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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
The Isles taking seven "D" men in this draft shows you what they thought of the organizational depth at the position. I think lots of people on these boards drastically overrate many of the "prospects" this team has on defense. Outside of de Haan, Donovan and Mayfield, I don't think the Isles really thought they had any sure-fire contributors on "D" at the NHL Level. I read that Pedan had a terrible year last season. They obviously don't feel too strongly about Wishart or Katic. Ness is real small and despite all his skill, he may never make it since he's small and not a physical player.

I'm psyched about Reinhart. I loved that selection after Murray was gone. With all the depth at forward, they needed to go heavy on "D". Plus, I love that the "D" they drafted are mostly big kids, not a bunch of Ness-sized mites that are incapable of hitting or moving anyone. It was a good draft only magnified by the trade for Visnovski.

- Jethro09



very much agree with this....

the thing id say to those people who whine about drafting only defense is as EVERYONE knows, defensemen take longer to develop which works twofold; 1) they are more of an unknown when they are younger IE now at draft day, and therefore might have A LOT more to grow and 2) they take longer to develop so stockpile as many as possible and get to work on the dmen.

people can always find a reason to complain, to whine that they took all defensemen is ridiculous simply because had they taken a forward in the last few rounds he would have ZERO impact on the islanders this coming year so why get bent out of shape.

for the reasons posted above, i applaud the picks simply because of the defensemen-known theory...might as well throw (pick) as many defensemen against the wall and see which stick....very happy the way friday went (especially with my boy reinhart!!)
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:42 AM ET
now all we need is defensemen B.Allen & forward A.Semin
an a scrappy winger


oh forgot a trade for B.Ryan also
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
i also think people on these boards over rate size...unless the guy is 5'6 size size isn't an issue
- NYI78



i totally disagree and would go even further and say a team cant have enough size....look at previous playoff teams and tell me which have done well and advanced with smaller teams (i havent even looked but would be willing to bet the overwhelming majority of teams were BIG)
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
i totally disagree and would go even further and say a team cant have enough size....look at previous playoff teams and tell me which have done well and advanced with smaller teams (i havent even looked but would be willing to bet the overwhelming majority of teams were BIG)
- LetsGoIsles


Yep. Look what happens when we play the bruins. Men vs Boys
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
Why is everyon do eager to trade de haan? He played amazing when he was up here(for a rookie). Literally no mistakes, +1 (on a third pairing whose partner was probably -34 for the year), even looked good on the power play. I wanna keep him
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
Yep. Look what happens when we play the bruins. Men vs Boys
- Isles316

agreed
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
Why is everyon do eager to trade de haan? He played amazing when he was up here(for a rookie). Literally no mistakes, +1 (on a third pairing whose partner was probably -34 for the year), even looked good on the power play. I wanna keep him
- Danformo



i would tweak your comment a little...i dont think everyone is "eager" to trade him but more they would be "willing" to trade him if the return is worth trading him...seems like most people here want a "big" trade, in order for that to happen, you gotta give to get.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:17 AM ET
very much agree with this....

the thing id say to those people who whine about drafting only defense is as EVERYONE knows, defensemen take longer to develop which works twofold; 1) they are more of an unknown when they are younger IE now at draft day, and therefore might have A LOT more to grow and 2) they take longer to develop so stockpile as many as possible and get to work on the dmen.

people can always find a reason to complain, to whine that they took all defensemen is ridiculous simply because had they taken a forward in the last few rounds he would have ZERO impact on the islanders this coming year so why get bent out of shape.

for the reasons posted above, i applaud the picks simply because of the defensemen-known theory...might as well throw (pick) as many defensemen against the wall and see which stick....very happy the way friday went (especially with my boy reinhart!!)

- LetsGoIsles





XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
Yep. Look what happens when we play the bruins. Men vs Boys
- Isles316



The Bruins skill vs our lack of.. had nothing to do with it?

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
Why is everyon do eager to trade de haan? He played amazing when he was up here(for a rookie). Literally no mistakes, +1 (on a third pairing whose partner was probably -34 for the year), even looked good on the power play. I wanna keep him
- Danformo



I Dont want to see him traded, unless its in a deal for a top 2 D-men. We may have added all these prospects but none of them are ready & is. Just because we added 7 prospects doesn't make him expendable. Until those prospects are ready to play in the NHL... Calvin shouldnt be moved.

XxNYIxX
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
I Dont want to see him traded, unless its in a deal for a top 2 D-men. We may have added all these prospects but none of them are ready & is. Just because we added 7 prospects doesn't make him expendable. Until those prospects are ready to play in the NHL... Calvin shouldnt be moved.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


I'm really interested to see dehaan and donovan get a shot this year. I think both of them would be a great upgrade over last season's defense, however having both of them in the lineup at the same time could make things a little rougher on Nabby. I'd rather see them make mistakes and develop than see Eaton/Jurcina back though.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
Why is everyon do eager to trade de haan? He played amazing when he was up here(for a rookie). Literally no mistakes, +1 (on a third pairing whose partner was probably -34 for the year), even looked good on the power play. I wanna keep him
- Danformo



wait....youre talking about 1 game???

im not saying trade the kid necessarily, but to make a judgement based on a single game....
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'm really interested to see dehaan and donovan get a shot this year. I think both of them would be a great upgrade over last season's defense, however having both of them in the lineup at the same time could make things a little rougher on Nabby. I'd rather see them make mistakes and develop than see Eaton/Jurcina back though.
- Isles_since_6



I dont see how this D could be any worse then what we saw last year... Id rather see young hungry kids.. then that cluster f&*k we saw back there this season.

XxNYIxX
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
I dont see how this D could be any worse then what we saw last year... Id rather see young hungry kids.. then that cluster f&*k we saw back there this season.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


if it's gonna look like a gong show it may as well be with the kids playing. No point in having them sit in the ahl...unless of course they're going to be played on the fourth line with useless scrap pieces for 2 minutes a game like Nino did.

at some point we should see improvement, right?
JamieS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leafs in the winter, Jays in t, ON
Joined: 12.01.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:57 AM ET
http://www.bluejacketsxtr...ered-all-their-picks.html Islanders are lucky Columbus didn't accept, jesus that's a lot of picks.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
if it's gonna look like a gong show it may as well be with the kids playing. No point in having them sit in the ahl...unless of course they're going to be played on the fourth line with useless scrap pieces for 2 minutes a game like Nino did.

at some point we should see improvement, right?

- Isles_since_6



In spite of ourselfs, we have to!

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
http://www.bluejacketsxtra.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2012/06/isles-offered-all-their-picks.html Islanders are lucky Columbus didn't accept, jesus that's a lot of picks.
- JamieS



Cant say Garth isnt trying

XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
The Bruins skill vs our lack of.. had nothing to do with it?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I agree with that BUT the Bruins physically man handled the Isles.
JamieS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leafs in the winter, Jays in t, ON
Joined: 12.01.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:01 PM ET
Cant say Garth isnt trying

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I like Reinhart better than Murray too, I think that's just rediculous; for both sides. Islanders to offer and Columbus to not accept
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
I like Reinhart better than Murray too, I think that's just rediculous; for both sides. Islanders to offer and Columbus to not accept
- JamieS


It is pretty funny
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:04 PM ET
I dont see how this D could be any worse then what we saw last year... Id rather see young hungry kids.. then that cluster f&*k we saw back there this season.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

hungry kids in the Dzone can lead to another cluster f@ck. They need to add another veteran top four. If Snow wants to insert someone they think deserves a shot(DeHaan, Donovan, etc..) that's fine but adding one more top four would be huge.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:05 PM ET
I like Reinhart better than Murray too, I think that's just rediculous; for both sides. Islanders to offer and Columbus to not accept
- JamieS



BEYOND ridiculous for Columbus not to accept that. And if really true, Garth needs his head examined. More so than normal.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:05 PM ET
BEYOND ridiculous for Columbus not to accept that. And if really true, Garth needs his head examined. More so than normal.
- Mancalledsting

mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:07 PM ET
BEYOND ridiculous for Columbus not to accept that. And if really true, Garth needs his head examined. More so than normal.
- Mancalledsting

How does Columbus not accept this? And why didn't he then try with Edmonton. I call BS on this
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jun 25 @ 12:07 PM ET
I agree but we watched larger players steam roll over our smaller/weaker guys. Unfortunately size does matter(that's what she said!).
- Cptmjl



if you have a defense of guys who are between 6 feet and 6'2 with one big guy your fine..problem is we have had 5'8 dmen who are 175 soaking wet
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