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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:53 PM ET
That seems to be the consensus, at least among Bill and a few others. One I happen to agree with as well.
- MBFlyerfan


if one of the categories is "high and wide" then yeah -- but I think i'd rather have Ryan than Carter.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
i don't buy it one bit either.
- wilsonecho91

I wonder what the Wombat has heard.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Manayunk Mike ‏@ManayunkMike

SOURCE: #Flyers have offered Meszaros, Read, and a 1st round pick in 2013 to #Ducks for Bobby Ryan. So far, no deal. Talks ongoing.



Effing INSANE if this is even close to being true.

- MBFlyerfan


that's ridiculous if true.....wayyyy too much.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Exactly. You want Ryan your going to have to pay for him. Hes a proven 30 goal scorer in this league. I'm not saying the Flyers need to make the move but his value is much better than what hes getting credit for imo.
- stveshdy


If Clarke convinces Mr. Snyder that we need Ryan, then Ryan it is. Homer couches the move by saying the Schenn trade was all part of it from the beginning after he jettisons Mezzy/Coburn and a first and a second (thrown in just because Homer hates 2nd rounders).

Schenn takes Mezzy's'Coburn's place, Ryan takes JvR's place. Neat and tidy, and we only lose about 400k in cap space (rough estimate).
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
We don't know for a fact that, that specific offer was made.
- MJL


I like Ryan a lot but that is too much. I would offer Mez/1st/younger prospect. Thats just me (not that ANYONE has to agree).
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Manayunk Mike ‏@ManayunkMike

SOURCE: #Flyers have offered Meszaros, Read, and a 1st round pick in 2013 to #Ducks for Bobby Ryan. So far, no deal. Talks ongoing.



Effing INSANE if this is even close to being true.

- MBFlyerfan


how reliable is this manyunk mike?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
if one of the categories is "high and wide" then yeah -- but I think i'd rather have Ryan than Carter.
- flyersfan51


derp!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
I like Ryan a lot but that is too much. I would offer Mez/1st/younger prospect. Thats just me (not that ANYONE has to agree).
- stveshdy

Marked down in Book of Martyrs under "famous quotes of"
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
If Clarke convinces Mr. Snyder that we need Ryan, then Ryan it is. Homer couches the move by saying the Schenn trade was all part of it from the beginning after he jettisons Mezzy/Coburn and a first and a second (thrown in just because Homer hates 2nd rounders).

Schenn takes Mezzy's'Coburn's place, Ryan takes JvR's place. Neat and tidy, and we only lose about 400k in cap space (rough estimate).

- 77rams


Will see what happens but I think the Flyers like Ryan a lot.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Between Giroux's current salary $3.75, and Briere's salary $6.5 (if he retires)... We should be able to sign him.

Stamkos $7.5
Crosby $8.7
Malkin $8.7

- leon neon


Crosby will be closer to $10m when he gets extended. Same goes for Malkin.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Manayunk Mike ‏@ManayunkMike

SOURCE: #Flyers have offered Meszaros, Read, and a 1st round pick in 2013 to #Ducks for Bobby Ryan. So far, no deal. Talks ongoing.



Effing INSANE if this is even close to being true.

- MBFlyerfan


Consider the source. Then wad up and toss into the proper receptacle.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Marked down in Book of Martyrs under "famous quotes of"
- JoeRussomanno


Just stating my opinion.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
that's ridiculous if true.....wayyyy too much.
- flyersfan51


Terrible deal but I do, however, think we all treat Read as if he is a 20 year old. How much more upside does he have?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
how reliable is this manyunk mike?
- flyersfan51




like choosing this thing to drive the ALCAN highway
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Terrible deal but I do, however, think we all treat Read as if he is a 20 year old. How much more upside does he have?
- NickTheKid87


I'd book him for 20+ goals each year..... no?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Manayunk Mike ‏@ManayunkMike

SOURCE: #Flyers have offered Meszaros, Read, and a 1st round pick in 2013 to #Ducks for Bobby Ryan. So far, no deal. Talks ongoing.



Effing INSANE if this is even close to being true.

- MBFlyerfan


I also think this is over-payment. Drop read or the First, and I'm ok.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET


like choosing this thing to drive the ALCAN highway

- wilsonecho91


gotcha.....so it's basically like I posted it on Twitter.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Terrible deal but I do, however, think we all treat Read as if he is a 20 year old. How much more upside does he have?
- NickTheKid87

With him it's not about how much better he can get. It's about how good he is now with that cap hit. Exceptional two player that can fill in on any line with very frugal cap hit.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
I also think this is over-payment. Drop read or the First, and I'm ok.
- RooNosHockey


I'd rather drop Read and add a second.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
With him it's not about how much better he can get. It's about how good he is now with that cap hit. Exceptional two player that can fill in on any line with very frugal cap hit.
- JoeRussomanno


agreed
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
Just stating my opinion.
- stveshdy

next time your in the library look for this one.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
Between Giroux's current salary $3.75, and Briere's salary $6.5 (if he retires)... We should be able to sign him.

Stamkos $7.5
Crosby $8.7
Malkin $8.7

- leon neon


Actually Timmo's $6.3 (comes off the cap) can go towards Giroux. Then Briere's toward others the following year.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
With him it's not about how much better he can get. It's about how good he is now with that cap hit. Exceptional two player that can fill in on any line with very frugal cap hit.
- JoeRussomanno


Good point. But if you can get a really good player for him than I'm not opposed. Not saying Bobby Ryan but anybody.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:03 PM ET
I also think this is over-payment. Drop read or the First, and I'm ok.
- RooNosHockey


Im not for two reasons, the first and losing a solid d-man.

Now if Mezzy ends up being hurt and in and out of the lineup all season I may view it differently down the line. But you cant think like that.

I would love to believe that Homer is reading this rumor and laughing his ass off. Lets just hope he isn't riding his bike in Avalon when he DOES see it.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:04 PM ET
Terrible deal but I do, however, think we all treat Read as if he is a 20 year old. How much more upside does he have?
- NickTheKid87


Perhaps not much, but 24G and 23A and a plus 13 is a pretty good return for someone making 900k a year.
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