardless of deflection....it was a minor deflection.

Hearing on TSN that there were issues between schenn and phaneuf last year....
- Philly1980

As Hartnell so politely put, "Suck it Phaneuf!"

I like Doan but I think Phoenix has to keep their captain.
- stveshdy

I never thought he would leave but not being extended yet tells me there's a hangup with that contract or he wants to test the water.

I'm not a fan of Richards at all. Never liked his game much and thought he was highly overrated. Obviously hes a good player. Carter and Richards are both solid at both ends of the ice but I just think Carter was a more skilled an talented player.
- stveshdy

I agree that carts was more skilled/talented. But I prefer heart over talent