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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
i read somewhere that I will not go look up, that Wednesday is when the bidding can begin.
- phi1671


Someone tweeted that overnight or this morning.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
I believe I posted a video of him making a great play similar to the one the other guy did. But that's okay grass is greener in Anaheim.
- JoeRussomanno


I dont have to agree with you about Voracek. Thanks.

Same in Toronto now that we got schooled in that trade to (get plus back for JvR).
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
Someone tweeted that overnight or this morning.
- Scoob



thanks Scoob...i saw it somewhere...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
1) All of it counts over the summer
2) Capgeek said on twitter that they have different info than Dreger and the impossible-to-reach bonuses only applied in the first year of the contract. So I don't know which one is correct -- Dreger or Capgeek.

- bmeltzer



Bill, Schenn is on an EL deal which is two way. He counts in proportion to the number of days spent on the roster the previous Season.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:39 PM ET


no Roo you look it up so another question(s) can be asked....

- phi1671


Seriously....

aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
I was going more on signing big name free agents. Misunderstood.
- stveshdy




Oh yea yea sorry.....


side note: I dont see Parise here. All things equal money-wise, I don't think philly stacks up for him.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:40 PM ET
I dont have to agree with you about Voracek. Thanks.

Same in Toronto now that we got schooled in that trade to (get plus back for JvR).

- stveshdy

No you don't have to agree with the fact I posted a video of Voracek making an equally impressive play that's fine. As far as the Toronto trade I'm reserving my judgement on that one and I've already said Homer took a calculated risk.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:40 PM ET
Oh yea yea sorry.....


side note: I dont see Parise here. All things equal money-wise, I don't think philly stacks up for him.

- aosplayo


The Flyers could sign him but would have to move some salary imo. Thats even if he would come here in the first place.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:41 PM ET
I already know the answer. And I already know that Voracek has enough scoring ability to be a scoring line Winger.
- MJL



Way to go MJL, you rose another level...
Great hockey knowledge but no bed side manner.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:43 PM ET
i read somewhere that I will not go look up, that Wednesday is when the bidding can begin. Leight: but cannot sign until July 1st.
- phi1671

It was yesterday, I think because Anaheim's rights expired when the draft was over. And can't sign til 7/1 (which makes no sense to me, but I guess it doesn't have to).
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
Seriously....


- RooNosHockey



Yeah really....
then to quote i know the answer, amazing.

time to go or i will get banned.

someone needs to reach out to cap geek or someone who has knowledge to put this Schenn's stuff to rest.

Bill,
Maybe you can put in a call to one of your sources if you want too to help put an end to it.


Have a good Monday everyone...
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
Why not???


FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Matt Carle ($4.250m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mike Commodore ($1.500m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.875m)
------

SALARY CAP: $70,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $69,346,194;
BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $953,806
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
I already know the answer. And I already know that Voracek has enough scoring ability to be a scoring line Winger.
- MJL


I said he would be on the second line, as a support winger. That is my projection. To have him on a line with Giroux is redundant.

BTW here is a question for you. How many Flyers had Career years in Goals and Points last year, including first year players?

Do you expect all of them to duplicate their career performance?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
It was yesterday, I think because Anaheim's rights expired when the draft was over. And can't sign til 7/1 (which makes no sense to me, but I guess it doesn't have to).
- bodiva88



thanks Bo...
I appreciate it...

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
Way to go MJL, you rose another level...
Great hockey knowledge but no bed side manner.

- phi1671

This is hockeybuzz, not doctorbuzz. We don't need no stinking bedside manners.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:46 PM ET
Why not???


FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Matt Carle ($4.250m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mike Commodore ($1.500m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.875m)
------

SALARY CAP: $70,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $69,346,194;
BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $953,806

- Jimmygrazz


Really?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:47 PM ET
I said he would be on the second line, as a support winger. That is my projection. To have him on a line with Giroux is redundant.

BTW here is a question for you. How many Flyers had Career years in Goals and Points last year, including first year players?

Do you expect all of them to duplicate their career performance?

- RooNosHockey



Second line is still a scoring line. No I wouldn't expect all of the players to repeat and match career high numbers. There is bound to be someone who slumps. Still doesn't mean that Voracek doesn't have scoring line ability. Or that he has zero finishing ability.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:49 PM ET
This is hockeybuzz, not doctorbuzz. We don't need no stinking bedside manners.
- BulliesPhan87


Shall we change the name to HockeyQuestion?

All questions, no answers.....

I know the answer.... But I'm not telling. nany nany nany.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:52 PM ET
Bobby Ryan stats:

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:53 PM ET
Roberto Luongo is reportedly not willing to waive his no-trade clause to head to Toronto or Chicago. That could change, but if it doesn't, that might tie the Vancouver Canucks hands. The Toronto Maple Leafs are believed to be the team most interested in Luongo's services. At the same time, if this report is true, then it should greatly increase the odds that the Leafs are going to attempt to bolster their goaltending through the free agent market.
Source: Aaron Portzline on Twitter
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:53 PM ET
Why not???


FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Matt Carle ($4.250m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mike Commodore ($1.500m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.875m)
------

SALARY CAP: $70,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $69,346,194;
BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $953,806

- Jimmygrazz


forget commodor keep guss there then
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
Why not???


FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)

Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)

Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m)

Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Matt Carle ($4.250m)

Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mike Commodore ($1.500m)

Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.875m)
------

SALARY CAP: $70,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $69,346,194;
BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $953,806

- Jimmygrazz


Giroux only makes 3.75?? He's going to get a huge raise.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
Shall we change the name to HockeyQuestion?

All questions, no answers.....

I know the answer.... But I'm not telling. nany nany nany.

- RooNosHockey

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:54 PM ET
Bobby Ryan stats:


- Philly1980

He got 8 more points last year than Jake did, and he wasn't playing on our top line all year. So 8 more points is worth Voracek+Coburn/mezaros+draft pick?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:55 PM ET
Giroux only makes 3.75?? He's going to get a huge raise.
- flyersfan51


I'm sure Homer will offer a 10 year contract when the time comes. He is the franchise at this point.
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