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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
To clarify, does this mean that the Flyers won't have to count his $3 million against the summer cap?
- LeachHextall27


In Dreger's (old) report, yes.

CapGeek has a conflicting take on the contract.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
K cuz I don't.

Edit: FWIW he was good not great. The Flyers kept everything to the perimeter for him through 90% of the montreal series. Their Shot totals weren't exactly staggering and they are hardly offensively gifted that year. So he did what was asked off him but when Montreal turned up the heat he was mediocre against a mediocre offense.

I've yet to see Bryzgalov be mediocre against a mediocre offense in the playoffs. Even the Devils of this year were leaps and bounds ahead of that team.

- JoeRussomanno


Your like wikipedia.joerussomanno.org

That same Montreal team that knocked out the #1 Caps and #4 Pens as an 8 seed? Once again everyone else did great but Leighton, got it!
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
Annie, I was surprised he was still only 22, it seems the Leafs treated him oddly this year considering his stage of development. I promise to be nice to him (I don't boo anyone but the really bad guy visitors and maybe a ref or two). And hitting will make him popular here, unless there is need for a new whipping boy. With Carle likely to remain, I believe he's safe.
- bodiva88

Agree. Carle, with a fat new deal will have the target. Plus, Schenn fights and hits. There are a few that don't like it that Matty doesn't fight and isn't a big hitter. Ya see, dey like like der D men to be ruff and tumble.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
I'm not so sure about that. Who would want to come here and sign a long term deal? Track record is that you will be traded..
- Jimmygrazz




True, but you're getting that money guaranteed, so even though you might get flipped for something else, you're getting paid. Thats probably why none of the players have dissed Holmgren when they left, cause they got contracts that maybe other organizations wouldn't have given them.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
Your like wikipedia.joerussomanno.org

That same Montreal team that knocked out the #1 Caps and #4 Pens as an 8 seed? Once again everyone else did great but Leighton, got it!

- stveshdy

YOur like Putwordsinyourmouthshdy.com

That's not what I said at all. The Flyers got an ideal matchup in that series. Did Leighton knockout those teams? No he didn't so it's got nothing to do with him. In fact we'll never know how he would matched up to those other teams because he didn't play them. That Montreal team reminded me a bit of this year's Rangers team if anything and I think we can mostly agree they matched up better with some teams then they did others.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:31 PM ET
Absolutely Voracek has the scoring ability to be a scoring Winger. Take a look around the League. Tell me how many teams had 4 Wingers who each scored more then 18 goals?
- MJL


You look it up.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:31 PM ET
True, but you're getting that money guaranteed, so even though you might get flipped for something else, you're getting paid. Thats probably why none of the players have dissed Holmgren when they left, cause they got contracts that maybe other organizations wouldn't have given them.
- aosplayo


Most top free agents have NTC/NMC in there deals.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:32 PM ET
YOur like Putwordsinyourmouthshdy.com

That's not what I said at all. The Flyers got an ideal matchup in that series. Did Leighton knockout those teams? No he didn't so it's got nothing to do with him. In fact we'll never know how he would matched up to those other teams because he didn't play them. That Montreal team reminded me a bit of this year's Rangers team if anything and I think we can mostly agree they matched up better with some teams then they did others.

- JoeRussomanno



Okay.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:32 PM ET
Please get him Homer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYTjm5yxzi8

- flyersfan51


reminded me of barry sanders on skates (growing up BS was my absolute hero, so me saying that speaks volumes)
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:33 PM ET
reminded me of barry sanders on skates (growing up BS was my absolute hero, so me saying that speaks volumes)
- flyerscup2011

Funny thing is we have guys on this team who do that too.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:33 PM ET
any justin schultz news, or do we have to wait til july 1?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:33 PM ET
You look it up.
- RooNosHockey





no Roo you look it up so another question(s) can be asked....
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
any justin schultz news, or do we have to wait til july 1?
- flyerscup2011


Can negotiate but cant sign til July 1st.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
Funny thing is we have guys on this team who do that too.
- JoeRussomanno


who other than g?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
any justin schultz news, or do we have to wait til july 1?
- flyerscup2011



i read somewhere that I will not go look up, that Wednesday is when the bidding can begin. Leight: but cannot sign until July 1st.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
Can negotiate but cant sign til July 1st.
- stveshdy


but that doesn't stop news from leaking out? right? or must it be hush hush til july 1?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
who other than g?
- flyerscup2011

Okay nvm, i see what the issue is here.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
who other than g?
- flyerscup2011


Voracek. Hes due this year.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
i read somewhere that I will not go look up, that Wednesday is when the bidding can begin. Leight: but cannot sign until July 1st.
- phi1671


bidding began today, signing can not be official to july 1
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
Most top free agents have NTC/NMC in there deals.
- stveshdy




Also included in 2 of the 3 players contracts I think? Only reason JVR didnt have one was he was too young? The Flyers take care of their guys, other players in the league know this. Yea you could get traded, but you're getting compensated somehow
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:36 PM ET
but that doesn't stop news from leaking out? right? or must it be hush hush til july 1?
- flyerscup2011


I guess the deal can be done but not officially until July 1st.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:36 PM ET
reminded me of barry sanders on skates (growing up BS was my absolute hero, so me saying that speaks volumes)
- flyerscup2011


kid's got it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:36 PM ET
Voracek. Hes due this year.
- stveshdy

I believe I posted a video of him making a great play similar to the one the other guy did. But that's okay grass is greener in Anaheim.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:36 PM ET
You look it up.
- RooNosHockey



I already know the answer. And I already know that Voracek has enough scoring ability to be a scoring line Winger.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
Also included in 2 of the 3 players contracts I think? Only reason JVR didnt have one was he was too young? The Flyers take care of their guys, other players in the league know this. Yea you could get traded, but you're getting compensated somehow
- aosplayo


I was going more on signing big name free agents. Misunderstood.
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